Line up Help & Trade feelings?

[bauman88 0]

First the trade I made.

 

I gave up Alexander and Mason for S. Smith, J. Walker and L. Jordan. Seems crazy on the surface, but I really needed to shore up my WR corp. What do you guys think? I think Alexander is due for a huge drop in numbers and Gore/Taylor will finish higher than him by year end. The drop will be because of the increased passing with Branch and the rest of the WR and the fact that the O-line is in distress with Hutchinson leaving and now Pork Chop gone.

 

My WR/RBs before were:

 

Alexander

Gore

C. Taylor

D. Williams

R. Williams

R. Moss

L. Evans

D. Mason

Colston

 

Now

Gore

C. Taylor

D. Williams

L. Jordan

S. Smith

R. Moss

J. Walker

R. Williams

L. Evans

Colston

 

Which way was I better off?

 

Which 3 WRs and 2 Rbs should I start?

[Vertical Smiles 0]

Your trade may work out in the end if Gore keeps producing, but I don't agree that Alexander's numbers will decline. Two reasons, the addition of Branch makes them extremely balanced on offense and able to sustain drives, and second, their defense is playing lights out. They are one of the few teams in the NFL that can grind out the clock when they need to, and Alexander is always the first and second option near the goal line, which I expect them to see at more often when Branch starts drawing pass interference calls.

 

Mine

 

Sorry forgot to add:

 

Start Chester and Gore this week: wait one more week on DeAngelo to see how this plays out.

Also, start RWIlliams and Colston. As far as your third, it depends on your assessment of the matchup. If you need consistent but not great points, go Mason - it will be a tight game. If you need upside, then Evans finally has a decent matchup - they threw four deep bombs to him last week, one of them was flagged for pass interference- they are definitely trying to get him the ball in space.

[yomamahates 0]

Thanks for your post.

 

 

Seattle has an easy schedule. And with the addition of Branch, SA won't be much use. I agree with your trade.

 

But why Jordan? Clinton Portis has done more than him.

 

Either way you still end up ahead. You have good starting RB's.

[dantheman 0]

sorry but crazy to trade SA and not get more

thx for ans mine

[Cougars77 0]

It's not the worst trade I've ever seen but I think you gave up on Alexander WAY too early. Your trading partner DEFINITELY got the best of that trade.

[Bearshopeful 0]

Thanks for your post.

 

 

I think the trade was ok. You do need the help at WR. You might want to see who will trade you for Jordon or Moss or both. I would be a bit concerned having OAK RB and WR making up part of your cores.

[kbtegp 0]

I think it was a ballsy move on your part. I've actually had the same thoughts, but not enough guts to pull the trigger. How it works out is anybody's guess though.

 

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=235718

[Killer Elite 0]

Scarey having anyone from Oakland, and SA will be a sure TD a week. So not thinking I would have pulled this deal. But since you have, who do you start?

 

 

c. Taylor and Gore at RB, and Smith, R. Williams (I hope thats Roy, if not start J. Walker), and Randy Moss (yuck... down year for him I am afraid)

[ziggyschiefs 0]

not an overall bad move, i think it may work out. i probably wouldn't have done it just because it's SA and you never know. but your reasoning makes sense and it will be interesting to see what happens. you definitely upgraded at WR and if Jordan comes around, your RB situation isn't too bad either.

[tbrads 0]

Thanks for answering mine.

 

 

If Steve Smith is healthy, obvious choice. I would also play Colston, and Roy Williams.

 

At RB, ride Gore and Chester...

[EndAround 0]

I'm in a very similar situation, but didn't want to deal SA this early. It's always hard to tell how the addition of a top flight receiver will affect the rest of the team. Some would argue that with Branch/DJax/Burleson/Engram, the running lanes will open up for Alexander. I do agree that his production will be less than last year, but even at 16TD you may get more points out of him than whatever combo of Smith/Walker/Jordan you start from week to week.

 

As for starters, Gore/Chester looks good - I'm starting Taylor over D Williams (even against CHI) this week. If Williams starts getting consistent carries I might play matchups.

 

For WR this week, I'd rank them SSmith-RoyWilliams-Evans-Colston. Once his bye is done I'd put Moss back in the lineup most weeks unless Colston maintains his pace another week or two.

 

Please see mine since we have similar teams:http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=235366

[lsk6453 0]

First the trade I made.

 

I gave up Alexander and Mason for S. Smith, J. Walker and L. Jordan. Seems crazy on the surface, but I really needed to shore up my WR corp. What do you guys think? I think Alexander is due for a huge drop in numbers and Gore/Taylor will finish higher than him by year end. The drop will be because of the increased passing with Branch and the rest of the WR and the fact that the O-line is in distress with Hutchinson leaving and now Pork Chop gone.

 

My WR/RBs before were:

 

Alexander

Gore

C. Taylor

D. Williams

R. Williams

R. Moss

L. Evans

D. Mason

Colston

 

Now

Gore

C. Taylor

D. Williams

L. Jordan

S. Smith

R. Moss

R. Williams

L. Evans

Colston

 

Which way was I better off?

 

Which 3 WRs and 2 Rbs should I start?

 

I do not like the trade myself.

 

Wr to start:

Colston

R. Williams

S. Smith (if he plays)

 

RBs:

 

Gore

Taylor

[Groundhog 24]

Assuming that Smith's hammies don't hold him hostage all season, I like it. I agree that SA's numbers are going to tail off - not because of Branch, but because of the patchwork OL. They really miss Hutchinson there at LG. Plus, with almost no healthy TEs on the roster, Hasselbeck's checkdown options are disappearing, as is his pass protection. We'll probably see more 3-step drops, more 4-WR sets and quick passes, and those are not going to help SA's numbers.

 

The only thing I don't like is that you have a lot of exposure to the OAK offense. Both Moss AND Jordan? Yikes. I would try to trade one of them - maybe Jordan, since they won't be protecting too many leads the rest of the season.

 

Gore and Taylor are pretty much no-brainers at RB.

At WR, I'd say Smith, Williams and Colston as your top 3, with Moss at #4 and Evans at #5.

[bauman88 0]

I also got Javon Walker in the deal as one of my WRs. That isn't in my question.

 

and I will be playing Colston at TE for the year.

[philmckracken 3]

You have two things working for you:

 

1.Shaun Alexander (RB)

9/21: Shaun Alexander sat out Wednesday's practice and will probably sit out again Thursday because of a sore left foot that has bothered him since the season opener, according to the Seattle Times. Alexander, though, is listed as probable for Sunday. "Until the soreness goes out, we're going to give him a couple of days," coach Mike Holmgren said.

 

2. The Madden Curse

[pmatz 0]

I think the loss of Alexander might hurt, but in the long run you might be better off.

 

I'd start Gore/Taylor and Smith/Williams/Colston.

 

Thanks for mine

[Rocko1959 1]

O'll be on of the few and like your trade. Try to uload Jordan if you can even thought thay say they are going to pass more ti him. Just don't like the way Oakland looks this year.

 

 

RoyWilliams-Evans-Colston-SSmith... Wait one more week on Smith

 

Start Chester & Gore

[bauman88 0]

bump, how about today?

[Getch 0]

I think you could have gotten more for SA. He's started off slow but by the end of the season he'll be top a 4 RB easily. Although OAK has had a rough started against good D's they are a total mess. I empathize with anyone standing in that backfield becuase the O-line simply sucks. I would avoid anyone on that team like the plague.

J Walker still seems lik a work in progress and really hasn't busted out partially due to Plummer's play. However, if Plummer turns it around Walker's production will obviously increase. If it doesn't, there is talk of bringing in Cutler, which would also hurt Walker.

S Smith will be a stud WR barrying any recurring or new injuries. I like the way this guy talks, dedicated, motivated and results driven.

[bauman88 0]

any other feelings? I will be reading and posting for a while.

[STEELERMAN 0]

Well....you took a major gamble with this trade and need some things to work out.

 

#1: St. Smith hammy(s) is a giant risk...Will he be the same, a decoy, or get hurt again after 1 play?

Obviously if healthy he is a stud but that is a BIG if right now!

#2: Now you have 2 Raiders with Moss & Jordan. Better pray to Raider Nation that this team turns it around! Their O-Line is in shambles...thus the Off. is in shambles!!!!!

Hopefully Gore & Taylor will hold the fort until Smith recovers and Raiders turn it around

 

That said...I would not have made the trade until Smith proved he was healthy.

 

 

LINE UP:

 

RB: Taylor & Gore

WR: Colston, Evans, & R. Williams ( I would wait to see where Smith is at 1st)

[ggroovy17 0]

I'm not sure if I like the trade but I do like your RB core of Gore/C.Taylor. You have to realize that Alexander can carry your team and you could of traded Gore or C.Taylor and received a stud WR. If you look at the final points, receivers just don't score as much as RB's. Thanks for answering mine.

[Melvinbet 5]

It's a gamble that may pay off. Madden jinks? Who knows. You did get nice receivers though.

 

Thanks 4 mine

[angman 0]

I dunno if i woulda given up Alexander, but you did get some good players back. I still don't think I woulda done it though.

 

As for the lineup,

 

I'd start Gore and Taylor this week....i think Williams time to shine is coming very soon, but he will still split this week. As for the WRs, go Williams, Walker and Colston

[adanley 1]

You did improve your WR's, but your RB's could end up hurting you in the end. It's much easier to come into a good WR than a good RB.

[Melvinbet 5]

Roy or Reggie Williams?

 

Quick Poll

[bauman88 0]

Good Morning

 

Roy Williams

[budman1 0]

i don't like it, sorry, smith hurting, jordon on da raiders. bad move imo. thanks for mine

[duke5021 0]

even though i like reggie williams a lot this week especially if matt jones is out.. Roy is too good to sit with Green Bay's D coming to town.. go Roy

[nolefan 0]

I would not of traded SA for an injuried Smith

 

 

Gore

taylor

walker

williams

colston- smith if he plays

[dreen626 17]

I think it's a gamble.

I think i keep SA.

[Iamthatdamngood 0]

Thanks for the reply...

 

Gore

Taylor

Williams

Walker

Colston

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

Basically I think this comes down to the continued success of Gore and the future success of Smith. Personally I think I would have stuck with SA, but then gutsy moves like this can win championships. Check back in in 3 weeks; will SA's foot improve; will Gore be shut down as SF returns to being SF; will Smith still be on and off the bench? I think maybe it could work out but it's a roll of the dice.

[big blue bingo bob 0]

I am a strong believer in selling when the market is high. For SA it gets no higher. However I do think you could of done better then Lamont. Please note I think Lamont is a bum but thats my opinion.

 

 

 

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[bauman88 0]

What do you guys think about that trade now?