FFToday Staff League Draft

[Mike FF Today 607]

We held our staff league draft last Tuesday, 8/15/17. Here are the results along with commentary from every owner.

 

There was very intereresting results and strategies employed... including a couple teams taking 2 RBs before Round 9, an early pick of Jacquizz Rodgers and Christian McCaffrey going in Round 2. Ezekiel Elliott went at 3.05 and Sammy Watkins at 4.09.

[Maulers1973 117]

My first impression is that Doug won the draft. He has a core of studs, good secondary players. He's the one to beat IMO.

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

I really don't think Zeke is going to make it past the 2/3 turn in many drafts. Even though Swanson was able to get him in the 3rd his team really took a hit because of it, it's a really bad team.

[Mike FF Today 607]

I really don't think Zeke is going to make it past the 2/3 turn in many drafts. Even though Swanson was able to get him in the 3rd his team really took a hit because of it, it's a really bad team.

 

That's the risk though, right? His team looks a lot better if Zeke situation drags on throughout the year and he's able to play.

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

 

That's the risk though, right? His team looks a lot better if Zeke situation drags on throughout the year and he's able to play.

 

If it's a managed league with playoffs I think it's a terrible team. I could see taking Zeke there if he grabbed a RB in one of the first two rounds but he didn't and now he will most likely have the worst RB group for the first 7 weeks. I'm not so sure his WRs can carry the load over those 7 weeks and get him to the playoffs. How many wins does it usually take to get into the playoffs?

[Oriole8159 86]

I really don't think Zeke is going to make it past the 2/3 turn in many drafts. Even though Swanson was able to get him in the 3rd his team really took a hit because of it, it's a really bad team.

 

I re-looked at his draft specifically, and yeah his team does suck but for his own poor other decisions.

 

I don't like but I can understand, the Cooper pick in Rd 2.

But after going WR/WR early and taking Zeke in the 3rd, why go Tate/Diggs in 4/5? Even considering it's PPR and they start 3 WRs and a flex, I don't see the value there as I don't think either of those 2 are significantly better than guys later in the draft. He could have had either of Bilal Powell or Carlos Hyde to help tide him over at RB early in the year, or gotten Eifert or Olson to stack his TE. Either of those 2 TEs are a significant upgrade to him taking Ertz in the 8th and leaving McFadden (Zeke's handcuff) Kareem Hunt, Tyrell Williams, Adam Thielen, Prosise, John Brown on the board.

 

I also hate Roethlisberger in the 9th. There's much better value for him specifically in getting another RB like Prosise, Terrence West or Rawls, and then wiaitng longer on QB. I even see he took Tyrod as a backup in the 11th; Tyrod could easily start for him anyway, and he can keep his 8th rd pick.

 

He also drafted 7 WRs in total. If 4 of your first 5 picks are WRs and you still walk away with 7 on your roster, you're doing something wr ong.

[Mike FF Today 607]

Guys, I meant to link to the anlaysis portion of the draft in my initial post. My bad (fixed).

 

Swanson mentioned, picking Zeke put him "behind the 8 ball"...

 

What player(s) did you miss out on? My strategy to take PPR-friendly wide receivers with four of my first five picks and a suspended running back put me behind the eight ball when it came to the running back position. Using my sixth and seventh round picks on Rob Kelley and Duke Johnson, gave me a viable traditional running back and a possible PPR stud in Johnson to help ease the pain of Zeke’s suspension. However, the opportunity cost filling those two spots caused me to miss out on Matt Ryan in the seventh, the quarterback I was targeting to double-dip with Julio Jones. I was able to overcome that loss by going with Big Ben for home games and Tyrod Taylor, but in hindsight, I would prefer to have Matty Ice.

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

One other thing I noticed that I found strange was the choices on QBs. I know the benches are deep but there were a lot of guys taking two QBs and even a third.

[weepaws 2,452]

Gronk is the most over ranked player I think in ff this season.

 

Second round pick?

 

My picks.

 

Team 9.

Team 1.

Team 4.

Team 7.

Team 10.

 

Usually in the leagues I've been in the top four or five teams either win money or break out even.

 

This was a good read thanks for the post and update of your draft.

[American Chewy 98]

Enjoyed all the comments. Good read.

[JakeTrain72 0]

One other thing I noticed that I found strange was the choices on QBs. I know the benches are deep but there were a lot of guys taking two QBs and even a third.

When your league waits on QBs you shouldn't just ignore the position because you took one already. Value is value and having good players makes your roster better. Goal of the draft is about getting as many good players as you can. I took two QBs worthy of being starters because I have two areas of need that weren't going to get addressed in the second half of the draft but they might if I can dangle a quality starting QB.

[JakeTrain72 0]

For the record I did consider Zeke at the turn. He's still a second round pick to me.

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

When your league waits on QBs you shouldn't just ignore the position because you took one already. Value is value and having good players makes your roster better. Goal of the draft is about getting as many good players as you can. I took two QBs worthy of being starters because I have two areas of need that weren't going to get addressed in the second half of the draft but they might if I can dangle a quality starting QB.

 

Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with that on QBs. I can only start one QB and if I'm going to stream them it's going to be with a guy I pick up off waivers, not draft. If I'm drafting 2 to 3 weeks before the season starts the biggest commodity is RBs followed by WRs. I don't even draft a kicker in my leagues in order to pick up an extra RB or WR. If a RB gets hurts after the draft I want to have his back up on my team or if young guy wins the job I want him on my team. I don't care about having that second QB or TE when I enter the season because it's very unlikely they're going to be a difference maker on my team. There's a very good chance that I'm going to be dropping one of them in the first couple weeks.

[tanatastic 2,061]

When your league waits on QBs you shouldn't just ignore the position because you took one already. Value is value and having good players makes your roster better. Goal of the draft is about getting as many good players as you can. I took two QBs worthy of being starters because I have two areas of need that weren't going to get addressed in the second half of the draft but they might if I can dangle a quality starting QB.

Off base here. A second qb after taking the first one relatively early is wasted value. Also QBs don't trade for squat. No one will trade you a wr2 even for a great qb because they are fine "seeing what happens with the guy they got". The guy they got in rnd 8 is putting up big games just like the guy in rnd 2-3 a lot of times.

 

Now this changes the later you wait. For example, if you take a qb late, it's perfectly fine to take another. But let's say you grabbed Rodgers in rnd 2-3. Taking another great QB who fell to rnd 5 is a complete and total waste. You now have a guy on the bench rather than a potential breakout or starter at rb/wr. When you go to trade that stud QB you will barely get a sniff and not a single person will give you the top shelf wr or rb you think your QB is worth. Why? Because whatever guy they are rolling with is good enough for them.

 

For the record, taking Wilson and Luck wasn't that bad at all. They are late enough that you didnt sacrifice THAT much value. A lot of the guys in that range are dart throws and Luck might be a huge value there if he's ok.

[American Chewy 98]

Guys who try to sell thier 2nd qb rarely get players higher than they could have drafted anyway. And it's usually not for several weeks you can pull off a decent trade. People will typically go down with the ship on underperformers, overvalue players doing well early, and will likely find decent qb play on waivers. It's not a strategy I would seek out despite "value".

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

I remember a few years ago waiting a long time to grab a QB. I was the only team that didn't have a QB yet and others were starting to notice. One of the guys ended up buying a second QB ahead of me thinking that I would want to trade with him because I would be too weak at the position. I just laughed at him and he was a little surprised that I turned his trade down. He was then upset that he had just wasted money on a player he had no need for.

[JakeTrain72 0]

I won't be upset for taking Luck over a TE. But that is why risk is always associated with reward. I also didn't view the second qb as somehow screwing over somebody in the league that's just silly. There were plenty of great qbs still on the board.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I also didn't view the second qb as somehow screwing over somebody in the league that's just silly. There were plenty of great qbs still on the board.

Ok good, you'd be surprised how many people think that way. Like taking another qb somehow leaves me high and dry. I saw a guy take Gronk/Graham back to back that one year thinking he had the whole league held for ransom at gunpoint or something.

[Hawkeye21 1,848]

Ok good, you'd be surprised how many people think that way. Like taking another qb somehow leaves me high and dry. I saw a guy take Gronk/Graham back to back that one year thinking he had the whole league held for ransom at gunpoint or something.

 

People do have the mindset though. I've seen it many times, especially with two top TEs. They think they will start one at TE and the other at Flex all while keeping them off other people's rosters. That would be great if those TEs were putting up top 5 RB numbers.