GreenTD 56 Posted September 12, 2013 brah, week 2 these retards will be on new threads, such as but not limited to, 'Lamar Miller is the 2nd coming of walter payton!' or 'CJ Spiller can't hold Fred Jackson's jock, worst 1st round pick ever!' etcetcetc. That is 80% of this board, overreactions all day every day. Has been for years. Just gotta get through the retardedness and find the small pieces of info that will help you in the long run... I know, but every year I come back & hope it's gonna change... I'm a glutton for punishment. Think that's why the boreds are much more informative during the offseason than all the threads after week 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,062 Posted September 12, 2013 Duh. OK, I agree Graham is still the #1 TE. Except Graham cost a 2.5 pick in my league, where I got Cook at 11.7 and Cameron went at 15.5. It's all about value, and Graham at 2.5 is a poor value compared to the WR or RB that draft pick should get. To me, TE is kinda like QB, only with fewer points typically at stake. Most leagues only start one, and there is a tradeoff of taking the safe guy early vs. the risky guy late. The difference to me between the positions is that it seems like at TE you have guys who emerge (sometimes during the season) moreso than at QB. I got Myers and Heath Miller off of waivers last year for instance. As a result, I'm more willing to go early on QB then on TE. I tried rolling with Graham last year in a few leagues and hated it; I felt like I was chasing RB/WR the rest of the draft. This year I've got Cameron in two of my three leagues and I'm happy to roll with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seadog54 20 Posted September 15, 2013 Damn... Drafted jimmy graham... I'm sure getting burned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogAssassin 6 Posted September 15, 2013 If you mean Burned by his awesomeness!! Then im slow roasted over an open fire..just call me chestnuts..or hot nuts.. Either way....WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 15, 2013 I am soooooo burned this week. Stupid thread btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5Year1 23 Posted September 15, 2013 never draft a TE this early he was going round 2 or 3? lol way too many good wr and rb to pass up HA HA 100 yards receiving and 2 TDS in first half today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttmonkey 8 Posted September 16, 2013 I've been "burned" with 2 wins so far this season due to Jimmy Graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted September 16, 2013 Week Two: 10 catches, 179 yards and a TD. Graham owners, do you feel the burn!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted September 16, 2013 i wanna get burned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highsider5 36 Posted September 16, 2013 anyone have an extra extinguisher handy, I've gone Chernobyl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingstowne Dealers 14 Posted September 16, 2013 anyone have an extra extinguisher handy, I've gone Chernobyl. Call the Amber Lamps! I been burned to a 2-0 record! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MORONS! 0 Posted September 16, 2013 I'm so grateful that I have a stud TE1 in Jared Cook, particularly in light of Graham's performance today--and that's not even including the TD that was (rightfully) called back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highsider5 36 Posted September 16, 2013 I would help but my fingers melted my phone posting this... sry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted September 16, 2013 I'm so grateful that I have a stud TE1 in Jared Cook, particularly in light of Graham's performance today--and that's not even including the TD that was (rightfully) called back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted September 16, 2013 whoever drafted Jimmy Graham is going to get burned :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted September 16, 2013 Call the Amber Lamps! I been burned to a 2-0 record! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 16, 2013 A better argument is whether tight end should even be a separate position in fantasy football. This season is shaping up as a nice year for tight ends. But so many times over the years you end up with a few really productive guys at the position, then a huge drop-off to a bunch of mediocre guys and scrubs that people have to start every week. I know it diminishes the value of the top tight ends somewhat to lump them in with WRs, but there just are not consistently enough good pass-catching TEs in the league to justify its own position. It would be akin to having a separate position for fullback back in the days when there were pass-catching fullbacks and a few were really good. So, because there are a few guys who excel at the position, and thus the owners who recognize this and draft wisely get rewarded, we should do away with the position? I'm sorry, but that seems just completely bass ackwards to me. Should that be the goal of a league's rules, to just homogenize everything as much as possible? Maybe we should do away with QB too, since not everyone can have a guy as good as Peyton or Rodgers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted September 16, 2013 Based on VBD, guys like graham and gronk are actually like top 10 players in a draft format. If you have a specific TE slot that is. Plain and simple. The overreactions around cook and others, well that's classic FFToday moronity isn't it. Changes week to week because morons have no ability to think about anything more than the highlights they just saw for the week. Lastly, TEs are notorious for lack of consistency, which makes guys like graham even more valuable. Hell even WRs outside of like the top 5 are highly inconsistent. Likely not to the tune of 0 catches like TEs can be, but bottom line is, anytime you can get someone at a position that is head and shoulders above everyone else at that position, VBD dictates that that player is a top pick. Fact that you can get him in the late 2nd/early 3rd is just gravy... morons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted September 16, 2013 Jimmy Graham is the cause of global warming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 16, 2013 Jimmy Graham is the cause of global warming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 16, 2013 The thing about Graham, and Gronk, that even VBD doesn't fully capture, is not just the numbers they put up in total, but their consistency from week to week. Some tight-ends will have monster weeks, but then disappear for weeks. So while they might help you deliver an ass-kicking ever few weeks, they also tend to be a non-factor fairly often. Graham is an important part of the Saints' gameplan week in, and week out. Last year he averaged 8.5 targets per game, was targeted at least 8 times in 11 of 16 games, and had double digit targets in 7 games. He also scored in half their games. The year before he was targeted 9.5 times a game on average, was NEVER targeted fewer than 7 times, and scored in 11 games. That's a guy who will help you compete every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kobe808lak 7 Posted September 16, 2013 Glad I took him in the third.. guy is a beast and played hurt last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted September 22, 2013 He sucks so bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AintNoStoppinMeNow 68 Posted September 22, 2013 My burns haven't even healed from last week and I'm getting burned again! wtf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,518 Posted September 22, 2013 hes no JC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Kennison 12 Posted September 22, 2013 Call me dumb for taking him at the end of the second. FML. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttmonkey 8 Posted September 22, 2013 Drafted QB/TE first two rounds in my sixteen team league - Brees/Graham - on my way to 3-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 220 Posted September 22, 2013 Is this the biggest fail ever?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 22, 2013 Third degree burns all over my body this week. Why didn't I hire track1 to be my draft consultant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 220 Posted September 22, 2013 I think, at this point, the only tracks are in track's shorts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 22, 2013 Is this the biggest fail ever?? I think it may be the worst fail in fftoday history. Actually, it may be the worst fail in football history. I.would feel like a complete D if I made this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highsider5 36 Posted September 23, 2013 34.4 big Cajun style points today someone call 911 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Criper 24 Posted September 23, 2013 I think it may be the worst fail in fftoday history. Actually, it may be the worst fail in football history. I.would feel like a complete D if I made this thread. Agreed. Graham is saving my arse and covering the crappy RBs on my team! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 23, 2013 Oh yea, David Wilson was a much better pick for me in rnd 2 than Jimmy, big Dave really held the fort down for me. Yep Ol davey boy really did the trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted September 23, 2013 Can I please start "gonna get burned" threads for all the guys on my roster? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites