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#1641 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:04 AM

So nothing as usual.


You're contradicting yourself. Yes that's "Something". Trump said there were no contacts, there were contacts. Trump said he had no Russian deals, he had a Russian deal.

#1642 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:05 AM

You misunderstand. We're entirely in favor of Mueller's discoveries on Obama's and Hillary's wrongdoings, particularly where they involve collusion with Ukrainian ne'erdowells.


Good luck with that.

#1643 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:09 AM

 
Last I heard, the meeting was to give Trump Jr. dirt on Hillary as a means of getting him there. Then the Russian lawyer changed gears and started asking about the Magnitsky Act. It was at that point people began looking for the door........exit stage right.
 
This was the same lawyer the Obama DOJ petitioned for to remain in the country. The same lawyer who worked with Fusion GPS to lobby against the Magnitsky Act. You remember Fusion GPS right? Commissioner of the Dossier. And the Dossier point man Christopher Steele was approached by the aforementioned FBI to continue anti-Trump research. Now the FBI is blocking two of their people from talking about Fusion GPS. Curious.........very curious. Add to that the unprecedented unmasking and well, it seems some illegal activity was occurring.
 
You bet there's more to that meeting than we've been told however it might not point at Team Trump but the Obama administration.


Glenn Simpson has given more hours of testimony than anyone else.

The FBI issue has been discussed, there isn't a criminal investigation from Paducah to D.C. which has allowed investigators to divulge details of criminal investigations since forever. If you believe in investigating the investigators because you think they're the 'bad guys' you should sign up for BLM because they're the only ones who think like that.

#1644 IMMensaMind

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:34 AM

Good luck with that.


Equal luck in all investigations.

#1645 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 12:05 PM

Equal luck in all investigations.


Uhm ok yes good luck with all investigations that are underway.

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 01:46 PM

I really feel badly for the 7 or 8 guys around here that are waiting desperately for Alex Jones and Hannity to tell them what to think.

Hands down, the most corrupt Administration ever. It's one thing for one guy to forget to log a Russia contact one time. But when seemingly the entire f****** White House and the entire f****** cabinet does the same thing repeatedly? These jackasses think they're above the rules. And sadly, Trump will spend most of his political career pardoning these jackasses.
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#1647 IMMensaMind

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 03:20 PM

I really feel badly for the 7 or 8 guys around here that are waiting desperately for Alex Jones and Hannity to tell them what to think.
Hands down, the most corrupt Administration ever. It's one thing for one guy to forget to log a Russia contact one time. But when seemingly the entire f****** White House and the entire f****** cabinet does the same thing repeatedly? These jackasses think they're above the rules. And sadly, Trump will spend most of his political career pardoning these jackasses.


You couldn't argue you way out of a wet paper bag. Every post you offer is just verbal diarrhea filled with baseless nonsense.

#1648 Baker Boy

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 02:25 PM

Senate investigators have hit a wall seeking origin of salacious anti-Trump dossier
http://www.foxnews.c...mp-dossier.html
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:33 PM

 

Senate investigators have hit a wall seeking origin of salacious anti-Trump dossier
http://www.foxnews.c...mp-dossier.html

 


They can't substantiate it anymore than the MSM could. You know the Dems and MSM threw a focking cargo ship full of cash at trying to prove it was true yet came up snake eyes.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 09:51 PM

Any day now....

They'll clear the President of the United States of conspiring with the Soviets in an effort targeting Americans any day now. Maybe tomorrow even.
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:00 PM

You couldn't argue you way out of a wet paper bag. Every post you offer is just verbal diarrhea filled with baseless nonsense.


Meaning, you can't refute a single thing I just said. You are quickly fixing to become the fastest person to jump on my ignore list ever. You add no value and you think you're baiting people when we all know you're just a f****** troll. Just like magnificent troubadour, Absolutely not worth my time.
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:03 PM

Meaning, you can't refute a single thing I just said. You are quickly fixing to become the fastest person to jump on my ignore list ever. You add no value and you think you're baiting people when we all know you're just a f****** troll. Just like magnificent troubadour, Absolutely not worth my time.


Good. Get lost.

#1653 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:31 AM

Senate investigators have hit a wall seeking origin of salacious anti-Trump dossier
http://www.foxnews.c...mp-dossier.html


That's not really Congress' job or mission here.

It's Mueller's.
https://www.nbcnews....dossier-n808221

#1654 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 07:34 AM

They can't substantiate it anymore than the MSM could. You know the Dems and MSM threw a focking cargo ship full of cash at trying to prove it was true yet came up snake eyes.

 

What about the attempts at real estate deals and the offer of dirt on Hillary? Those are at least two hat have panned out.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:05 PM

Well, a team of over a dozen lawyers who are anti trump and want him removed from office still cant find a link after almost a year of work. Are they bad lawyers or just taking advantage of taxpayer money?
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:59 PM

Well, a team of over a dozen lawyers who are anti trump and want him removed from office still cant find a link after almost a year of work. Are they bad lawyers or just taking advantage of taxpayer money?

 

A campaign that spent over a billion dollars and would do anything to expose trump could only find a old recording of trump saying grab them by the puzzy. They were so desperate they made their followers believe he meant it literally. 

 

Trump is probably one of the cleanest presidents we have ever had.


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#1657 Filthy Fernadez

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:07 PM

 

A campaign that spent over a billion dollars and would do anything to expose trump could only find a old recording of trump saying grab them by the puzzy. They were so desperate they made their followers believe he meant it literally. 

 

Trump is probably one of the cleanest presidents we have ever had.

 

I've stated as much about the Dossier. You know the Dems and media spent MILLIONS trying to verify that sh!t and came up blank. 

 

Now they got Mueller desperately looking around going back years and STILL drawing a blank.  :bench:


BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

On the bright side, the whole Russian thing pales in comparison to the fact that Trump so f****** stupid that he wants to increase our nuclear weapons tenfold.

Now he's got his whole cabinet terrified of this unstable lunatic.

Which is why his secretary of state called him a f****** moron.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:11 PM

According to CNN Russia meddled with pokemon Go.  The bastards.


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#1660 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 05:36 AM

 

 
Trump is probably one of the cleanest presidents we have ever had.

I'm just curious how you incorporate Trump being in business with Felix Sater and Aris Agalarov into this statement? Australia denied Trump his casino applications because of his mob connections. Or that his campaign manager was $60 million in debt to Deripaska, a top Russian oligarch, who was also his business partner?

Do you just ignore these things or you think we've seen worse from presidents?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 06:12 AM

Well, a team of over a dozen lawyers who are anti trump and want him removed from office still cant find a link after almost a year of work. Are they bad lawyers or just taking advantage of taxpayer money?


What's the typical length of time for international money laundering and espionage investigations?

#1662 drobeski

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 06:45 AM

The pokeyman did it

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 07:11 AM

I'm just curious how you incorporate Trump being in business with Felix Sater and Aris Agalarov into this statement? Australia denied Trump his casino applications because of his mob connections. Or that his campaign manager was $60 million in debt to Deripaska, a top Russian oligarch, who was also his business partner?

Do you just ignore these things or you think we've seen worse from presidents?

 

More like fake news.


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#1664 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:01 AM

 

More like fake news.

 

You think that those reports are lies? Is that right? None of those things ever happened?



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:42 AM

 

You think that those reports are lies? Is that right? None of those things ever happened?

 

Maybe they did maybe they didn't Maybe they happened in a way that you don't know.

 

What I do know is it's been over a year and we still don't have anything to show other than wasted tax dollars. Maybe your Russia narrative hacked pokemon go.  Maybe russia bought 300k in facebook ads that swayed the election to trump despite Hillary spending well over a billion. 

 

Here's what I do know. The stock market is up. There are more REAL jobs created every month, he is fixing Obama care, fixing unchecked immigration and the pedos and rapist are running scared. Speaking of pedos and rapist Democrats are so scared they are shooting congressmen and mass attacks on a people who they perceive support trump. Hillary and her campaign people had far closer ties to russia than Trump has ever had. We also know Bill Clinton is a rapist.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:53 AM

 
Maybe they did maybe they didn't Maybe they happened in a way that you don't know.
 
What I do know is it's been over a year and we still don't have anything to show other than wasted tax dollars. Maybe your Russia narrative hacked pokemon go.  Maybe russia bought 300k in facebook ads that swayed the election to trump despite Hillary spending well over a billion. 
 
Here's what I do know. The stock market is up. There are more REAL jobs created every month, he is fixing Obama care, fixing unchecked immigration and the pedos and rapist are running scared. Speaking of pedos and rapist Democrats are so scared they are shooting congressmen and mass attacks on a people who they perceive support trump. Hillary and her campaign people had far closer ties to russia than Trump has ever had. We also know Bill Clinton is a rapist.

Well I think it's fair to say you have an open mind pending the criminal investigation, I'd agree with that. That's how those reports get sorted out. For instance Mueller just interviewed Preibus so they are doing that.

You've got a real kitchen sink there, but in my opinion every criminal investigation takes time. Mueller has been on the job since May, this is a fairly short time for an investigation involving these allegations and complexity. So I'd agree with you that we should wait but it's contradictory to say they should be finished by now.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:55 AM

Well I think it's fair to say you have an open mind pending the criminal investigation, I'd agree with that. That's how those reports get sorted out. For instance Mueller just interviewed Preibus so they are doing that.

You've got a real kitchen sink there, but in my opinion every criminal investigation takes time. Mueller has been on the job since May, this is a fairly short time for an investigation involving these allegations and complexity. So I'd agree with you that we should wait but it's contradictory to say they should be finished by now.

 

Takes time... How long does it take? Let me guess as long as it has to. 


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#1668 SaintsInDome2006

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 10:07 AM

 

Takes time... How long does it take? Let me guess as long as it has to. 

 

Money laundering investigations can take 2-3 years, campaign finance crimes maybe a year and a half, espionage can take years. On the other hand they have been tracking Manafort for some time so maybe they're ahead of the curve. My guess is if they cave down on someone fairly quickly it will be Manafort. Then it will continue into 2018 as they either get people to flip or go to trial. The one exception is they could come back with a statement of no indictments for anyone it will be before the end of the year.



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 10:12 AM

It's not hard to figure out how long these things can take. Abscam started in March 1978 and didn't have a conviction until May 1981. That's just an example.



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:11 AM

 
Money laundering investigations can take 2-3 years, campaign finance crimes maybe a year and a half, espionage can take years. On the other hand they have been tracking Manafort for some time so maybe they're ahead of the curve. My guess is if they cave down on someone fairly quickly it will be Manafort. Then it will continue into 2018 as they either get people to flip or go to trial. The one exception is they could come back with a statement of no indictments for anyone it will be before the end of the year.

all this nonsense because of sore losing

Do you think there would be an investigation into this nonsense if Hillary had won ?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:57 AM

all this nonsense because of sore losing

Do you think there would be an investigation into this nonsense if Hillary had won ?

 

Maybe not, but I will tell you why I think that - a good part of this is about what Flynn and Kushner did after the election in making Russian contacts. A big part of this is the allegation that the Russians provided help in return for affecting policy; without that piece I don't think Trump would be in the trouble that he is in. - The June 2016 Don Jr. meeting and the Manafort connections would still be under investigation though, IMO.



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 12:04 PM

 
Maybe not, but I will tell you why I think that - a good part of this is about what Flynn and Kushner did after the election in making Russian contacts. A big part of this is the allegation that the Russians provided help in return for affecting policy; without that piece I don't think Trump would be in the trouble that he is in. - The June 2016 Don Jr. meeting and the Manafort connections would still be under investigation though, IMO.

he's not in trouble?
What are the charges against Donald?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:31 PM

he's not in trouble?
What are the charges against Donald?

I guess we'll find out. But he is under investigation.. And since everyone surrounding him seems to be involved, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the administration's ringleader probably knows a little bit about it. Stay tuned.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:45 PM

he's not in trouble?
What are the charges against Donald?


His campaign is under criminal investigation. If you're the head of an organization under investigation by the FBI you're in trouble. Like I said I'm happy to await the results of the investigation.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:32 PM

His campaign is under criminal investigation. If you're the head of an organization under investigation by the FBI you're in trouble. Like I said I'm happy to await the results of the investigation.

what charge ? Law broken ?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:34 PM

what charge ? Law broken ?

holy fock you're dumb.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:44 PM

holy fock you're dumb.

crushing Hillary's dreams is illegal ?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

holy fock you're dumb.

Why are you still allowed here?



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:39 PM

Why are you still allowed here?

why wouldn't I be?

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:58 PM

On the bright side, the whole Russian thing pales in comparison to the fact that Trump so f****** stupid that he wants to increase our nuclear weapons tenfold.

Now he's got his whole cabinet terrified of this unstable lunatic.

Which is why his secretary of state called him a f****** moron.

 

fake story

 

Mattis confirmed it was never said

 

however MSNBC ran a story about increasing nukes 10 fold from a double anonymous resource's 2nd cousin on his neighbor's friends side


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