Anyone know of a good mock auction draft?

[phillyjinx 21]

Trying to find a site where people don't drop out after the first 30 picks.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

In an auction? It's not awesome but I never really had that issue in yahoo. Sometimes some would bid 150 bucks on Tim Tebow...but not really much issue with dropping out.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I'd never mock an auction, no point since it's based on personal value of the players drafting. Makes no sense to mock it.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

The best luck I've had was just doing live drafts on ESPN and Yahoo. It seemed that was the only way to have a draft where people stayed the whole time. You you don't mind doing a simulated mock then I suggest downloading the Draft Dominator app. It's $5 but well worth it. It allows you to put in your leagues draft and scoring settings which is great. It can also be used for your live draft. When done drafting you can see your team ratings too.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

I'd never mock an auction, no point since it's based on personal value of the players drafting. Makes no sense to mock it.

 

It makes no sense making this comment. I couldn't disagree more with you. If you do multiple mocks you get a good sense of what player values are. This isn't all that important since all that matters is what you have set for your own player values.

 

The biggest reason for doing a mock for auctions is to practice dealing with multiple situations and trying different strategies. There is WAY more strategy to auction drafts than there is snake drafts so you have to know what you're doing. You want to know what to do when things aren't going the way you planned.

 

If you've done a bunch of mock drafts you can feel much more comfortable in your real draft when you get a sense of what direction it's going. Auction drafts can be very chaotic and if you're not prepared then you're setting yourself up for failure.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Have my first auction this year. Time to look up old threads with some advice.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Anyone have a set of auction bylaws they could link?

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

Anyone have a set of auction bylaws they could link?

 

Did you already have your draft or is it still coming up?

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

 

Did you already have your draft or is it still coming up?

Still a ways off. Not until the weekend before kickoff. My commish is experienced in auction so he will have most of the rules hammered out, but I want another set to compare to. He hasn't posted them yet so I was just hoping to get a jump on understanding exactly how the process is going to work. I have found general how auction leagues work but no specific set of rules.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

In my main league we have a little different set of rules. We do a 12 team draft with 16 player rosters. We each get $100 to draft 10 players and you must have enough for those 10. Once everyone has their 10 players bought we take a break before we start a snake draft for the remaining 6 roster spots. This helps speed it up a little since the remaining players are generally depth players, kickers and defenses.

 

This is by far my favorite league and I fly from Iowa to Houston every year to visit my brother and do this live draft.

[giraldi02 470]

Trying to find a site where people don't drop out after the first 30 picks.

 

Honestly, the only way you're going to accurately get a mock auction that can successfully identify cost, particularly the later players, is going to be by joining a free league draft and doing it that way.

 

 

Have my first auction this year. Time to look up old threads with some advice.

 

Create a spending plan per position based on percentage of the cap. Additionally, always, ALWAYS keep track of how much the competition has to spend. In the last four roster spots of my team, I try to aim for having a top 3 amount of money left in the bank. There's nothing worse than sitting at the tail end of the draft with $5 left and 4 roster spots to fill.

 

Additionally, a great redraft auction strategy is: Get people spending boatloads of money early on substandard players and players hinting at a dropoff in performance.

 

Adrian Peterson is someone that I would nominate early and hope the price gets bumped up immensely. His name recognition is going to make him expensive, and if the majority of owners are unfamiliar with cost allocation for positions, they might break the bank trying to get him.

 

Nominate a guy like Gostkowski early too. People will spend $3-6 on him. That might not seem like a big deal, but later in the draft when you have a dollar more than they can spend, it could be the difference that lands you the sleeper WR like Rishard Matthews

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

 

Honestly, the only way you're going to accurately get a mock auction that can successfully identify cost, particularly the later players, is going to be by joining a free league draft and doing it that way.

 

 

 

Create a spending plan per position based on percentage of the cap. Additionally, always, ALWAYS keep track of how much the competition has to spend. In the last four roster spots of my team, I try to aim for having a top 3 amount of money left in the bank. There's nothing worse than sitting at the tail end of the draft with $5 left and 4 roster spots to fill.

 

Additionally, a great redraft auction strategy is: Get people spending boatloads of money early on substandard players and players hinting at a dropoff in performance.

 

Adrian Peterson is someone that I would nominate early and hope the price gets bumped up immensely. His name recognition is going to make him expensive, and if the majority of owners are unfamiliar with cost allocation for positions, they might break the bank trying to get him.

 

Nominate a guy like Gostkowski early too. People will spend $3-6 on him. That might not seem like a big deal, but later in the draft when you have a dollar more than they can spend, it could be the difference that lands you the sleeper WR like Rishard Matthews

 

I agreed with most of what you said other than what I put in bold. The worst thing you can do is be at the end of the draft and have too much money left. Having money left over or spending $5 on a guy that could probably go for $1 or $2 means you drafted poorly in my mind.

 

If you only have $5 left for your last 4 roster spots that's just fine. At that point in the draft you should only be bidding on guys that are only worth $1. Should be players like your K, DST, back up QB, back up TE or very deep RBs and WRs.

 

It only sucks if you fill your roster up early and have to sit there and wait until you can get those $1 guys but if your team is loaded you can just sit back and relax while the rest stress out. Enjoy a beer.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

I completely understand that studs win ships and a bunch of depth and solid guys won't win one, but how many "studs" bust every year? As of now I am thinking of getting 1 first round quality guy and then hoping another slips through the cracks a little.

 

This goes against the advice from the fftoday article Art of the Auction or whatever it's called. That proposes a spend for 3 studs then build the rest of the roster with cheap depth. That's all and we'll if you can identify three studs who aren't going to bust while they also aren't bid up by someone else. I feel pretty confident in finding quality through players going in the 3-7 round range.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

I completely understand that studs win ships and a bunch of depth and solid guys won't win one, but how many "studs" bust every year? As of now I am thinking of getting 1 first round quality guy and then hoping another slips through the cracks a little.

 

This goes against the advice from the fftoday article Art of the Auction or whatever it's called. That proposes a spend for 3 studs then build the rest of the roster with cheap depth. That's all and we'll if you can identify three studs who aren't going to bust while they also aren't bid up by someone else. I feel pretty confident in finding quality through players going in the 3-7 round range.

 

One year I only really spent on one stud, the rest of the money got spent on value picks. I ended up have a team full of decent players but none that really stood above the rest. What drove me crazy was trying to decide which players to start since I had about 5 WRs that were equal. It seemed like I always picked the wrong guys. I was hoping I'd be able to trade some of them but no one really wanted them since the league was saturated with average WRs.

 

I still ended up with a decent team and I think I won my money back but it was one of the most frustrating seasons because I had to struggle on who to start each week. I'd rather have a team full of obvious starters with some players that have some upside and can fill in on bye weeks for my bench.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

 

One year I only really spent on one stud, the rest of the money got spent on value picks. I ended up have a team full of decent players but none that really stood above the rest. What drove me crazy was trying to decide which players to start since I had about 5 WRs that were equal. It seemed like I always picked the wrong guys. I was hoping I'd be able to trade some of them but no one really wanted them since the league was saturated with average WRs.

 

I still ended up with a decent team and I think I won my money back but it was one of the most frustrating seasons because I had to struggle on who to start each week. I'd rather have a team full of obvious starters with some players that have some upside and can fill in on bye weeks for my bench.

Oh yeah I completely agree. I meant that I feel I can find the guys in rounds 3-7 who can move up near the top two tiers of receivers. Because last year if a person were to grab Dez, AJ Green, and Leveon Bell somehow, their season was toast.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Played in a 2 QB auction last year that I won with Cousins and Fitzpatrick for a few dollars each.

[giraldi02 470]

I don't advocate having an exorbitant amount of money left by any means. Yes there's a fine line, and yes you have to be familiar with what you're willing to spend. But again, having four spots left where you're strapped for cash is going to ensure that you don't get some of your guys.

 

I prefer a tiered approach personally. I like having 5/4/3/2 for my final four guys. That's only 14 bucks for four positions. In a 200 dollar cap, that's only 7% of your allocated budget.

As it pertains to spending the last dollars on the kicker, defense, backups: I nominate kickers and defenses early in order to get a potential rube to bid them up, even if it's just by a dollar. I want my roster to already have my $1 kicker and defense long before I get into the final rounds.

 

The final nominations in an auction are drastically different than the tail-end rounds of snake drafts. Cloak and dagger is a key component to my nomination process. I want those sleepers to not get nominated early so I can limit the number of franchises that are bidding on them.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

I don't advocate having an exorbitant amount of money left by any means. Yes there's a fine line, and yes you have to be familiar with what you're willing to spend. But again, having four spots left where you're strapped for cash is going to ensure that you don't get some of your guys.

 

I prefer a tiered approach personally. I like having 5/4/3/2 for my final four guys. That's only 14 bucks for four positions. In a 200 dollar cap, that's only 7% of your allocated budget.

 

As it pertains to spending the last dollars on the kicker, defense, backups: I nominate kickers and defenses early in order to get a potential rube to bid them up, even if it's just by a dollar. I want my roster to already have my $1 kicker and defense long before I get into the final rounds.

 

The final nominations in an auction are drastically different than the tail-end rounds of snake drafts. Cloak and dagger is a key component to my nomination process. I want those sleepers to not get nominated early so I can limit the number of franchises that are bidding on them.

 

Very true. My league is $100 so it's rare to have much money left over at the end.

 

One year I had $15 left over with only one pick left. Spent it all on Bernard just so I didn't have and money left over but I was pissed when I finished with that much left. What makes it so bad is that you keep thinking of all the players you could've had if you just spent a few more dollars instead of being cheap.

 

If there are certain players that you really want you might as well get them even if it means overspending a little. You don't want to be kicking yourself all season.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

Oh yeah I completely agree. I meant that I feel I can find the guys in rounds 3-7 who can move up near the top two tiers of receivers. Because last year if a person were to grab Dez, AJ Green, and Leveon Bell somehow, their season was toast.

 

Last year in a snake draft I went Luck, Nelson and Jeffery with my first 3 picks. Nelson missed the season, Luck missed most and was bad when he did play and Jeffery missed a lot of the season but was at least really good when he did play. Worst luck I've ever had drafting.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

 

Last year in a snake draft I went Luck, Nelson and Jeffery with my first 3 picks. Nelson missed the season, Luck missed most and was bad when he did play and Jeffery missed a lot of the season but was at least really good when he did play. Worst luck I've ever had drafting.

On one team I had

 

Luck

Charles, Bell

Dez, Nelson

 

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

On one team I had

 

Luck

Charles, Bell

Dez, Nelson

 

 

That's just purely crap luck.

[tanatastic 2,061]

On one team I had

 

Luck

Charles, Bell

Dez, Nelson

 

Im surprised the league even bothered to play it out. Should have just handed you the title after the draft with a team like that. Real football always gets in the way of fake football.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Im surprised the league even bothered to play it out. Should have just handed you the title after the draft with a team like that. Real football always gets in the way of fake football.

Its was a dynasty. Made a lot of moves to make that team including 3 firsts for Dez. So I decided to trade off Dez and Charles. Well to be fair I did trade Charles before his all tear like the week before. Kind of felt bad about it.

 

I actually think my current depth may make my team better this year than the star power could have last year. Though that team is cursed so probably not.

[Ray_T 589]

Still a ways off. Not until the weekend before kickoff. My commish is experienced in auction so he will have most of the rules hammered out, but I want another set to compare to. He hasn't posted them yet so I was just hoping to get a jump on understanding exactly how the process is going to work. I have found general how auction leagues work but no specific set of rules.

There really isnt much to it.

 

if you are involved in the bidding you cannot be the auctioneer.

 

the order is set by the reverse of last years standings.

 

minimum bid is $1. and you must fill out all your roster. so you do need to keep track of what everyones maximum bid is- This is the most challenging part if people are drinking.

 

it is recommended that each player keep track of their own max bid while the commish can keep track of everyones.

 

In my league (because it is a keeper league where we each keep 3 players) auction dollars are assigned based on your place in the final standings.

 

so first place gets $94 2nd place gets $95 (and so on)

 

I think that sums up the majority of the relevant rules.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

Just finished my first mock auction of the year and I really like my team but ended up having money left over. I think I could really put together a great team this year.

 

QB - D. Carr

RB - J. Ajayi

RB - R. Matthews

WR - A. Robinson

WR - A. Cooper

WR - K. Allen

TE - Kelce

K - S. Hauschka

DST - Rams

B - M. Jones

B - M. Gordon

B - Du. Johnson

B - D. Parker

B - K. White

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Ok did my first auction of any kind today

 

Ben

Brady

Charles

Jstew

L Murray

Woodhead

K Allen

Cobb

Hilton

Lockett

Maclin

Decker

Olsen

Eifert

Denver

Gostkowski

 

 

My receivers are weaker than I'd like. I should have had a few better but I was distracted while drafting which caused me to miss a few bids that went past mine. I went after the wait strategy so I could control the draft. It worked until everyone but me had the minimum from $15 or less while I had like $45. I still think I have a very competitive team, but wow did I have a lot left over.

 

Someone said don't spend more than 25% on one player, every top player went for over $55 it seemed with a $200 budget, many going for $60+. I got a deal on Charles for $45 I thought

 

Edit: To add a little more to my observation, if I would have gotten Beckham or brown instead of my top receiver, Allen, that's a difference of about $40, which would have changed what I could have bid on everyone else. I really think I am going to pass on those guys, but aim more for Cooks and Cooper who I think are good values. As much as I'd like one more top receiving option, I still enjoyed being able to own the middle of the draft with whoever I wanted.

[giraldi02 470]

In essence FBN, I liken that auction strategy to having no first round pick in redraft but having multiple 4th, 5th, and 6th rounders. A very nice situation to be in, particularly if as you said, the top tier guys, or first bid guys, are going for well above market value

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

Has anyone been doing many mock auctions lately? I've been able to do a couple in the last two weeks.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Has anyone been doing many mock auctions lately? I've been able to do a couple in the last two weeks.

I did 3 or so this past week. I didn't realize how easy it was to mock auction using Yahoo's ffball app. REALLY easy. I actually like when people join but then leave the mock without turning their team over to auto draft. It means they don't bid on top players but spend more on mid tier guys, giving a more spread approach. I saw guys like Cooks and Cooper going in the $40 range which seemed a bit high. And I haven't seen any people screwing with the drafts yet.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

I did 3 or so this past week. I didn't realize how easy it was to mock auction using Yahoo's ffball app. REALLY easy. I actually like when people join but then leave the mock without turning their team over to auto draft. It means they don't bid on top players but spend more on mid tier guys, giving a more spread approach. I saw guys like Cooks and Cooper going in the $40 range which seemed a bit high. And I haven't seen any people screwing with the drafts yet.

 

I agree. I did a mock a couple weeks ago and most of the people stayed in until the majority of their money was gone then left. It was crazy as there were plenty of deals to be had without the bots bidding up everyone. I really enjoyed it.

[Hawkeye21 1,853]

I've been working on my auction value spreadsheet for a while now and tweaking it as I change my mind on certain players. I've been trying to come up with some possible teams based on the values I have for players and looking at my leagues spending habits. In my league we get $100 to draft 10 players and no minimum/maximum position as long as I draft 10 players. So I could spend it all on RBs if I wanted to. After the auction we snake draft the other 6 spots on our teams. I'm thinking of loading up on stud WRs this year and came up with this.

 

QB Matt Ryan

RB Carlos Hyde

RB Duke Johnson

RB Theo Riddick

RB Gio Bernard

WR Antonio Brown

WR Julio Jones

WR Keenan Allan

WR Willie Sneed

TE Julius Thomas

 

It may seem crazy but it is possible based on the auction values I have right now. Depending on how the draft went certain players may need to be swapped for others. Would you be happy with this start to a team in a half point PPR though? Starting rosters are 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1RB/WR/TE, 1K and 1DST so I can start up to 4 WRs if I want to.