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12 team 3-keeper league. We start 1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 WR/RB, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST, and IDPs

 

I have to choose 3 keepers from:

 

LT

LJ

Chad Johnson

Lamont Jordan

Carson Palmer

 

So it's really more that I have to choose 1 keeper from CJ, Lamont and Carson.

 

I've been planning on going with LT, LJ and Chad Johnson for a long time because I figure an elite WR improves your WR corps greatly. Also, I think Chad + whatever starting RB I can get, is going to be better than Lamont and a 3rd WR.

 

At the same time, there aren't going to be many RBs left and I have the 11th pick. I have a particular RB in mind whom I'd be just as happy having as Lamont, but I'm not sure he'll fall to me.

 

As for Carson, I feel like I'm dropping Peyton 2.0, but he could be available too by the 11th pick because of injury. Chad Johnson and Lamont I know won't.

 

What do you guys think? and why?

 

Thanks in advance.

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I think LT, LJ, and Chad Johnson is the only way to go here. Being that you have to start 3 WR's, having Chad Johnson gives you a huge advantage. Plus, Chad Johnson is greater to WR's than Lamont Jordan is to RB's.

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i d take all 3 backs. there is still great WR value u'll get in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft.

 

u can probably take a sleeper RB withupside with your 3rd round pick (round 5 essentially)

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Basically same problem I have this year.

 

My keepers are LT, LJ, and Jordan - I released Palmer (probably will re-draft at 1.09) and traded Steve Smith for 3.08 pick in the draft (would have lost him if I didn't trade him.)

 

We start 3 RB, so it is a no-brainer for me to keep 3RB's

 

What pick do you have in the first?

 

I would keep all three RB's, but Bad thing with this is that all three of your RB's are AFC west with Week # bye!

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Basically same problem I have this year.

 

My keepers are LT, LJ, and Jordan - I released Palmer (probably will re-draft at 1.09) and traded Steve Smith for 3.08 pick in the draft (would have lost him if I didn't trade him.)

 

We start 3 RB, so it is a no-brainer for me to keep 3RB's

 

What pick do you have in the first?

 

I would keep all three RB's, but Bad thing with this is that all three of your RB's are AFC west with Week # bye!

 

Thanks for all the input, but still not sure what to do.

 

I have the 11th pick in the first non-keeper round (4th round, 47th player overall). And yes, LT, LJ and Lamont all have the same bye week (week 3).

 

This is how I look at it.

 

I could go

 

WR: CJ, 5th round WR, x - RB: LT, LJ, 4th Round RB

 

or

 

WR: 4th round WR, 5th round WR, x - RB: LT, LJ, Lamont

 

So what is more valuable, CJ + 4th Round RB or Lamont and a 4th Round RB

 

Now here is a list of the RBs and WRs that won't be, or are unlikely to be kept:

 

RBs - FWP, Deuce, T.Jones, C.Taylor, Bush, Addai, Gore, Foster (or Droughns), other rookies

 

WRs - Ward, Chambers, D.Jax, Burress, Roy, Driver, Galloway, Housh, Javon Walker, R.Smith, Horn, Mason etc...

 

So it's either CJ with one of those RBs and one of those WRs, or Lamont with 2 of those WRs

 

example:

 

CJ, Gore, Burress

 

or

 

Lamont, Burress, Driver

 

Lamont option doesn't look bad, but CJ is so fun to root for. OH and I forgot we get .5 PPR.

 

Basically, who is going to give me more points:

 

a 4th Round RB

 

or

 

a 4th Round WR

 

because in our scoring system, Lamont and CJ scored 250 and 240 points last year, respectively.

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One thing to keep in mind-

 

LJ, LT and Jordan all have the same bye week (week 3)

 

Palmer & Johnson (week 5)

 

Unless you can afford to take a lose in week 3, I would go LJ, LT and CJ. That will allow you to pick up some players to fill the gaps.

 

If you take LT, LJ and Jordan you will have to scramble to get WR's and have no RB for week 3.

 

Good Luck!

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I would keep the 3 RB and draft WR/Palmer or WR/WR if Palmer is gone in the 5th.

Agree. The Lamont option you showed above is stronger than the CJ option. You can find WR production during the draft and/or via trade, *especially* if you have a stud RB to deal. Def. keep Lamont.

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bump. any other opinions.

 

I just think that in the future, and not just this year, I'll be able to find better talent at my 3rd RB than I would at my #1 WR. Not to mention, I have far more flexibility in drafting if I keep the WR/RB slot open rather than filling up all available RB spots and drafting WRs and other positions only.

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Trade LT for Reggie Bush and a WR.

 

THen you keep

LJ, Bush, Johnson

 

and then draft accordingly.

 

That will mix up your rb divisions and bye weeks, and youll have the two best rb's over the next couple of years, after Bush progresses.

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make a trade, easy as that...Trade Jordan and CJ for steve smith and a draft pick :)

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make a trade, easy as that...Trade Jordan and CJ for steve smith and a draft pick :)

 

No trades of non keepers allowed. Plus, CJ is a more valuable keeper in my opinion than steve smith. Only WR with more value as a keeper may be Fitzgerald.

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No trades of non keepers allowed.

 

 

if you can't trade non-keepers how come you have "trade bait" listed in your sig? or did you mean no trading of picks?

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if you can't trade non-keepers how come you have "trade bait" listed in your sig? or did you mean no trading of picks?

 

my bad. I'm the commish, I wrote up the constitution etc. The constitution allows for trading of keepers and picks, but also allows people to change their keepers at any time. So at the end of last season, I said that since we could change keepers anyways, that that means we could trade anyone (obviously that was in my interest, but I felt it was a fair interpretation).

 

Nevertheless, this year, after looking more and more at it, I felt that if the stronger teams could benefit each year from their depth from the year before, then it would result in the best teams stacking up on high picks. I felt this was unfair, and to promote parity, I ruled that the interpretation of the constitution that would be in the best interest of the league would be to only allow trades of keepers and picks after keepers have been announced.

 

So, now I have to choose because I wanted to throw a bone to the shitty teams. My team keepers are already about as good as they get so I didn't want the league to suck by killing any competition. People have to have some hope to enjoy the league.

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Depends on your scoring system. In my keeper league last year, Palmer was the highest scoring player at any position, across the board. Peyton was behind him, then the RBs.

 

One of the most important things I look at when picking between two good keepers is who's left at both positions. If you keep Palmer, how many quality WRs are left? And if you keep Johnson, how many quality QBs are left?

 

What are the other teams keeping? If everyone else is keeping a QB, then keep Johnson, because everyone else won't be going after QBs, and you can likely get Palmer back. But the flip side there isn't true. Even if everyone keeps WRs, Johnson will be snatched up quickly.

 

Sorry that's not a definate answer. Just some things to consider.

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I would keep Chad for the following reasons:

 

1. You are starting LT and LJ every week. I don't think you will need to make any decisions any week except week 3.

 

2. You must start 3 WR. By keeping Chad, at least you are guaranteed a stud at that spot as well.

 

3. Who cares about the bye week, so you don't go undefeated. As long as you win your championship, and you will not be using Lamont in your playoffs unless something goes wrong.

 

Good Luck!!

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I would keep all three runningbacks. A starting backfield of LJ, LT and Jordan is unstoppable. Also, I'm not really familiar with how keeper leagues work but is it possible to trade the other guys you're not keeping for draft picks to possibly another team that doesn't have keeper candidates as strong as yours?

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I would keep all three runningbacks. A starting backfield of LJ, LT and Jordan is unstoppable. Also, I'm not really familiar with how keeper leagues work but is it possible to trade the other guys you're not keeping for draft picks to possibly another team that doesn't have keeper candidates as strong as yours?

 

No. We can only trade players from last year's rosters that we are keeping.

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Standard scoring in a Yahoo league had these numbers for 2005

 

Jordan - 213 pts

TJones - 188 pts

FWP - 163 pts

Foster - 128 pts

Droughns - 157 pts

 

CJ - 190 pts

Galloway - 180 pts

Chambers - 176 pts

Burress - 154 pts

Driver - 144 pts

 

Just looking at last year numbers I would think that Jordan would be the best pick. He out scored CJ and the drop off from him to the next guys is more. Also considering the next guys all have some questions and Jordan doesn't. I would have to keep Jordan

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