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One of my biggest fears is that California becomes such a shithole that all those loony focks decide to move east.

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These sites are "aimed at curbing the opioid epidemic". Yeah, ok. I wouldnt live in Cali if you bought me a house. Its unbelievable the level of personal responsibility that is being side stepped these days. Its so dangerous the level of dependency on big gubment that has become common place. But hey, keep growing it, it can save us from everything.

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One of my biggest fears is that California becomes such a shithole that all those loony focks decide to move east.

They did. And they call it Colorado.

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I saw where they decided to do this. Always thought it was a scam to where the cops would be busting people but then I remembered this is California. They hate cops. Dumbest thing ever. Sure lets ecourage illegal drug use

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California clearly couldn't care less if anybody living there is illegal or not.

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A whopping 46 percent of California Bay Area residents fed up with the region’s high cost of living and soaring home prices are planning to pack their bags and move out in the next few years, a poll has found.

 

The poll, conducted by the Bay Area Council, which describes itself as a business-sponsored, public policy advocacy organization, also found that homelessness and heavy traffic are among the things that most irk residents who live there.

 

“This is the trend we’ve been observing. Two years ago, it was 34 percent and last year it was 40,” the group’s president, Jim Wunderman, told KTVU about the increasing amount of those polled indicating that they want to get out.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/04/bay-area-exodus-nearly-50-percent-californians-say-want-to-move-out-soon-poll-finds.html

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It wasn't an earthquake that sunk California. Kiss it goodbye. It joins England, France,Germany and Sweden as once historic, safe places that commited suicide.

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I'm ok with the concept as long as it's not government money funding it. Everyone in this world knows what drugs can do and the people who carelessly and recklessly disregards the effects, has no right to government money to help get off of their habit.

 

If a business or healthcare facility wants to charge people for it, then have at it. You used your own money to screw you're life up, so it's your responsibility to use your money to fix it. I'm fully in favor of people looking for donations to help pay. I'm fully in favor of people putting up go fund me's and what not. If someone wants to help you out, great... but as I tax payer, I shouldn't be forced to help you. The government should not be using my tax dollars to service these ventures.

 

p.s., until California goes red, I will never like in that garbage state.

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The communist buffoon/ child DiBlasio wants to bring these sights to NYC. It's going to happen. Is this all the left has to offer? The subways in NYC are a disaster and there are homeless everywhere. Was not the case until he got elected by the fockin mid west and southern douche bag socialists that moved to Brooklyn.

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One of my biggest fears is that California becomes such a shithole that all those loony focks decide to move east.

What are some of your other fears? Trying to get some context around this.

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What are some of your other fears? Trying to get some context around this.

 

The idea is to keep all the loony left f##ktards in one spot to screw up ONLY that one spot. The last thing you want is an exodus of them infecting other parts of the country.

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The idea is to keep all the loony left f##ktards in one spot to screw up ONLY that one spot. The last thing you want is an exodus of them infecting other parts of the country.

That has nothing to do with what I asked him, but I appreciate you stepping in as the unofficial spokesdoosh of all things unrelated. :cheers:

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That has nothing to do with what I asked him, but I appreciate you stepping in as the unofficial spokesdoosh of all things unrelated. :cheers:

 

You got the bonus commentary. Consider yourself blessed.

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We run the whole country here in Cali, deal with it. You are Somalia without us propping the rest up.

 

Just left coast ish my potnas.

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We run the whole country here in Cali, deal with it. You are Somalia without us propping the rest up.

 

Just left coast ish my potnas.

 

Well, you and I don't.

 

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SAN DIEGO — A new report shows where Californians are moving after deciding to leave the state.


According to the Trulia report, a majority of Californians who leave the state are heading for sin city.


The report shows that more than 8 percent of those leaving coastal California cities are headed for Vegas, which has a median home price of $260,000.


Californians leaving the state also headed for places with growing job markets like Seattle, Denver, Dallas and Portland, Oregon.


According to the latest census data, in the year-span that ended July 2017, adding up the people moving into and out of California translates to a net loss of 138,000.


San Diego County also saw a net loss of 16,000 people during the same year. In the previous year, the county only saw a loss of 8,300 people.


Some of the other top cities Californians moved to include New York, Phoenix and Dallas.


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One of my biggest fears is that California becomes such a shithole that all those loony focks decide to move east.

The majority of us are not loony. It's just that the loony fvcks congregated to LA or San Fran. and given the media power of both, it makes the rest of us seem the same by assimilation.

 

Just sayin

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The majority of us are not loony. It's just that the loony fvcks congregated to LA or San Fran. and given the media power of both, it makes the rest of us seem the same by assimilation.

 

Just sayin

 

But here's the rub... California already did exactly what Trump and the current GOP leadership is doing now, in the mid 90's. We are the state that gave the country Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan after all.

 

I'm sure you remember... in the early 80's, the population of California was like 70 percent white. 1990, we had had shrunk to around 60 percent. Fearing our state was being taken over by minorities and immigrants we passed Prop 187, barring state funds going to support illegal immigrants in any way. Then we followed that up with Prop 209, barring affirmative action for helping minority students get into CA universities. Then it was Prop 227, making English the official language of California, and ending bilingual classes in public schools.

 

Like the Trump playbook, this was to invigorate the white base, and tap into rising anxieties of the white electorate, who believed CA was being taken over by immigrants (both legal and illegal). This success emboldened the Republican party, who continued to push this agenda. Then they deregulated the utility industry (sound familiar to net neutrality), gave tax breaks to all of the booming .COM companies and became even more ideological and less practical. This created complete gridlock between the two parties. Nothing got done. We couldn't even pass a budget. Californians got fed up, recalled Gray Davis and replaced him with a tough talking political outsider... The Governator! Now having consolidated their power, conservative representatives rushed to load the ballot with a bunch of far right initiatives, all of which were soundly rejected by a now majority "minority" and immigrant population 2 years later. That of course ushered in the progressive movement that we've seen dominate California for the last 15 years. And I don't see that changing any time soon (as much as I disagree with a lot of it, i.e. sanctuary cities and gun regulations).

 

Flash forward to 2008 and we have the Tea Party Movement, echoing everything Californians said in the mid 90's. Now we have the tough talking political outsider, peddling a bunch of the same rhetoric we heard here. But here's the problem... just like California, white people will be a minority in the USA within 25 years. We're having less children, but immigrants and minorities are having more children. Because of this, the Trump movement might work in the short term, but it's destined for long term failure, just like it was here in California..

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Blaming the degeneracy and failures of California on Republicans?

 

That is a new one.

 

I stated nothing of the sort. If you're interested in having an honest conversation about the shifting demographics of this country, and how it will impact the policies of the future... i'll be here.

 

I'm not interested in being part of the sho vs. team trump flame wars though. That's why I generally abstain from these threads in the first place. As a Californian, I felt I could place some historical context around this one though.

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I stated nothing of the sort. If you're interested in having an honest conversation about the shifting demographics of this country, and how it will impact the policies of the future... i'll be here.

 

I'm not interested in being part of the sho vs. team trump flame wars though. That's why I generally abstain from these threads in the first place. As a Californian, I felt I could place some historical context around this one though.

 

The problem with politics, well, politicians, is that too many are either on the far right or the far left and no where near enough in the middle. Both ends are the problem, the middle is where the solutions are but the problem is that the "middle" is shrinking because of the Leftist media. People in the middle are splitting further to the ends because there's too much hate by the media. Either they fall in line with the hate and move further left, or they push against it and move to the further right.

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The problem with politics, well, politicians, is that too many are either on the far right or the far left and no where near enough in the middle. Both ends are the problem, the middle is where the solutions are but the problem is that the "middle" is shrinking because of the Leftist media. People in the middle are splitting further to the ends because there's too much hate by the media. Either they fall in line with the hate and move further left, or they push against it and move to the further right.

Well put. The vast majority of this country is centrist, with perhaps a slight lean right or left. Instead of playing to the masses, politicians play to the lunatic fringe on their particular side of the aisle.

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But here's the rub... California already did exactly what Trump and the current GOP leadership is doing now, in the mid 90's. We are the state that gave the country Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan after all.

 

I'm sure you remember... in the early 80's, the population of California was like 70 percent white. 1990, we had had shrunk to around 60 percent. Fearing our state was being taken over by minorities and immigrants we passed Prop 187, barring state funds going to support illegal immigrants in any way. Then we followed that up with Prop 209, barring affirmative action for helping minority students get into CA universities. Then it was Prop 227, making English the official language of California, and ending bilingual classes in public schools.

 

Like the Trump playbook, this was to invigorate the white base, and tap into rising anxieties of the white electorate, who believed CA was being taken over by immigrants (both legal and illegal). This success emboldened the Republican party, who continued to push this agenda. Then they deregulated the utility industry (sound familiar to net neutrality), gave tax breaks to all of the booming .COM companies and became even more ideological and less practical. This created complete gridlock between the two parties. Nothing got done. We couldn't even pass a budget. Californians got fed up, recalled Gray Davis and replaced him with a tough talking political outsider... The Governator! Now having consolidated their power, conservative representatives rushed to load the ballot with a bunch of far right initiatives, all of which were soundly rejected by a now majority "minority" and immigrant population 2 years later. That of course ushered in the progressive movement that we've seen dominate California for the last 15 years. And I don't see that changing any time soon (as much as I disagree with a lot of it, i.e. sanctuary cities and gun regulations).

 

Flash forward to 2008 and we have the Tea Party Movement, echoing everything Californians said in the mid 90's. Now we have the tough talking political outsider, peddling a bunch of the same rhetoric we heard here. But here's the problem... just like California, white people will be a minority in the USA within 25 years. We're having less children, but immigrants and minorities are having more children. Because of this, the Trump movement might work in the short term, but it's destined for long term failure, just like it was here in California..

 

I agree, and then democrats came in and turned it all around, California was great for businesses in the 90's and 00's, violent crime was decreasing and the state was thriving, now its over

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I'm torn on this one. If these people are going to shoot up, they should have a safe place to do it. So long as there are counselors there to try and get them the help they need. Not all junkies, are worthless people that should die. Some are, definitely. Not all

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I agree, and then democrats came in and turned it all around, California was great for businesses in the 90's and 00's, violent crime was decreasing and the state was thriving, now its over

 

Crime (both violent and non-violent) is still decreasing in California. It's actually half of what it was in the mid 90's...

 

https://oag.ca.gov/crime

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I'm torn on this one. If these people are going to shoot up, they should have a safe place to do it. So long as there are counselors there to try and get them the help they need. Not all junkies, are worthless people that should die. Some are, definitely. Not all

So what happens when a guy gets caught with heroin and he says he's on his way to the legal shooting gallery? Also, who's neighborhood do these places get to go in?

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violent crime was reclassified as recently as last year

 

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-road-map-violent-crime-list-california-prisons-20180304-story.html

 

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Number-of-Violent-Inmates-Released-Under-Non-Violent-Parole-Program-Records-474234543.html

 

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/mar/06/jeff-stone/has-violent-crime-been-rise-california-2011-and-di/

 

http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article201464089.html

 

But this month, a Superior Court judge tentatively ruled that sex offenders must be considered for early releaseunder Prop. 57. If the ruling is made final, more than half of the 20,000 inmates now serving time for violent sex offenses could be back on the street.

That was the hidden flaw in Prop. 57. While it promised to keep violent offenders in prison, the list of crimes considered violent under California law is remarkably short. The list doesn’t include raping an unconscious person, or pimping a child, or beating a spouse. Clearly, few voters knew this.

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Ok, that could explain some slight deviations between violent and non-violent, but we're still talking a 50% overall reduction.

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So what happens when a guy gets caught with heroin and he says he's on his way to the legal shooting gallery? Also, who's neighborhood do these places get to go in?

 

He gets arrested, why would that be any different? and then gets released a few days later. What's different?

 

NIMBY!

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