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https://wtop.com/local/2018/10/teen-passengers-with-teen-driver-raises-death-risk-in-crash-says-aaa/

 

When a teen driver has only teen passengers in the car, the fatality rate for all people involved in a crash goes up 51 percent, according to new research from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety.

 

According to AAA, in 2016, teen drivers were involved in more than 1 million police-reported crashes resulting in more than 3,200 deaths. When teenage drivers were carrying teen passengers, fatality rates rose:

  • 56 percent for occupants of other vehicles;
  • 45 percent for the teen driver;
  • 17 percent for pedestrians and cyclists.
In Virginia, a total of 69 people were killed in 2016, when the driver was a teen: 38 were drivers; 13 were passengers; 14 were in other vehicles; and 4 were walking or cycling.

 

In the same year in Maryland, 33 people were killed in crashes involving a teen driver: 8 were drivers; 9 were passengers; 10 were in other vehicles; and 6 were pedestrians or cyclists.

 

In the D.C. that year, one person in another vehicle was killed in a crash involving a D.C. teen driver.

 

Teens simply lack experience behind the wheel, which increases the odds of a deadly outcome, not just for the teen driver, but for their passengers and others on the roadways, said Jennifer Ryan, director of state relations for AAA.

 

Parents of teens must take this rite of passage seriously by setting and consistently enforcing rules to limit teenage passengers in the vehicle.

 

The travel advocacy group offers tips for parents to help teenagers drive safely:

  • Require teens to log at least 100 hours of supervised practice driving with a parent before driving solo.
  • Begin by practicing driving in low-risk situations and gradually move to situations that are more complex: highways, nighttime, driving in the rain, and on and around challenging roadways (for instance, curves).
  • Allow no more than one non-family passenger under the age of 20 to ride with the teen driver during the first six months of driving.
  • Use slightly different routes each practice session.
  • Practice adjusting speed based on three factors: visibility, on-road traffic and different road conditions.
Data used in the study came from the 2016 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Fatality Analysis Reporting System and the Crash Report Sampling Survey System.

 

And yet the idiots think gun control and school shootings have more urgency...

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So wait. Are you saying until this gets under control no one should discuss gun control or school shootings? We cant do two things at once? When people bring up the gun control debate this is one of the dumbest arguments that comes out of it.

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Some may argue driving and transportation is a rather required part of daily life. Some may argue owning an ak47 with a bump stock is not really very fundimental to daily life.

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Parents allow their teens to drive/ride in cars with certain amounts of assumed risk that it's dangerous.

 

Parents do not send their children to school with the assumed risk that they will be gunned down by an AK-47.

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So these stats indicate an issue with the individuals, or are we to believe that society has some hidden systemic bias against teens?

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Some may argue driving and transportation is a rather required part of daily life. Some may argue owning an ak47 with a bump stock is not really very fundimental to daily life.

Some may argue that driving and transportation have an effect on everyone on a daily basis. Some may argue that owning an AK47 does not have an effect on daily life.

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Some may argue that owning an AK47 does not have an effect on daily life.

Right so not a huge day having a bit better regulations. Glad we worked this one out

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Wow, that's a lot of death.

 

There are probably some things that can be done to mitigate it. Some ideas:

 

- Ensure at a minimum they know how to operate the vehicle through a written and use test, overseen by a gov't official. once passed it would allow that person to have a drivers "license", which they need to have on them at all times to prove they know the basic use of a car and how to safely drive one.

 

- Require the "license" be renewed at regular intervals.

 

- Take the license away of the person demonstrates they are not able to safely operate their vehicles.

 

- Make them register every vehicle with the gov't, including a unique ID number. You know, in case someone steals the vehicle and does something bad with it.

 

- Tax the vehicle and license so there are enough funds to pay for the overhead of tracking all these dangerous cars.

 

That's all I can think of right now, but I'm sure they would make cars a lot safer.

 

I do like the above suggestions as well, where they recommend that the parents that let their kids near their cars be extra-super careful with them because they are dangerous in the wrong hands.

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Some may argue that driving and transportation have an effect on everyone on a daily basis. Some may argue that owning an AK47 does not have an effect on daily life.

 

But how are we to use THESE stats......to show a problem with teen drivers or to show some mysterious bias built into our society....that is the real question

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And yet the idiots think gun control and school shootings have more urgency...

 

Don't know about other states but my state already has a graduated licensing process for teens that incorporates steps similar to many of the suggestions in that report. Interestingly, when that law was proposed there wasn't any huge organized opposition to it. Most people seemed to recognize that though it was a bit of a pain in the ass it made tons of sense. That's the difference between sensible driving regulation and sensible gun regulation.

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Oh yeah - maybe it would be a good idea to also have different KINDS of licenses for driving. Like one for when you are just learning to drive, one for cars, one for big trucks etc. Because even someone that maybe knows the basics should not just be allowed to drive a focking 18 wheeler! Right??!! I mean, that could really cause a LOT of damage if some random focko could just buy and drive an 18 wheeler, am I right?

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Don't know about other states but my state already has a graduated licensing process for teens that incorporates steps similar to many of the suggestions in that report. Interestingly, when that law was proposed there wasn't any huge organized opposition to it. Most people seemed to recognize that though it was a bit of a pain in the ass it made tons of sense. That's the difference between sensible driving regulation and sensible gun regulation.

 

Right. Our kids get a permit at 16. Can get license at 16 1/2. First 6 months of driving, they cannot have anyone other than a sibling in the car without an adult. They have restrictions on the hours that they may drive. If there are any issues, they pull your license.

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Right. Our kids get a permit at 16. Can get license at 16 1/2. First 6 months of driving, they cannot have anyone other than a sibling in the car without an adult. They have restrictions on the hours that they may drive. If there are any issues, they pull your license.

 

Similar system here. It's clearly a clever ruse to take all our cars though. :mad:

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Right. Our kids get a permit at 16. Can get license at 16 1/2. First 6 months of driving, they cannot have anyone other than a sibling in the car without an adult. They have restrictions on the hours that they may drive. If there are any issues, they pull your license.

 

Basically the same deal in Indiana.

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