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This is pretty wild if true. I mean, I would (and did) expect turds like Manfart et al all day long, but Kushner?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/25/the-investigation-of-jared-kushner-fits-a-very-troubling-pattern/?utm_term=.0a8a80a7dcf3

Dude is literally responsible for everything in the WH Policy Agenda other than the friggin menu.

 

Yeah, his family got caught a few weeks ago marketing essentially Trump influence and 'super immigration' in China, but I guess it's much deeper than that.

 

Forget law and everything else, if Kooch is on the outs (Thank you, Steve Bannon), that is simply put Trump's #1 crutch. Trump only trusts him and Ivanka.

 

Crazy.

 

Related: Find "Bannon's War" on PBS-Frontline.

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Maybe Ivanka dumps him and marries Dennis Rodman.

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Criminal like his daddy is / was

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Another leak that no one on the left cares about. I wonder if there was even a FISA on this one. Lord knows how many people Obama spied on

Another leak where you worry more about the leak than the actual news of it.

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Just like DNC emails :lol:

The DNC emails where we worried about debate questions and press and party preferring Hillary. Yeah...that's comparable to a criminal investigation of the President and his advisors.

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The DNC emails where we worried about debate questions and press and party preferring Hillary. Yeah...that's comparable to a criminal investigation of the President and his advisors.

The Democratic process was torpedoed with Hillary and the DNC. Also revealed was some Pay for Play with the Clinton State Department.

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The Democratic process was torpedoed with Hillary and the DNC. Also revealed was some Pay for Play with the Clinton State Department.

The process of a private org that can basically do what they want.

Now you worry about the democratic process? But not in the general election right?

 

Pay for play? Link?

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Another leak that no one on the left cares about. I wonder if there was even a FISA on this one. Lord knows how many people Obama spied on

I care a lot more about this crooked administrations dealings with our enemy. Leaks are coming because his own people hate his guts

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Leaks are coming because he pissed off the IC and the press. And given some of the stories...there is a decent chance some of the leaks are coming from his own people.

 

But leaks don't matter...give whatever info to the Russians...or talk about our subs to another brutal leader he loves.

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I care a lot more about this crooked administrations dealings with our enemy. Leaks are coming because his own people hate his guts

Pissed off the press and IC...and given released info to the Russians and talks about our subs to his other buddy brutal leader...there is a decent chance leaks are coming from his own people.

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Maybe I hold a minority opinion when compared to other moderates, but I think Kushner heavily influencing trump is a good thing for the country.

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Maybe I hold a minority opinion when compared to other moderates, but I think Kushner heavily influencing trump is a good thing for the country.

Beats Bannon...but he may very well be dirty as Fock.

His profile doesn't seem great either. Criminal dad...always had money to buy his way into and out of anything. Seeks the Hollywood like spotlight...and has lots of questionable business dealings/financial ties.

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Maybe I hold a minority opinion when compared to other moderates, but I think Kushner heavily influencing trump is a good thing for the country.

That depends what this investigation finds out. I like Ivanka, so hopefully this Kushner guy is ok. We'll see.

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Their chater says otherwise. DNC is corrupt and doesn't run a fair game.

 

HRC Ukraine Pay to Play - http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT8dWaihZbMMA9hRx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bGhyaDE4BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUM18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1495849687/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mintpressnews.com%2fwikileaks-clinton-foundations-pay-play-ukraine-oligarch-show-support-coup%2f222011%2f/RK=1/RS=pEhhCoTGHSJFZJwZ2DQwGsLCLWc-

 

HRC deal with Iraqis - http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT8dWaihZbMMA.BRx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bnRrcG50BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUM18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1495849687/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.inquisitr.com%2f3754341%2fwikileaks-news-clinton-pay-to-play-for-port-canaveral-deal%2f/RK=1/RS=URI3CM1KR1vERfrEW2Qa2VsMDmg-

 

HRC Morroco Pay to Play - http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT8dWaihZbMMA.hRx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0Z2t0bDJvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM1BHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUM18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1495849687/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.inquisitr.com%2f3629007%2fwikileaks-clinton-morocco-pay-to-play-scheme-is-quintessential-clinton-controversy%2f/RK=1/RS=5jkbDi7Jsf6qkS7_6yJf3lfip8w-

 

1st one seems pretty weak. We already support Ukraine by policy in the US (well...we did...lessening or attempting to lessen that during this admin).

Meeting with Bill...who has no power other than being supportive of something. Guy donated money to the Clinton Foundation which did work training Ukrainian leaders. Whats the issue here? They gained no favor in the government by this at all...just access to a former president who supports their pro Ukrained policy.

 

2nd? Haha...wow...what a gigantic reach that is. Lots of these guys may be connected and so on. JFC you will believe anything.

 

3rd. So...Morocco wanted to give to the foundation if she made an appearance at a foundation meeting. Thats it? Thats the issue? Please tell me you have more than that...holy .

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Gotta give it to the media. The amount of fake news they have made up that perfectly fits within known facts is amazing.

 

 

Jared Kushner and Russias ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trumps transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.

 

Ambassador Sergei Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-ambassador-told-moscow-that-kushner-wanted-secret-communications-channel-with-kremlin/2017/05/26/520a14b4-422d-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.92de1168c321

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No worries...perfectly legit reasons to try and set up back channels of communications and lie about contacts and all that.

Nothing to see here it's fine...it's all fine.

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No worries...perfectly legit reasons to try and set up back channels of communications and lie about contacts and all that.

Nothing to see here it's fine...it's all fine.

I'm paraphrasing someone else's thought I read...

 

But is it accurate to call this "back channels"?.... Or is it more accurate to call this "conspiring to work with Russia's government with the goal being to keep secrets from the US government"?

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Kushner, Khrushchev... Pretty easy to make the connections. Next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.

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This is good news. The faster Kushner is out of the WH the better. Let Bannon do his thing.

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I swear, this whole administration just seems like one big Jenga.

Every day, one more block gets pulled out and exposed - and what remains is even shakier and more unstable.

 

I mean, I'm sure it's been said before, BUT as far as I could tell, when you cut through the BS,

HRC's biggest sin was apparently keeping some confidential chit on a server that 'could' be hacked by whomever.

In this case, we know actual confidential shiit WAS given or at least that active, intentional and overt attempts were made to do so - and circumvent / controvert existing security protocols.

 

But, back to Jenga; I mean, at a certain point, you'd have to think one of these guys is just going to blow the whole thing up -

either to save his own skin and/or bc Trump has proven to be such a disloyal, mean-spirited, egomaniacal, incompetent boss.

 

...Which is ironic given his reality show.

 

I mean, enough already. Smoke, fire, etc.

 

The cast of characters is interesting: Is it Pence itching to rule, Bannon shiit-canning Jared and/or the IC getting back at Trump? Probably all of the above - and then some.

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Yeah, Hillary's only sin was the server. Not the gigantic wealth she was able to attain while being a government employee. Lol.

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Yeah, Hillary's only sin was the server. Not the gigantic wealth she was able to attain while being a government employee. Lol.

I'm just going by what your boy Gowdy was losing his mind over and you guys couldn't get enough of.

 

Or, was it the paedo pizza parlor?

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Ya know, the one thing Trumpco has been able to hang on to is

"there was no / is no evidence of collusion with the Russians!"

 

This blows that right out of the water.

I mean, obviously, this is the very definition of collusion.

 

Add in that it was less than 46 hours ago that Kushner was saying he'd be happy to talk to anybody about anything -

this breaks - and it's absolute radio silence.

 

One thing to bear in mind as this proceeds;

The lame ass argument that the FoxTrump crew (and was repeated here) tried to throw out was

"the Russian investigation is still going on, so there CAN'T be obstruction! "

Um, no. It's like bribery, the mere act of attempting to obstruct is obstruction. Doesn't matter the outcome.

 

Similarly, in this case, Kush could have been planning a birthday party for Obama -

Doesn't matter WHAT they were discussing. Actively working with the Russians in attempting to subvert/get around existing, legitimate communication channels that would be subject to review - is collusion.

 

What really taints the election is that - Kush would have been legitimately talking to the Russians in a matter of weeks anyway.

Yet, he tried to set up a back-channel communication system PRIOR to the election? Why?

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From the Reuters article....more fake news...

 

FBI investigators are examining whether Russians suggested to Kushner or other Trump aides that relaxing economic sanctions would allow Russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to Trump, said the current U.S. law enforcement official.

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I swear, this whole administration just seems like one big Jenga.

Every day, one more block gets pulled out and exposed - and what remains is even shakier and more unstable.

 

I mean, I'm sure it's been said before, BUT as far as I could tell, when you cut through the BS,

HRC's biggest sin was apparently keeping some confidential chit on a server that 'could' be hacked by whomever.

In this case, we know actual confidential shiit WAS given or at least that active, intentional and overt attempts were made to do so - and circumvent / controvert existing security protocols.

 

But, back to Jenga; I mean, at a certain point, you'd have to think one of these guys is just going to blow the whole thing up -

either to save his own skin and/or bc Trump has proven to be such a disloyal, mean-spirited, egomaniacal, incompetent boss.

 

...Which is ironic given his reality show.

 

I mean, enough already. Smoke, fire, etc.

 

The cast of characters is interesting: Is it Pence itching to rule, Bannon shiit-canning Jared and/or the IC getting back at Trump? Probably all of the above - and

So hood then some.

So you're sucking yourself and the meat sammich?

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So the Russians made an offer? That's considered evidence now? You need the person getting the offer to do something, it's how it works.

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So the Russians made an offer? That's considered evidence now? You need the person getting the offer to do something, it's how it works.

No you don't actually. That has been explained to you a few times already. The fact that the Russians were in a position to make an offer via previously undisclosed contacts with them by Kushner is problem enough. You have to ask yourself why it is the Kush would want to set up back-channel communications when in a few weeks you can speak to them all he wanted. But he wanted to do so off the Record prior to the election. That certainly doesn't smell good.

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So the Russians made an offer? That's considered evidence now? You need the person getting the offer to do something, it's how it works.

You apparently misread the reports.

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You apparently misread the reports.

if it's not on Fox news or Breitbart, that idiot won't even consider it.

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No you don't actually. That has been explained to you a few times already. The fact that the Russians were in a position to make an offer via previously undisclosed contacts with them by Kushner is problem enough. You have to ask yourself why it is the Kush would want to set up back-channel communications when in a few weeks you can speak to them all he wanted. But he wanted to do so off the Record prior to the election. That certainly doesn't smell good.

Not just back channel to keep it out of the press...but apparently using Russian equipment to keep it away from any possible watchful eyes of either country's intelligence services.

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/26/reuterswashington-post-publish-evidence-of-obama-spying-on-trump-campaign-and-unmasking-americans/#more-133381

 

 

Reuters/Washington Post Puts a Slice of Kushner Cheese on Russian Nothingburger and simultaneously prove the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign.

 

The extent of the U.S. medias straw-grasping is boundless, but this one is going to backfire. HOPEFULLY. For the most recent example consider the Washington Post and Reuters claiming President Trumps son-in-law Jared Kushner participating in a proposal to set up a back-channel with Russia for communication after the November 8th election.

 

Firstly, Reuters and The Washington Post are idiots in their claimed exclusive bombast, etc. UPI reported on the nothingburger back-channel Russian construct on April 3rd. This breaking news is old news, and old nothingburger news at that.

 

Of course President-elect Trumps staff would consider a back-channel set up for communications with Russian government officials in November and December 2016, just about everyone with a tinge of common sense was saying that exact construct was needed.

 

 

 

Why?

 

Well, you must remember the atmosphere after the November 8th election during the time period being discussed. President Obama, in close coordination with his U.S. media allies, was filling the airwaves with toxic anti-Russian narratives in an explicit attempt to make any structural positive relationship between the pending Trump administration and Russia impossible.

 

 

[ALSO Insert your memory card for CIA Director John Brennans recent timeline of his Russian contacts as related to congress here] Watch from 10:30 to around 15:00 (prompted):

 

 

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Eventually, to give some optical reasoning for the conspiracy theme, this entire fiasco known as the muh Russian conspiracy led to President Obama sanctioning Russia and kicking 35 Russian diplomats out of the U.S. Though in the past five months not a single shred of evidence showing what Russia ever did to interfere in the election has ever surfaced.

 

Allow me to provide an example: If youve ever heard the term Russia hacked the election, ask yourself (or others): what exactly did Russia hack? {{{crickets}}} The assertion is a catch-phrase soundbite, albeit a ridiculously silly one at that.

 

Even within John Brennans most recent testimony to congress, he couldnt outline a single relevant example of factual interference; he only explained possibilities and various scenarios of concern the intelligence community were certain existed, but the certainty only goes as far as their concern not the factual evidence. The intelligence community was most certainly concerned.

 

To provide cover for the December 29th Russian Sanctions (which was actually a necessary narrative construct by President Obama), the intelligence community published a Joint Analysis Report put together by the CIA (Brennan), ODNI (Clapper), FBI (Comey) and NSA (Mike Rogers) Reminder HERE

 

The report noted the NSA (Rogers) did not have the same degree of confidence in the content as Brennan, Clapper and Comey. Notice, not coincidentally, that Brennan, Clapper and Comey are gone and Mike Rogers is still running the NSA.

 

The Joint Analysis Report was widely rebuked by almost everyone who looked at it. Again, remember the conclusion of the report was that RT (Russian TV) was promoting propaganda, and there were Russian profile social media accounts pushing anti-Clinton memes on the internet. THATS IT. Reminder:

 

obama_netneutrality

 

The Russian Malicious Cyber Activity Joint Analysis Report (full pdf below) is pure nonsense. It outlines nothing more than vague and disingenuous typical hacking activity that is no more substantive than any other hacking report on any other foreign actor.

 

This might as well be a report blaming Nigerian fraud phone solicitors for targeting U.S. phone numbers. DUH! Just because your grandma didnt actually win that Nigerian national lottery doesnt mean the Nigerian Mafioso are targeting your employer to hold you accountable for her portion of the bill.

 

This FBI report is, well, quite simply, pure horse-pucky.

 

However, what the report does well is using ridiculous technical terminology to describe innocuous common activity. Example: ATPT29 is Olaf, the round faced chubby guy probably working from his kitchen table; and ATPT28 is his unemployed socially isolated buddy living in Moms basement down the street.

 

This paragraph is priceless in its humorous and disengenuous gobblespeak:

 

Both groups have historically targeted government organizations, think tanks, universities, and corporations around the world. APT29 has been observed crafting targeted spearphishing campaigns leveraging web links to a malicious dropper; once executed, the code delivers Remote Access Tools (RATs) and evades detection using a range of techniques.

 

APT28 is known for leveraging domains that closely mimic those of targeted organizations and tricking potential victims into entering legitimate credentials. APT28 actors relied heavily on shortened URLs in their spearphishing email campaigns. Once APT28 and APT29 have access to victims, both groups exfiltrate and analyze information to gain intelligence value.

 

These groups use this information to craft highly targeted spearphishing campaigns. These actors set up operational infrastructure to obfuscate their source infrastructure, host domains and malware for targeting organizations, establish command and control nodes, and harvest credentials and other valuable information from their targets.

 

(*note the emphasis I placed in the quote) All that nonsense is saying is a general explanation for how hacking, any hacking, is generally carried out. This entire FBI report is nothing more than a generalized, albeit techno-worded, explanation for how Nigerians, Indians, or in this case Russians, attempt to gain your email passwords etc., nothing more. (read report)

 

Again, for emphasis: Thats the source evidence of the JAR for the vast Russian conspiracy: Russian TV news and social media bots pushing frog memes interfered with the 2016 U.S. election result. Thats their conclusion.

 

Yes, thats the entire final analysis within the report that led to the expulsion of 35 Russian unimportant nobody diplomats all created to push a narrative, and only created to push a narrative. The goal of the narrative was to undermine the election results and paint the upcoming Trump administration into a corner as it related to Russia and Vladimir Putin.

 

Thats the backdrop for the earlier April UPI story (link here) and thats the environment created by President Obama where the Trump Transition team was considering a back-channel way to talk to the Russians without all of the Obama-Manufactured-Anxiety causing friction.

 

 

 

And here is todays slice of Kushner Cheese for the Nothingburger. NOTE THE DISCLAIMER customarily pushed way down into the weeds of the article:

 

REUTERS [] After the Nov. 8 election, Kushner and Flynn also discussed with Kislyak the idea of creating a back channel between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could have bypassed diplomats and intelligence agencies, two of the sources said. Reuters was unable to determine how those discussions were conducted or exactly when they took place.

 

Reuters was first to report last week that a proposal for a back channel was discussed between Flynn and Kislyak as Trump prepared to take office. The Washington Post was first to report on Friday that Kushner participated in that conversation.

 

[] FBI scrutiny of Kushner began when intelligence reports of Flynns contacts with Russians included mentions of U.S. citizens, whose names were redacted because of U.S. privacy laws. This prompted [FBI/Comey] investigators to ask U.S. intelligence agencies to reveal the names of the Americans, the current U.S. law enforcement official said.

 

Kushners was one of the names that was revealed, the official said, prompting a closer look at the presidents son-in-laws dealings with Kislyak and other Russians.

 

FBI investigators are examining whether Russians suggested to Kushner or other Trump aides that relaxing economic sanctions would allow Russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to Trump, said the current U.S. law enforcement official.

 

The head of Russian state-owned Vnesheconombank, Sergei Nikolaevich Gorkov, a trained intelligence officer whom Putin appointed, met Kushner at Trump Tower in December. The bank is under U.S. sanctions and was implicated in a 2015 espionage case in which one of its New York executives pleaded guilty to spying and was jailed.

 

The bank said in a statement in March that it had met with Kushner along with other representatives of U.S. banks and business as part of preparing a new corporate strategy.

 

Officials familiar with intelligence on contacts between the Russians and Trump advisers said that so far they have not seen evidence of any wrongdoing or collusion between the Trump camp and the Kremlin. Moreover, they said, nothing found so far indicates that Trump authorized, or was even aware of, the contacts.

 

There may not have been anything improper about the contacts, the current law enforcement official stressed. (link)

 

Pay attention to this part: [] FBI scrutiny of Kushner began when intelligence reports of Flynns contacts with Russians included mentions of U.S. citizens, whose names were redacted because of U.S. privacy laws. This prompted [FBI/Comey] investigators to ask U.S. intelligence agencies to reveal the names of the Americans, the current U.S. law enforcement official said.

 

Reflect back on CIA Director John Brennans testimony to congress and reread that paragraph broken into two parts and combined with the Brennan testimony:

 

.FBI scrutiny of Kushner began when intelligence reports of Flynns contacts with Russians included mentions of U.S. citizens, whose names were redacted because of U.S. privacy laws.

 

Thats exactly what Director Brennan said happened. The CIA intercepted the communications around the Russian officials attempting to gain access to the Trump circle because no-one in the Russian government knew anything about Trumps positions.

 

This prompted [FBI/Comey] investigators to ask U.S. intelligence agencies to reveal the names of the Americans, the current U.S. law enforcement official said

 

That is also what Brennan said. Brennan said he gave the raw intelligence to the FBI (James Comey) and to the White House (Susan Rice) and it was then out of his hands. The FBI (Comey) then asked the NSA (Rogers) to reveal the names. Brennan then briefed the gang-of-eight in congress.

 

Additionally, if Jared Kushner -as the WaPo claims- discussed setting up a secret channel of communication with Kysliak in December 2016 then common sense would tell you they didnt have one prior to the election on Nov 8th. {{poof}} there goes the vast Russian conspiracy.

 

Aside from proving the Obama administration was specifically using James Comey to spy on the Trump campaign So what if team Trump, or Candidate Trump, or President-Elect Trump, wanted a way to talk privately with representatives of the Russian government? Thats politics. Thats the same for every country, not just exclusive to Russia.

 

If anything the fact that President Obamas political intelligence gathering operatives were spying on the Trump campaign to identify such communication, and then unmasking them to the political opposition, is evidence of the need for such communication channels.

 

What this Reuters and Washington Post story actually does is prove the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign. Thats the explosive angle to the story.

 

Its not the nothingburger report that Jared or anyone else was trying to set up communication lines that matters the real story is Reuters and the Washington Post proving that Obama was spying on conversations about setting up those lines of communication.

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Ahh the conservative treehouse...:lol:

more detailed, reliable, factual then the nyt and Washington post could ever dream of being.

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