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Once again we've come to that time of the year where most of you knuckledraggers change your clocks forward by one hour, in a feeble attempt to change the space/time continuum. I predict that in about 6 months you'll give up and change it back, like you have every year in the past.

 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

A wise old Arizona Indian chief once said regarding DST, "Only a white man would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket and sew it to the bottom of a blanket and have a longer blanket."

 

:cheers:

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They still don't do it in Arizona?

Nope. Actually, there may be a county up north that does. Most of the state for sure doesn't.

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Nope. Actually, there may be a county up north that does. Most of the state for sure doesn't.

 

It's the stupidest thing we do in America....besides Jersey Shore marathons.

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Once again we've come to that time of the year where most of you knuckledraggers change your clocks forward by one hour, in a feeble attempt to change the space/time continuum. I predict that in about 6 months you'll give up and change it back, like you have every year in the past.

 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

A wise old Arizona Indian chief once said regarding DST, "Only a white man would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket and sew it to the bottom of a blanket and have a longer blanket."

 

:cheers:

:thumbsup:

 

And aside from Daylight Savings, as far as i'm concerned, it should always be the same time Worldwide. :lol:

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It's just a jump to the left

And then a step to the right :headbanger:

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Nope. Actually, there may be a county up north that does. Most of the state for sure doesn't.

 

Ironically, given your wise old Indian story, the Navajo Nation community is the only place in the state that observes.

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[ quote name=Little Rusty' date='11 March 2012 - 04:58 PM' timestamp='1331484989' post='4714364]

:thumbsup:

 

And aside from Daylight Savings, as far as i'm concerned, it should always be the same time Worldwide. :lol:

. Its Daylight saving time, fyi. (No "s")

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I have to admit, up north daylight savings is nice. In the summer it would get light at 3:30 AM and in the winter it would get dark at 4 PM if we didnt change our clocks.

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I still have yet to figure out how DST saves energy. And every single person I've asked this can't explain it either. In the summer, it stays light later, which wouldn't that mean we have to keep our air conditioners running higher/longer because there are more awake hours with sunlight (heat) than there would be if we left the clocks alone.

 

I don't get it. :wall:

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I still have yet to figure out how DST saves energy. And every single person I've asked this can't explain it either. In the summer, it stays light later, which wouldn't that mean we have to keep our air conditioners running higher/longer because there are more awake hours with sunlight (heat) than there would be if we left the clocks alone.

 

I don't get it. :wall:

We've been through this before. Let me start by saying the energy savings are controversial. But you are assuming the energy used for AC (not needed everywhere) exceeds that saved by less lighting and small appliance use. But it's not all about the energy:
A poll conducted by the U.S. Department of Transportation indicated that Americans liked Daylight Saving Time because "there is more light in the evenings / can do more in the evenings." A 1976 survey of 2.7 million citizens in New South Wales, Australia, found 68% liked daylight saving. Indeed, some say that the primary reason that Daylight Saving Time is a part of many societies is simply because people like to enjoy long summer evenings, and that reasons such as energy conservation are merely rationalizations.

 

According to some sources, DST saves energy. Studies done by the U.S. Department of Transportation in 1975 showed that Daylight Saving Time trims the entire country's electricity usage by a small but significant amount, about one percent each day, because less electricity is used for lighting and appliances. Similarly, in New Zealand, power companies have found that power usage decreases 3.5 percent when daylight saving starts. In the first week, peak evening consumption commonly drops around five percent.

 

The rationale behind the 1975 study of DST-related energy savings was that energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting homes is directly related to the times when people go to bed at night and rise in the morning. In the average home, 25 percent of electricity was used for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurred in the evening when families were home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, the amount of electricity consumed each day decreased.

 

In the summer, people who rose before the sun rises used more energy in the morning than if DST were not in effect. However, although 70 percent of Americans rose before 7:00 a.m., this waste of energy from having less sunlight in the morning was more than offset by the savings of energy that results from more sunlight in the evening.

 

In the winter, the afternoon Daylight Saving Time advantage is offset for many people and businesses by the morning's need for more lighting. In spring and fall, the advantage is generally less than one hour. So, the rationale was that Daylight Saving Time saves energy for lighting in all seasons of the year, but it saves least during the four darkest months of winter (November, December, January, and February), when the afternoon advantage is offset by the need for lighting because of late sunrise.

 

In addition, less electricity was thought to be used because people are home fewer hours during the "longer" days of spring and summer. Most people plan outdoor activities in the extra daylight hours. When people are not at home, they don't turn on the appliances and lights.

 

Although a 1976 report by the National Bureau of Standards disputed the 1975 U.S. Department of Transportation study, and found that DST-related energy savings were insignificant, the DOT study continued to influence decisions about Daylight Saving Time.

 

The argument in favor of saving energy swayed Indiana, where until 2005, only about 16 percent of counties observed Daylight Saving Time. Based on the DOT study, advocates of Indiana DST estimated that the state’s residents would save over $7 million in electricity costs each year. Now that Indiana has made the switch, however, researchers have found the opposite to be the case. Scientists from the University of California, Santa Barbara, compared energy usage over the course of three years in Indiana counties that switched from year-round Standard Time to DST. They found that Indianans actually spent $8.6 million more each year because of Daylight Saving Time, and increased emissions came with a social cost of between $1.6 million and $5.3 million per year. Commentators have theorized that the energy jump is due to the increased prevalence of home air conditioning over the past 40 years, in that more daylight toward the end of a summer’s day means that people are more likely to use their air conditioners when they come home from work.

 

However, the Indiana research findings don’t necessarily apply elsewhere. In cooler climates, for example, energy savings may well occur.

 

In addition, some argue that there is a public health benefit to Daylight Saving Time, as it decreases traffic accidents. Several studies in the U.S. and Great Britain have found that the DST daylight shift reduces net traffic accidents and fatalities by close to one percent. An increase in accidents in the dark mornings is more than offset by the evening decrease in accidents.

 

However, recent research indicates that pedestrian fatalities from cars soar at 6:00 p.m. during the weeks after clocks are set back in the fall. Walkers are three times as likely to be hit and killed by cars right after the switch than in the month before DST ends. Researchers from Carnegie Mellon University, who found a 186 percent jump in the risk of being killed by a car for every mile walked, speculate that drivers go through an adjustment period when dusk arrives earlier. Although the risk drops in the morning, because there are fewer pedestrians at 6:00 a.m., the lives saved in the morning don’t offset those lost in the evening.

 

This research corroborates a 2001 study by researchers at the University of Michigan, which found that 65 pedestrians were killed by car crashes in the week before DST ended, and 227 pedestrians were killed in the week following the end of DST.

 

There may also be an economic benefit to DST, as daylight evening hours encourage people to go out and shop, potentially spurring economic growth.

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Once again we've come to that time of the year where most of you knuckledraggers change your clocks forward by one hour, in a feeble attempt to change the space/time continuum. I predict that in about 6 months you'll give up and change it back, like you have every year in the past.

 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

A wise old Arizona Indian chief once said regarding DST, "Only a white man would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket and sew it to the bottom of a blanket and have a longer blanket."

 

:cheers:

Was I right or was I right?! You all gave up again. You always do. :wave:

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Turning back the clocks is patently retarded. Makes no sense and forces me to break out manuals to figure the rock out how to adjust the clocks.

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Extra hour of sunlight in the evening. :thumbsup: Time to clean the yard and get ready for grilling. :doublethumbsup:

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I always look forward to daylight savings time. Now I have enough time to get in 9 holes after work. :thumbsup:

 

 

I just looked up the sunset times this week. Phoenix has a 6:30 sunset and Houston has a 7:30 sunset. Because of daylight savings we have an extra hour in the evenings.

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I always look forward to daylight savings time. Now I have enough time to get in 9 holes after work. :thumbsup:

 

 

Phag

 

Oh you were talking about golf

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BTW - DST is NOT just an "American thing". Europe does it too. - But it's effed up - they change on a different day. Really messed us up when I worked for a Euro-based company.

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BTW - DST is NOT just an "American thing". Europe does it too. - But it's effed up - they change on a different day. Really messed us up when I worked for a Euro-based company.

Yep. My wife has a standing call with Germany every week. I looked it up; they change 3/31. You would think that in a global economy, all of your crazy time bandits could agree on a single date. :dunno:

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BTW - DST is NOT just an "American thing". Europe does it too. - But it's effed up - they change on a different day. Really messed us up when I worked for a Euro-based company.

I thought they used metric time?

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Turning back the clocks is patently retarded. Makes no sense and forces me to break out manuals to figure the rock out how to adjust the clocks.

 

Yes, because adding or subtracting an hour in your head is SOOOOOO hard!!!! ;)

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I thought they used metric time?

 

Ah, but they do. As in all things metric, it is a base-ten system. So, European clocks only have ten numbers. 10=noon or midnight, 5 = 6 o'clock. :bandana:

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Bump for you crazy time warpers. Better luck this year. :thumbsup:

You keep GFIAFP and we'll keep changing our clock. Fair tradeoff :thumbsup:

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A new Rasmussen poll shows that more Americans are tired of having to set their clocks forward and back an hour every year, but in Florida, residents may never have to change the time again.

 

The newly proposed Sunshine Protection Act would keep the state on daylight saving time permanently.

 

If Florida state Sen. Darren Soto's measure is passed, Florida would never "fall back," MyFoxOrlando.com reported. No more standard time for the Sunshine State.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/12/floridians-may-never-fall-back-again-with-sunshine-protection-act/%20?test=latestnews#ixzz2NQbvoTg5

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Maybe it's the libertarian in me, but I think it should be left up to the individual to set his or her clock the way he or she sees fit. For example, if I generally enjoy being awake while it's light out, then fine, 12:00 can be the traditional "noon". However if I'm a night owl, I may prefer 8 AM to come around at dusk. :thumbsup:

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Maybe it's the libertarian in me, but I think it should be left up to the individual to set his or her clock the way he or she sees fit. For example, if I generally enjoy being awake while it's light out, then fine, 12:00 can be the traditional "noon". However if I'm a night owl, I may prefer 8 AM to come around at dusk. :thumbsup:

 

How is that libertarian? :dunno:

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I like the spring forward deal because now I don't get home in the dark.

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F**k DST. Worked 17.5 hours in the ER, had to be back 5 hours later thanks to losing the hour for daylight saving.

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How does this effect the island turning on LOST?

Set the donkey wheel back 3/8's

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Set the donkey wheel back 3/8's

Will the polar bears return or go back to being wolverines?

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When I first woke up this morning I was excited because I thought I'd managed to sleep in 'til 8 :mad:

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