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Did a mock in a 10 team with the 8th pick. I actually went WR in the first 3 rounds lol, but I like my team. After the top 5 rbs, the next 10-15 are so similar with break or bust potential. Is Leveon Bell worth a pick 2 or 3 rounds higher than Ryan Matthews?

 

Far less of a chance to bust with a top 7 WR vs that second tier of ribs (Martin, Stacy, Bell, Bernard). I was able to get some starter quality rbs in round 4 and 5.

 

Qb: Ryan, Brady

RB: Matthews, Richardson, Jennings, Ridley, Sankey

WR: Megatron, Dem Thomas, Antonio Brown,Terrence Williams, Reuban Randle

TE: Pitta, Rudolph

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I think Bell is worth more then two or three rounds higher pick then Matthew .

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i am keeping Dez and AJG in my 12 team ppr. they account for my 1st 2 rounds. Did it last year and it worked out. Went with 4 RB's in a row for rnds 3 thru 6. This year I think there are a ton of mid range RB's with upside again. Not worried at all, when you grab 4 in a row there is a good chance 2 will work out. Then you can get a QB in round 7... Romo type

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I did it last year with Dez and Dem. Thomas and I barely missed out on the playoffs....mostly because my RB's sh!t the bed.

 

It was nice knowing that I did not have to play WR Roulette on a weekly basis, but it came at the expense of my RB's. You can probably wait until round 8 for a QB, but you are going to have to nail your RB's in the mid rounds. The biggest issue was people starting to take their 3rd rb's before I had a chance to take my 2nd one.

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last year I got Murray in the 3rd, Ridley in the 4th ( traded him for CJ right before he got benched and CJ took off ) got lucky. Gore in the 5th...

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Your picks don't add up based on ADP or my last live draft. It's a fun thought but I don't see that team happening in real life.

 

Sankey, Richardson, Jennings all went within a round of each other. The RBS were complete garbage by the 6th round.

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I did it last year with Dez and Dem. Thomas and I barely missed out on the playoffs....mostly because my RB's sh!t the bed.

 

It was nice knowing that I did not have to play WR Roulette on a weekly basis, but it came at the expense of my RB's. You can probably wait until round 8 for a QB, but you are going to have to nail your RB's in the mid rounds. The biggest issue was people starting to take their 3rd rb's before I had a chance to take my 2nd one.

This is exactly why wr wr is iffy. You can still get good wrs after the first few rnds but the rbs are extremely hard to guess right at that point. At least in the first couple rnds you have a 50% chance to get it right taking an rb!

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At the expense of your RB corps? No thank you. It's so much harder in this age of football to get a true workhorse RB with all the rbbc. Now you have to choose between someone who is utilized between the 20s or someone who gets the carries in the red zones. Would much rather select the first 10 rbs who I know will get used between the 20s and at the goal line than get wrs early and risk it in the later rounds

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I've been doing this (3 straight WRs) off/on all day from the 8,9, or 10 spot & also really like my teams. My favorite so far:(most are a variation of)

QB: Foles & Cutler

RB: Jennings/Tolbert/CJ/Rice/Freeman

WR: DT/Dez/Cobb/Bowe/Gordon

TE: Rudolph & Clay

K: ???

D: ???

 

But I may be higher on Jennings/Tolbert/CJ...snd maybe Freeman than most :dunno:

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I've been doing this (3 straight WRs) off/on all day from the 8,9, or 10 spot & also really like my teams. My favorite so far:(most are a variation of)

QB: Foles & Cutler

RB: Jennings/Tolbert/CJ/Rice/Freeman

WR: DT/Dez/Cobb/Bowe/Gordon

TE: Rudolph & Clay

K: ???

D: ???

 

But I may be higher on Jennings/Tolbert/CJ...snd maybe Freeman than most :dunno:

Yuck man. I would feel lucky to get 15 per week out of my RB starters if that was my group. It would basically be a group of guys that you are crossing your fingers they score.

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Yuck man. I would feel lucky to get 15 per week out of my RB starters if that was my group. It would basically be a group of guys that you are crossing your fingers they score.

This was the strategy I used last year and it worked out because the RBs I got late. My Sig is my last year's team. I am drafting late again this year and I might try the same strategy. I am just worried that last year was a fluke with the rookie RBs is able to score.

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Are you PPR? When you get points for receptions, this strategy can be effective ... especially if you're targeting guys like Woodhead and Pierre Thomas in the mid rounds.

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Are you PPR? When you get points for receptions, this strategy can be effective ... especially if you're targeting guys like Woodhead and Pierre Thomas in the mid rounds.

This is right for sure. PPR is a game changer because you can squeeze 8 point weeks out of RBS like Dex Mc.

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This was the strategy I used last year and it worked out because the RBs I got late. My Sig is my last year's team. I am drafting late again this year and I might try the same strategy. I am just worried that last year was a fluke with the rookie RBs is able to score.

I don't doubt the strategy but just like any strategy in FF...if you pick the right players it's going to work.

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I don't doubt the strategy but just like any strategy in FF...if you pick the right players it's going to work.

 

I completely agree. Last year I saw a lot of positive situations with the rookie RBs so it was a good move then. This year, I don't see the same rookie RB situation, but I still see more potential with drafting 2 of the Megatron/Dez/Demarius/Green group verse two RBs that can be available for people drafting later in the first round. You'll have to hit on later round picks for "come back" players like Rice or Bradshaw, but I think I like this strategy over trying to hit on late round WRs and still having a high risk with your early round RBs.

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Did a mock in a 10 team with the 8th pick. I actually went WR in the first 3 rounds lol, but I like my team. After the top 5 rbs, the next 10-15 are so similar with break or bust potential. Is Leveon Bell worth a pick 2 or 3 rounds higher than Ryan Matthews?

 

Far less of a chance to bust with a top 7 WR vs that second tier of ribs (Martin, Stacy, Bell, Bernard). I was able to get some starter quality rbs in round 4 and 5.

 

Qb: Ryan, Brady

RB: Matthews, Richardson, Jennings, Ridley, Sankey

WR: Megatron, Dem Thomas, Antonio Brown,Terrence Williams, Reuban Randle

TE: Pitta, Rudolph

Was this a 4 team mock? Megatron and Dem Thomas have not fallen out of the first round in any of my drafts. Not once. Antonio Brown has been a second rounder in each, going just behind Brandon Marshall. So, you were able to get two first round WR's and a mid 2nd rounder with your first three picks?

 

As for your RB's - Matthews has had one solid year in his career. Are you going to bank on that again? Richardson looked lost last night. Totally lost. In fact, he looked exaxtly like he did all of last season, outside of his first carry. He's an albatross. I'm interested in where you got Sankey/Jennings/Richardson. Sankey has been going before the other two in all my drafts and Jennings/Richardson have been going in the same round in most.

 

I think the team overall isn't bad, but I'm still not sure how you got 3 picks out of the first 18, which would be required to get Dem/Mega/Antonio. It's obvious it was a mock.

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Are you PPR? When you get points for receptions, this strategy can be effective ... especially if you're targeting guys like Woodhead and Pierre Thomas in the mid rounds.

The only problem is half the league is targeting those same players. Someone will always draft one of those guys earlier than you think, just so they have them. I see too many guys draft WR/WR and then wind up with 4 RB3's on their roster. They stay competitive, but they don't win the league. I have broken my RB/RB philosophy this year to take Marshall in the 2nd round of nearly every draft. There are a LOT of 2nd round RB's that are massive reaches this year, so you can get the same quality in round 3/4 as you can in round two. The problem is making sure you have at least one of the top tier RB's. Nobody wants to play out the season "hoping" one of their RB's takes flight. Poor strategy.

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I didn't like this approach last year but that was more because I felt there was significant value later on at the WR position in players like Pierre Garcon, Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon. I typically find it's easier to clue in on potential later round WR's.

 

This year though I'm having trouble identifying receivers I really like later on. There's a couple I'd consider I guess but I don't feel as confident. I really like Ryan Mathews and if I went WR/WR it would be with the expectation that he would fall to 3.10 but I would be pretty pissed if Jennings or someone was my #1 RB.

 

 

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I understand the temptation, but WR is so deep that people are still grabbing quality options there in the mid rounds whereas you are scouring the barrel trying to make up deficits at other positions. Not a good spot to be in

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i love this plan in ppr, pretty much every yr.

particularly if ur in the back of rd 1.

if a couple QBs go early, it'll be even better.

double up on 2 WR studs and call it day.

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Was this a 4 team mock? Megatron and Dem Thomas have not fallen out of the first round in any of my drafts. Not once. Antonio Brown has been a second rounder in each, going just behind Brandon Marshall. So, you were able to get two first round WR's and a mid 2nd rounder with your first three picks?

 

As for your RB's - Matthews has had one solid year in his career. Are you going to bank on that again? Richardson looked lost last night. Totally lost. In fact, he looked exaxtly like he did all of last season, outside of his first carry. He's an albatross. I'm interested in where you got Sankey/Jennings/Richardson. Sankey has been going before the other two in all my drafts and Jennings/Richardson have been going in the same round in most.

 

I think the team overall isn't bad, but I'm still not sure how you got 3 picks out of the first 18, which would be required to get Dem/Mega/Antonio. It's obvious it was a mock.

Read the first sentence of the post.

I've seen Antonio Brown go in round 2 maybe once in over 15 mocks. Not a surprise he fell to round 3.

And I would lie about this why?

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I just drafted yesterday. Because of the way things fell, I ended up going WR/WR/WR. I still think I have enough RB depth to go strong this year (having Bell as a keeper helps). This is a 10 team league.

 

Demaryius Thomas

Dez Bryant

Randall Cobb

Matthew Staford

Frank Gore

Toby Gerhart

Le'Veon Bell

Pierre Thomas

Brandin Cooks

Carlos Hyde

Kelvin Benjamin

Martellus Bennett

LeGarrette Blount

Rueben Randle

Mason Crosby

Bears

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You should only go WR/WR if you can land a combination of any of these wideouts

 

Calvin Johnson

Demaryius Thomas

Dez Bryant

AJ Green

Julio Jones

Brandon Marshall

 

Your RBs would be slim in rounds 3 and 4. Reggie Bush/ Joique Bell, Andre Ellington, Ryan Matthews, Chris Johnson.

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You should only go WR/WR if you can land a combination of any of these wideouts

 

Calvin Johnson

Demaryius Thomas

Dez Bryant

AJ Green

Julio Jones

Brandon Marshall

 

Your RBs would be slim in rounds 3 and 4. Reggie Bush/ Joique Bell, Andre Ellington, Ryan Matthews, Chris Johnson.

I just did a mock out of the 10th spot in a 12-person league & took Graham/Bryant to start out the draft. Followed it up with Mathews/Ellington at the 3/4 turn. While having those 2 as my starters isn't the worst thing in the world, Graham & Dez are a lethal combo at the WR/TE positions. I can't get too excited about any team I've mocked that doesn't include one of the top 5 RB's.

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I just did a mock out of the 10th spot in a 12-person league & took Graham/Bryant to start out the draft. Followed it up with Mathews/Ellington at the 3/4 turn. While having those 2 as my starters isn't the worst thing in the world, Graham & Dez are a lethal combo at the WR/TE positions. I can't get too excited about any team I've mocked that doesn't include one of the top 5 RB's.

 

 

I would love the 1-4 in a ppr league

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I just did a mock out of the 10th spot in a 12-person league & took Graham/Bryant to start out the draft. Followed it up with Mathews/Ellington at the 3/4 turn. While having those 2 as my starters isn't the worst thing in the world, Graham & Dez are a lethal combo at the WR/TE positions. I can't get too excited about any team I've mocked that doesn't include one of the top 5 RB's.

 

Which is my point, IF you cant get one of the top 5 RBs. This should only be a strategy used for guys drafting in the 9 - 12 spots. Quite honestly after the top 5 RBs are gone, its all sh!t from a RB standpoint to me. I understand that there is great value in later rounds for WRs, but why let all the great ones slide down to the guys that already got a top 5 RB just because you wanna grab a second tier RB?

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Which is my point, IF you cant get one of the top 5 RBs. This should only be a strategy used for guys drafting in the 9 - 12 spots. Quite honestly after the top 5 RBs are gone, its all sh!t from a RB standpoint to me. I understand that there is great value in later rounds for WRs, but why let all the great ones slide down to the guys that already got a top 5 RB just because you wanna grab a second tier RB?

BINGO

 

I'm at pick 11, and I'm not gonna load up on tier 2 players (rb) while tier 1A players (wr in ppr) are sitting there.

 

I will possibly come away with any 2 of: Dez/DT/BMarsh/AJ/Julio - and I will go Brown or Jordy with any of the above in round 2, depending on how deep the run goes before my second round pick (14th overall)

 

not considering rb in first 2 rds at all.

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Which is my point, IF you cant get one of the top 5 RBs. This should only be a strategy used for guys drafting in the 9 - 12 spots. Quite honestly after the top 5 RBs are gone, its all sh!t from a RB standpoint to me. I understand that there is great value in later rounds for WRs, but why let all the great ones slide down to the guys that already got a top 5 RB just because you wanna grab a second tier RB?

Agreed. Do you go with a combo of Dez/AJ/Julio/DT/Graham/Marshall or pair one of them with either Foster/Murray/Gio/Stacy who have either injury or RBBC questions surrounding them.

 

That's why I mocked the combo of Graham/Dez to see how it looked. If that's the route you go, does one feel comfortable with a combo of Gerhart/CJ1K/Rice/Mathews/Bush/Ellington/Jennings? I haven't quite decided how I wanna go in that scenario when drafting late. Glad I still have over a week before my last three redraft leagues to decide what direction to go if I miss out on a top 5 selection.

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