The Hunter 0 Posted September 27, 2006 standard scoring (point per ten rec/rush yards), no ppr starting lineup: qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, rb/wr, te, def, k my team: qb - chad pennington, mark brunell rb - shaun alexander, clinton portis, maurice morris, ladell betts, brandon jacobs, jerious norwood wr - darrell jackson, t.j. houshmandzadeh, joey galloway, jerricho cotchery, aaron moorehead (may start instead of wayne) te - l.j. smith def - dallas cowboys k - josh brown (have a waiver wire bid on david akers) his team: qb - donovan mcnabb, charlie frye, steve mcnair rb - ladainian tomlinson, warrick dunn, michael turner, stephen davis, maurice drew wr - chad johnson, derrick mason, lee evans, keyshawn johnson, antwaan randle el te - ben watson def - baltimore ravens k - neil rackers he has proposed that i trade him clinton portis for chad johnson and warrick dunn. i countered with clinton portis, chad pennington and l.j. smith for chad johnson, warrick dunn, donovan mcnabb and ben watson. should i take either deal, or sit tight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beyond Chaos 75 Posted September 28, 2006 I like both trades for you, the second gives you a better qb. Portis played well last week so he's at a higher value, but his tendency to get injured is a bit worrisome. I would make either trade taking the second 1st but being just as happy with the 1st trade. JMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkros42 0 Posted September 28, 2006 id do either prolly... betts will be sharing time w portis ... dunn will have solid running games every week mine: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=238325 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 i've also been offered a deal by the following team (deal 3): his team: qb - matt hasselbeck, trent green rb - chester taylor, fred taylor, lamont jordan, travis henry, chris brown, mewelde moore wr - larry fitgerald, reggie brown, troy williamson, berdnard berrian, doug gabriel te - jason witten def - st. louis rams k - shayne graham should i trade clinton portis, maurice morris and t.j. houshmandzadeh for chester taylor, larry fitzgerald and fred taylor? or should i take one of the original two deals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rottytiny 7 Posted September 28, 2006 I like third deal, you get Fitz and 2 starting RBs for Portis and TJ plus Morris. You give up a backup and #2 Wr with Portis for 2 starting RBs and a top 5 WR, I'd say do it now. Only downside to the trade is if Alexander is out for awhilw or gets hurt again you'll have to rely on Freddy a little more. I think Chester will be solid in the Vike offense all year plus no RBBC. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyg 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I like third deal, you get Fitz and 2 starting RBs for Portis and TJ plus Morris. You give up a backup and #2 Wr with Portis for 2 starting RBs and a top 5 WR, I'd say do it now. Only downside to the trade is if Alexander is out for awhilw or gets hurt again you'll have to rely on Freddy a little more. I think Chester will be solid in the Vike offense all year plus no RBBC. Good luck. I concur.. the 3rd deal is best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 what makes it better than the deal where i get mcnabb, chad johnson and warrick dunn, though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rileyspoppa 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I would honestly only give up Portis for something good. I would only take that counter offer that you gave. To me, the others arent offering enough for Portis. I think he showed that he's healthy enough to play last week. Help with mine, please. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=237990 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ggroovy17 0 Posted September 28, 2006 If you can get McNabb, Johnson, and Dunn that would be most beneficial for your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frogfan 0 Posted September 28, 2006 don't see your counter getting accepted...thus #3 is the best deal...assuming you think Fragile Freddy will stay healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JakeinTX 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I would absolutely take either of the first two deals if you can still get them. Not as keen on the third deal but I also have a bias against the Fragile One. Separately, what are you hunting? Dove season here in TX was just average. Good luck with your trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcgator 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Of the 3 deals, #2 is a slam dunk- McNabb is a nice upgrade at your weakest position.. #3 is a toss-up- I don't think you're getting fair value there for Portis at RB but you are definitely improving at WR... deal #1 I would not do under any circumstances.. Johnson has diasppointed a bit (while Housh and Henry have excelled) and while Dunn is a nice RB, he's no Portis.... I think your WR core as is can win, so for me it's #2 and maybe #3... kmgator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobpate17 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I like deal #2. give u upgrade at WR and QB. dunn will do good this season. he will have more td compare to last year. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=238438 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electricrelish 0 Posted September 28, 2006 The second deal is an incredible deal and he would be a fool to give it to you. However, I also like the first deal. Go for that. I don't like the third deal at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miamidirtysouth 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I wouldnt do the first at all. But the second deal is gold if you could get it. If he does accept the second one it might be vetoed though. To huge not to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beef Ravioli 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Go for deal #3 thanks for mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go long 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Hold off to see if he accepts your counter. This is better for you but he would be crazy to accept. Just a matter of time before Penny goes lame in the shoulder and Smith seems to be always hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 this is getting tougher and tougher. i've been sold on taking all three proposals to some degree, or staying put. i look at it like this, now, having to decide which starting roster is the best and most effective one when alexander comes back. team one (stay put): chad pennington, shaun alexander, clinton portis, darrell jackson, t.j. houshmandzadeh, joey galloway, l.j. smith team two (deal one): chad pennington, shaun alexander, warrick dunn, chad johnson, darrell jackson, t.j. houshmandzadeh, l.j. smith team three (deal two): donovan mcnabb, shaun alexander, warrick dunn, chad johnson, darrell jackson, joey galloway, ben watson team four (deal three): chad pennington, shaun alexander, chester taylor, fred taylor, larry fitzgerland, t.j. houshmandzadeh, l.j. smith all things considered, team four looks to be the most evenly balanced team and consistently competitively high-scoring team. team one looks to be the most explosive, but could have some games where the flex, galloway, gives us nothing. team two is barely behind two four in terms of consistent and competitive scoring, giving me three stud-level wideouts. team three is very top heavy, but flex and tight end aren't too strong. any other thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElkHunter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I like trade two the most but would take either trade two or three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Climax 0 Posted September 28, 2006 The first option looks good for you, but if he goes for your counter offer then he's an idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chitown81 0 Posted September 28, 2006 if he goes for the counteroffer, i dont think you can pass that up, replacing pennington is a big bonus. i dont like the 1st deal, the 3rd could go either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enjoi525 0 Posted September 28, 2006 despite that you are week at qb, if you trade portis you will be very weak at RB and I dont think you want that. I wouldn't do those trades. Dunn hasnt been reaching the endzone so you wont be gett big points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdbomb 5 Posted September 28, 2006 When Portis is healthly, i put him in the top4. I wouldn't do those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombass 0 Posted September 28, 2006 i like the first two,and iff you could get mcnabb all the better.stay away from the 3rd one i don't think it's anyway near the first two offers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 team 1 has formally proposed the following trade: chad johnson, keyshawn johnson and warrick dunn for clinton portis and ladell betts what do you think of this deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted September 29, 2006 thanks for answering mine: I would not do that trade. you need portis while SA is out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 29, 2006 but completing one of these trades gives me more depth and trade bait. also, next week, clinton will be my only running back essentially, since morris/alexander is gone and i only have back-ups. also, if clinton gets hurt, i have nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melvinbet 5 Posted September 29, 2006 Team 3 (Deal 2) Looks the best to me. Here's mine - It's Quick and Easy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjsks 0 Posted September 29, 2006 I don't know who would take that counter offer, but if you got a guy, do it. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=238414 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hunter 0 Posted September 29, 2006 what are opinions on the latest offer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TXYankee 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Don't think the latest deal is worth it. Marginal upgrade at WR for a drop in #2 back quality. If the team is dumb enough to accept your initial counter, take it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 29, 2006 deals 1 adn 2 seem fine.. but you already appear ok at WR...why give up a stud RB in portis for just decency in Dunn. And why would that guy give up his only real WR for Portis? You can play 3 RBs...and after SA and Portis...you are extremely weak. (though I have not read how many teams in the league...so you may be fine...if larger than 12...sorry). The 3rd one sounded better in getting Chester and Fred...but with Drew looking good, that would worry me a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNudd 0 Posted September 29, 2006 id take deal 2. deal 1 is okay, but then you'd need to make a move to get rid of TJ cuz you dont want 2 rec on the same team. plus you get mcnabb in deal 2. mine http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=238832 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c_Weezie 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Deal 2. Thanks for replying to mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites