Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 6, 2017 Punishing them for the sins of their parents? Classy Must start the process sometime bud. If douchnozzle Obama didn't create this mess with an EO we wouldn't be having this banter now. Blame your boy O and the ILLEGAL parents not me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 There is no deporting mentioned just that the policy is expiring and you have 6 months to figure it out Andwhat after that? If this congress which has done nothing of note...does nothing. What do you think happens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 As always not a single fact you present. The burden of proof is on you. You say it's good. Prove it Prove it's good? Here is what ending it does... https://www.cato.org/blog/economic-fiscal-impact-repealing-daca Still waiting in you to post any actual facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 6, 2017 Punishing them for the sins of their parents? Classy I guess it's cool to just punish tax payers instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Must start the process sometime bud. If douchnozzle Obama didn't create this mess with an EO we wouldn't be having this banter now. Blame your boy O and the ILLEGAL parents not me. I blame you and others for the negative impact that this would have on our economy. But you give us the reason this was done...this much is for sure... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI-GmeuXgAIISXE.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 I guess it's cool to just punish tax payers instead. DACA doesn't punish taxpayers...quite the opposite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 Back where? To places they don't really even know of? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Yes. Pathetic as always. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 Pathetic as always. I'm not sure what you want me to say? Democrats put these people in limbo. Obama is a pu$$y who allowed these idiots who never should have been here to defer. They have been a burden on our tax dollars sucking up spaces in our schools and take scholarships from needy Americans. Specifically our lower income black communities. 2000+ of these illegal aliens who are in the defer program are criminals. They were so brazen they started to flaunt their criminal activity. Remember, We are here to stay? Remember, when they chanted Make America Mexico again? Remember when they held Mexican flags and chanted viva la mexico? Remember when they took to twitter, instagram, facebook hell even Time Magazine and flaunted they they were "undocumented" and there was nothing we could do about it? Well they where wrong and THEY HAVE TO GO BACK! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 I'm not sure what you want me to say? Democrats put these people in limbo. Obama is a ###### who allowed these idiots who never should have been here to defer. They have been a burden on our tax dollars sucking up spaces in our schools and take scholarships from needy Americans. Specifically our lower income black communities. 2000+ of these illegal aliens who are in the defer program are criminals. They were so brazen they started to flaunt their criminal activity. Remember, We are here to stay? Remember, when they chanted Make America Mexico again? Remember when they held Mexican flags and chanted viva la mexico? Remember when they took to twitter, instagram, facebook hell even Time Magazine and flaunted they they were "undocumented" and there was nothing we could do about it? Well they where wrong and THEY HAVE TO GO BACK! These "idiots" have gone through application processes...background checks...and contribute positively to our country and economy. Again...ignorance and just pathetic as always from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,622 Posted September 6, 2017 Back where? To places they don't really even know of? I thought they went through background checks? How did they go through a real background check if they don't know of where they are from? How are we supposed to know if they don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted September 6, 2017 These "idiots" have gone through application processes...background checks...and contribute positively to our country and economy. Again...ignorance and just pathetic as always from you. It is all moot! This about the constitution and the law! Inside every Liberal is a Totalitarian screaming to get out. By executive order, President Obama granted amnesty to immigrants living illegally in the United States. It was an unconstitutional act. Obama had previously admitted he had no authority to end deportations of illegal aliens when he said, The notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. Then he went about doing it anyway, conjuring a new breadth of hypocrisy. His successor, President Trump, is now taking the first step toward restoring sanity to the rule of law as it applies to the Constitution and immigration. By rescinding the Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program that gave a deportation reprieve to illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, Trump is returning legislative authority to the legislature. He is reinstating the separation of powers that are fundamental to our democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 6, 2017 I blame you and others for the negative impact that this would have on our economy. But you give us the reason this was done...this much is for sure...https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI-GmeuXgAIISXE.jpg Ok, your position is th economy may suffer hence you want the illegals to stay. Here I figured you cared about the individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,636 Posted September 6, 2017 Just like I said, illegal cheap labor hurts the poorest the most. We should probably start throwing some facts out here. Like the percentage of small businesses that are started by dreamers. Also, the education level of dreamers. Then we should compare that to our resident Chicago Thugs and their ilk. And just for fun, to us normal white people too. I think you'd find it interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,622 Posted September 6, 2017 Trump is doing these people a favor. 10 states are in the process of suing over this, and Even a liberal court wouldn't uphold this as constitutional. He's actually giving Congress an opportunity to do something, and has stated his willingness to go along. But nope, Not good enough for these fockin children throwing a tantrum, like their leaders in the media and Hollywood have instructed them to do. Step back and think for yourselves once in a god dam while. This lock-step, hysterical reaction to anything he does is played the f out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 These "idiots" have gone through application processes...background checks...and contribute positively to our country and economy. Again...ignorance and just pathetic as always from you. k, they still have to go back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,636 Posted September 6, 2017 You know, just once, it would be nice if Baker Boy actually provided attribution for the ship that he cuts and pastes. And anybody who thinks Trump actually gives two s**** about returning power to Congress? Jesus that's the funniest thing I've heard all month. End of the day, it's a bargaining chip. Ultimately what he shooting for is to say okay will let the dreamers stay now give me my wall. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted September 6, 2017 You know, just once, it would be nice if Baker Boy actually provided attribution for the ship that he cuts and pastes. And anybody who thinks Trump actually gives two s**** about returning power to Congress? Jesus that's the funniest thing I've heard all month. End of the day, it's a bargaining chip. Ultimately what he shooting for is to say okay will let the dreamers stay now give me my wall. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 It is all moot! This about the constitution and the law! Inside every Liberal is a Totalitarian screaming to get out. By executive order, President Obama granted amnesty to immigrants living illegally in the United States. It was an unconstitutional act. Obama had previously admitted he had no authority to end deportations of illegal aliens when he said, The notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. Then he went about doing it anyway, conjuring a new breadth of hypocrisy. His successor, President Trump, is now taking the first step toward restoring sanity to the rule of law as it applies to the Constitution and immigration. By rescinding the Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program that gave a deportation reprieve to illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, Trump is returning legislative authority to the legislature. He is reinstating the separation of powers that are fundamental to our democracy. Bullshit that this is about law and the constitution. And it was so unconstitutional the SCOTUS voted 4-4 when reviewing it...right? This action is not sanity. He is passing the buck in a way...and already waffling on that. And him talking about separation of powers and you all worrying about Executive Orders is funny...given none of you have said a damn thing about the number he signed immediately. This was about reversing Obama policy...because he can't get done through congress...cant repeal Obamacare...can't really get his wall...and can't really get tax reform done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Ok, your position is th economy may suffer hence you want the illegals to stay. Here I figured you cared about the individual. My position is these people came here as children. Through no fault of their own...they are here and contribute positively to this country and our economy. They are not criminals and contribute more than many of our own citizens. They are the very type of people we should want in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 k, they still have to go back. There is no other way to say this about you and your position...other than to just say you are a focking moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/905231151127810049 Trump already waffling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,309 Posted September 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/905231151127810049 Trump already waffling. What a pvssy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,190 Posted September 6, 2017 You know, just once, it would be nice if Baker Boy actually provided attribution for the ship that he cuts and pastes. And anybody who thinks Trump actually gives two s**** about returning power to Congress? Jesus that's the funniest thing I've heard all month. End of the day, it's a bargaining chip. Ultimately what he shooting for is to say okay will let the dreamers stay now give me my wall. Possibly. Is that a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Possibly. Is that a bad thing? Using about 800,000 positive members of our society as a bargaining chip for spending a ridiculous amount on an ineffective wall he claimed another country would pay for? Yeah...thats a bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 They are not criminals and contribute more than many of our own citizens. Liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,622 Posted September 6, 2017 Well one good thing that has come out if this affair is that the left agrees that children should not be punished for what their parents did. Grandparents and great great grand pappys too I assume? Looks like I'm off the hook for that "white privledge" I inherited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,190 Posted September 6, 2017 Using about 800,000 positive members of our society as a bargaining chip for spending a ridiculous amount on an ineffective wall he claimed another country would pay for? Yeah...thats a bad thing. I don't honestly know, I was intrigued by wiff's theory. I will say that somewhere in this process we need to stem new illegals from entering. I'm not a fan of a physical wall as I think we've got technology which could be much more effective, but something needs to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Liar No loes...just the truth about those enrolled in DACA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 I don't honestly know, I was intrigued by wiff's theory. I will say that somewhere in this process we need to stem new illegals from entering. I'm not a fan of a physical wall as I think we've got technology which could be much more effective, but something needs to change. Amount has been dropping year after year...no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 Well one good thing that has come out if this affair is that the left agrees that children should not be punished for what their parents did. Grandparents and great great grand pappys too I assume? Looks like I'm off the hook for that "white privledge" I inherited. Those poor 32 year old children will be ripped from their mothers arms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 No loes...just the truth about those enrolled in DACA Yes, you're a liar. I can link to multiple murders by these dreamers. Many of them are criminals. They have to go back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Yes, you're a liar. I can link to multiple murders by these dreamers. Many of them are criminals. They have to go back. Please post any credible link to crimal acts of those inDACA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 Please post any credible link to crimal acts of those inDACA. Feds: 30% surge in illegals losing DACA freedom for crimes, gang violence http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feds-30-surge-in-illegals-losing-daca-freedom-for-crimes-gang-violence/article/2632820 The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services said that 622 had their deferred action status pulled this year due to criminal activity. The numbers on revocations and terminations: 2013 -- 56. 2014 -- 153. 2015 -- 460. 2016 -- 848. 2017 -- 622. Total -- 2,139. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,622 Posted September 6, 2017 <p> Feds: 30% surge in illegals losing DACA freedom for crimes, gang violence http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feds-30-surge-in-illegals-losing-daca-freedom-for-crimes-gang-violence/article/2632820 The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services said that 622 had their deferred action status pulled this year due to criminal activity. The numbers on revocations and terminations: 2013 -- 56. 2014 -- 153. 2015 -- 460. 2016 -- 848. 2017 -- 622. Total -- 2,139. Wow. And that's the ones that get caught. Triple that, maybe quadruple. It's a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted September 6, 2017 Wow. And that's the ones that get caught. Triple that, maybe quadruple. It's a problem. Sad isn't. And Slo Nut has no idea. He believes everything he hears from CNN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 <p> Feds: 30% surge in illegals losing DACA freedom for crimes, gang violence http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feds-30-surge-in-illegals-losing-daca-freedom-for-crimes-gang-violence/article/2632820 The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services said that 622 had their deferred action status pulled this year due to criminal activity. The numbers on revocations and terminations: 2013 -- 56. 2014 -- 153. 2015 -- 460. 2016 -- 848. 2017 -- 622. Total -- 2,139. So...their status was pulled? No longer in the program...correct? You claimed murderers and come back with this...what...about .2% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,575 Posted September 6, 2017 Sho nuff is right guys open the borders, free educations for all messicans m-13 get priority Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Sad isn't. And Slo Nut has no idea. He believes everything he hears from CNN. Liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Sho nuff is right guys open the borders, free educations for all messicans m-13 get priority Way to go overboard and say things Ive never once said or advocated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites