Kidney stones

[Fireballer 2,381]

Fuk me! I spent about 6 hours in the ER this AM with a stone. This is my 4th in the past 12 years. They dont get any better. This is the first time Ive actually puked from pain being so intense, and I nearly passed out. It felt like an out of body experience. I was like a new man after Dilaudid.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Should've just rode Thunder Mountain.

 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I get them periodically as well. My first one was so bad that I was puking and went to the ER. They were going to take out my appendix.

 

Now I get them and can tell that they are going to be a problem, but I end up drinking a ton of water and eventually pass them. Not fun, but better than surgery.

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Woof... no way man. I saw my good friend and co-worker go through that a few months ago. No gracias. No bueno.

[Djgb13 2,338]

Never had them and never want them. Like trying to piss out a glass shard. FOCK that noise

[Fireballer 2,381]

Never had them and never want them. Like trying to piss out a glass shard. FOCK that noise

Thats the easy part, for me anyway. Getting it from your kidney to your bladder is what almost kills you.

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Had a kidney ultrasound last month. Said I have two stones in there, but they are nowhere near a uhhhh tube, so they would not be blocking anything in the future. Sweet!

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Had one lodged. Lithotripsy didn't work. After 4 days of agony I call the doc and he says I'll meet you at the hospital. 8 hours later surgically removed. He kind of freaked out, so I guess he was scared. Spent 4 days in the hospital.

[Fireballer 2,381]

Had one lodged. Lithotripsy didn't work. After 4 days of agony I call the doc and he says I'll meet you at the hospital. 8 hours later surgically removed. He kind of freaked out, so I guess he was scared. Spent 4 days in the hospital.

Had to be fukin brutal. That stone is esentially keeping urine blocked from the bladder. Thats no good for 4 days.

[Cdub100 3,380]

Please God I never want one.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

My father and sister have both had them. So I likely will some day.

 

I asked my dads doctor if there is anything you can do to lessen the chance. He recommended lemonade therapy. Real lemonade, not the fake crap. Apparently the acid helps dissolve them or keep them from forming.

 

So I try to make that from time to time. There used to be a place across the street from me that sold homemade lemonade.

 

Hey, he didnt say anything about not putting vodka in it.

[posty 2,296]

I have never had one... I guess I have been lucky so far...

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

My father and sister have both had them. So I likely will some day.

 

I asked my dads doctor if there is anything you can do to lessen the chance. He recommended lemonade therapy. Real lemonade, not the fake crap. Apparently the acid helps dissolve them or keep them from forming.

 

So I try to make that from time to time. There used to be a place across the street from me that sold homemade lemonade.

 

Hey, he didnt say anything about not putting vodka in it.

I think there are different kinds - calcium, uric acid amongst others. The type will determine some avoidance options from what I have been told.

[Fireballer 2,381]

I think there are different kinds - calcium, uric acid amongst others. The type will determine some avoidance options from what I have been told.

This. I have calcium oxolate stones. Unfortunately, lots of healthy foods contain oxolates. I had a stone about 3 months into a very effective Paleo stint. Every part of my bloodwork was pristine, but unbeknownst to me at the time, spinach and almonds are high oxolate foods.Oops. I was doing the lemon juice in water thing for a while too, but it was starting to fuk up my tooth enamel.

[penultimatestraw 473]

My father and sister have both had them. So I likely will some day.

 

I asked my dads doctor if there is anything you can do to lessen the chance. He recommended lemonade therapy. Real lemonade, not the fake crap. Apparently the acid helps dissolve them or keep them from forming.

 

So I try to make that from time to time. There used to be a place across the street from me that sold homemade lemonade.

 

Hey, he didnt say anything about not putting vodka in it.

You need to keep hydrated. Limit salt intake as well. For the most common type of stones, limiting animal protein intake in favor of fruits and veggies is also recommended.

Regardless of the underlying etiology and drug treatment of the stone disease, patients should be instructed to increase their water intake in order to maintain a urine output of at least 2 liter per day [49]. A simple and most important lifestyle change to prevent stone disease is to drink more water/liquids. Enough fluid intake reduces urinary saturation and dilutes promoters of CaOx crystallization. Dietary recommendations should be adjusted based on individual metabolic abnormalities. For absorptive hyperoxaluria, low oxalate diet and increased dietary calcium intake are recommended [61].

 

A high sodium intake boosts stone risk by reducing renal tubular calcium reabsorption and increasing urinary calcium [105]. Restriction of animal proteins is also encouraged since animal proteins provide an increased acid load because of its high content of sulfur-containing amino acids. Thus, high protein intake reduces urine pH and the level of citrate and enhances urinary calcium excretion via bone reabsorption. Therefore, if you have very acidic urine, you may need to eat less meat, fish, and poultry and avoid food with vitamin D [106]. Instead, an increase intake of fruits and vegetables rich in potassium is recommended [49].

People who form calcium stones used to be told to avoid dairy products and other foods with high calcium content. However, persons with a tendency of kidney stone formation should not be advised to restrict calcium intake unless it has been known that he/she has an excessive use of calcium [107]. A reduced intake of calcium leads to an increased intestinal absorption of oxalate, which itself may account for an increased risk of stone formation. Calcium supplements may reduce oxalate absorption because the calcium binds dietary oxalate in the gut lumen. However, the benefit of taking calcium pills is controversial. Vitamin C has been implicated in stone formation because of in vivo conversion of ascorbic acid to oxalate. Therefore, a limitation of vitamin C supplementation is recommended

In other words, drink enough water and eat a healthy plant-based diet. One of many reasons the high protein fad is misguided.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I think there are different kinds - calcium, uric acid amongst others. The type will determine some avoidance options from what I have been told.

This is true, but ~80% are calcium stones. Uric acid are 5-10%. Keeping hydrated and limiting animal proteins works for both of these stone types. The other major type, struvite, is associated with urinary tract infections which must be treated as well.

 

For calcium oxalate specifically, a few healthy foods should also be avoided: nuts, spinach, beets, rhubarb, bran flakes.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

You need to keep hydrated. Limit salt intake as well. For the most common type of stones, limiting animal protein intake in favor of fruits and veggies is also recommended.

In other words, drink enough water and eat a healthy plant-based diet. One of many reasons the high protein fad is misguided.

Hydrated I do well.

 

Salt I do pretty well. I have never even owned a salt shaker, although a lot of this chink food is salty.

 

Plant based diet? No way. Animals taste far better.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Hydrated I do well.

 

Salt I do pretty well. I have never even owned a salt shaker, although a lot of this chink food is salty.

 

Plant based diet? No way. Animals taste far better.

So far, so good, I guess. FWIW obesity is also a risk factor.

[MDC 5,890]

So far, so good, I guess. FWIW obesity is also a risk factor.

Titans lost a ton of weight if I remember correctly.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

This is true, but ~80% are calcium stones. Uric acid are 5-10%. Keeping hydrated and limiting animal proteins works for both of these stone types. The other major type, struvite, is associated with urinary tract infections which must be treated as well.

 

For calcium oxalate specifically, a few healthy foods should also be avoided: nuts, spinach, beets, rhubarb, bran flakes.

 

Right. The typical recommendation is drink a ton of water. I can pretty much trace my stones to times that I was not as hydrated as I should be. Drinking things like iced tea don't count for they hydration for me and contribute to the problem.

 

Heck, I got sent to a endocrinologist to see if I had an issue and that vampire wanted to take out a parathyroid gland. I told her that I will stick to the water instead.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Titans lost a ton of weight if I remember correctly.

Yeah, Ive gained some back. Not all, not even half, but some.

 

Here in a month we leave for a month and a half. Wedding and honeymoon and such.

 

When I get back, we move to an apartment on campus. There is a gym, a pool, badminton and basketball courts... Im gonna focus on getting fitter. Try to hit a new low weight wise.

[El Barton 8]

I've passed 2 bigger stones...not fun...the last one took almost a week to pass...toradol and flowmax are your friends.

 

As others have said, reduce salt and increase water. Also cut out processed meat (like hot dogs), and cut out things like coffee and tea. Nothing will dissolve a stone, but these steps will keep them from forming/growing.