fandandy 3,311 Posted May 25, 2016 We spend more on defense than the next 7 countries combined. WTF? We are run by fools, ...or thieves. http://www.pgpf.org/sites/default/files/0053_defense-comparison-full.gif http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/25/us-military-uses-8-inch-floppy-disks-to-coordinate-nuclear-force-operations.html The Defense Department's 1970s-era IBM Series/1 Computer and long-outdated floppy disks handle functions related to intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear bombers and tanker support aircraft, according to the new Governmental Accountability Office report. The department's outdated "Strategic Automated Command and Control System" is one of 10 of the oldest information technology investments or systems detailed in the sobering GAO report, which calls for a number of federal agencies "to address aging legacy systems." The report shows that creaky IT systems are being used to handle important functions related to the nation's taxpayers, federal prisoners and military veterans, as well as to the America's nuclear umbrella. "Federal legacy IT systems are becoming increasingly obsolete: Many use outdated software languages and hardware parts that are unsupported," the report found. "Agencies reported using several systems that have components that are, in some cases, at least 50 years old." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted May 25, 2016 on the bright side... better security... can't hack into those floppy discs... no Window10-Automatic-Update forcing a re-boot in the middle of a nuke launch. ... if we could just figure out how to launch with rope and pulley, catapults? the terrorists would be DED. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted May 25, 2016 no Window10-Automatic-Update forcing a re-boot in the middle of a nuke launch. computer shops are making a fortune right now because old people and clueless people are being taken over by windows 10 forced updates and they don't know how to stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,631 Posted May 26, 2016 I saw this on the national news about an hour ago. What isn't mentioned above Is the astronomical cost of maintaining an obsolete system.The reporter went into Best Buy and got a flash drive that had the capability of holding the data contained on something like 3000 of The floppy disks that are currently in use. The kids that come out of college Literally have to be dumbed down To be able to work for the Pentagon and other agencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 360 Posted May 26, 2016 computer shops are making a fortune right now because old people and clueless people are being taken over by windows 10 forced updates and they don't know how to stop it. That's not funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted May 26, 2016 Damn it, these aren't the launch codes...just the Oregon trail boot disk. Freaking dysentery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted May 26, 2016 Damn it, these aren't the launch codes...just the Oregon trail boot disk. Freaking dysentery. Would make a perfect The Far Side. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 644 Posted May 26, 2016 Is it named "Joshua"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted May 26, 2016 I saw this on the national news about an hour ago. What isn't mentioned above Is the astronomical cost of maintaining an obsolete system.The reporter went into Best Buy and got a flash drive that had the capability of holding the data contained on something like 3000 of The floppy disks that are currently in use. The kids that come out of college Literally have to be dumbed down To be able to work for the Pentagon and other agencies. I used to be assistant general counsel for the Tennessee treasury department. Among the various roles of the department were running the unclaimed property department, the investment division, and the Tennessee consolidated retirement system, for all state and local government employees. This obviously involves a massive amount of records. So we had a large records department. You know what that entailed? About twenty people working in a huge room full of microfilm. In 2012. If I needed a document, I had to fill out a form on paper, and give it to one of the monkeys. It usually took them a couple hours to find it. I pointed out once at a staff meeting that we could easily replace the whole damn records department with crap you can buy for peanuts at Best Buy, and run the whole thing with maybe two or three IT guys. That suggestion was ignored. They still put everything on microfilm to this day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 26, 2016 60 minutes did a story on this a couple of years ago. I am curious why it's being brought up now. Oh wait, it's cover for Hillary not using the proper e-mail. Good job media. Now wait for the story that she didn't want to use an antiquated system. It's the same system the state department uses. So f-ing transparent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted May 26, 2016 60 minutes did a story on this a couple of years ago. I am curious why it's being brought up now. Oh wait, it's cover for Hillary not using the proper e-mail. Good job media. Now wait for the story that she didn't want to use an antiquated system. It's the same system the state department uses. So f-ing transparent. Hmm, you might be on to something there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 26, 2016 Hmm, you might be on to something there. 60 minutes showed the Air Force techs down in the nuclear silos and they were pointing out how antiquated everything was. This was at least two years ago. I watch it every week. I think Leslie Stahl did the story. I'll try and look it up . Yup, it's from the April 27, 2014 show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 26, 2016 i dont see the issue. many times, if not most... older, simpler tech is more reliable. as long as it performs the intended duties, why should it matter how old it is? its not the same as saying the door on the building is so old its about to fall apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted May 26, 2016 3 1/2 or 5 1/4? In the 90's they were still using the 12 inchers.......I kid you not, I wonder if they still have them in play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 27, 2016 Insert Disc 2 to Continue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted May 27, 2016 Insert Disc 2 to Continue Oh hell yeah, and then the MS vs Netware versions battles in the mid-90's....a new friggin version of DOS ever damb month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted May 27, 2016 There's a hack where if you insert another disk at the right time in the booting process, you get double nuclear weapons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted May 27, 2016 There's a hack where if you insert another disk at the right time in the booting process, you get double nuclear weapons *Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.* *Eisenhower has joined the game.* *paTTon has joined the game.* *Churchill has joined the game.* *benny-tow has joined the game.* *T0J0 has joined the game.* *Roosevelt has joined the game.* *Stalin has joined the game.* *deGaulle has joined the game.* Roosevelt: hey sup T0J0: y0 Stalin: hi Churchill: hi Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks! paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks T0JO: lol Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression! benny-tow: haha america sux Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool? Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever Stalin: cool deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me Roosevelt: get antiair guns Churchill: i cant afford them benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is? paTTon: stfu Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army paTTon: yah hurry the fock up Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck *deGaulle has left the game.* Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k? benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair? benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head? Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u Hitler[AoE]: wtf Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me! T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol benny-tow: haha benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1 T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya Stalin: church help me Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here Stalin: dont be an arss Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late Eisenhower: LOL benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help Hitler: o man ur focked paTTon: oh what now biotch Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol *benny-tow has been eliminated.* benny-tow: lame Roosevelt: gj patton paTTon: thnx Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record Eisenhower: Nuts! benny~tow: wtf that mean? Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker Stalin: rofl T0J0: HAHAHHAA Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city *Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.* benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL Stalin: OMG LMAO! Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows *Hitler[AoE] has left the game* paTTon: hahahhah T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs benny~tow: shut up noob Roosevelt: haha wut a moron paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now? Eisenhower: yah me too T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol Eisenhower: fock u paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie Stalin: go to hell lol paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk Eisenhower: yah this is gay *Roosevelt has left the game.* Hitler[AoE]: wtf? Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join *tru_m4n has joined the game.* tru_m4n: hi all T0J0: hey Stalin: sup Churchill: hi tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff! tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets T0J0: wtf is nukes? T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****! *T0J0 has been eliminated.* *The Allied team has won the game!* Eisenhower: awesome! Churchill: gg noobs no re T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck *T0J0 has left the game.* *Eisenhower has left the game.* Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for **** Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss tru_m4n: l8r all benny~tow: bye Churchill: l8r Stalin: fock u all tru_m4n: shut up commie lol *tru_m4n has left the game.* benny~tow: lololol u commie Churchill: ROFL Churchill: bye commie *Churchill has left the game.* *benny~tow has left the game.* Stalin: i hate u all fags *Stalin has left the game.* paTTon: lol no1 is left paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep *paTTon has been eliminated.* paTTon: o sh1t! *paTTon has left the game.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted May 27, 2016 paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep *paTTon has been eliminated.* paTTon: o sh1t! *paTTon has left the game.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,555 Posted May 30, 2016 What's the matter with floppy disks? Haven't you guys seen Battlestar Galactica? Low tech floppy discs already saved humanity once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 30, 2016 *Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.* That is sheer genius. You didn't type that yourself, did you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted May 30, 2016 That is sheer genius. You didn't type that yourself, did you? This thing has been around a good ten years or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted May 31, 2016 The first space shuttle had a whopping 256k of memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,631 Posted May 31, 2016 SKIRRRRRR EEERRRRE WOOOOO... HELLO! YOU'VE GOT NUKES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,593 Posted May 31, 2016 This thing has been around a good ten years or more. It originally was on civilization forums I believe. There are better versions out there, although this one is not bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted June 1, 2016 It originally was on civilization forums I believe. There are better versions out there, although this one is not bad. Correct. Speaking of Civ.....they are coming out with a new version this fall, I am praying to god that it is not connected to steam.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted June 1, 2016 Correct. Speaking of Civ.....they are coming out with a new version this fall, I am praying to god that it is not connected to steam.... Good luck with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites