I believe the NYT story

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Oh come on...You've said this yourself. a GIANT reason he won was his opposition. If the dems put up a decent candidate against him, he wouldn't have won.

 

He still had to beat about 10 established Republicans just to get to Hitlery.

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I completely disagree with this. Hillary was a massively flawed candidate---and that drove people to Trump. Add to this the push against Obama and his policies for the last 8 years. I fervently believe if the dems put up a good candidate, Trump loses in 2020

 

What? All we hear is how great Obama was. Ask any lefty. If even lefties didn't like his policies the Dems are going to have trouble defeating Trump no matter who they put up.

[supermike80 1,285]

 

What? All we hear is how great Obama was. Ask any lefty. If even lefties didn't like his policies the Dems are going to have trouble defeating Trump no matter who they put up.

I disagree with what you just said.,

[OldMaid 1,838]

Tom Clancy novels have less intrigue than your posts.

 

 

Sorry Filthy, but this is one of the best zingers Ive read in a long time.

[crackattack 513]

Listening to Obama. I will say I miss an orator like him in the White House. I wasn't a fan of his, but he could deliver a speech.

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Listening to Obama. I will say I miss an orator like him in the White House. I wasn't a fan of his, but he could deliver a speech.

 

Imagine if Trump could speak like Obama or Clinton. He'd be the most popular President in history.

[LOD01 190]

This angle by CNN & Co. never had any legs. Man, they are running out of ideas. Another swing and a miss. Back to the drawing board.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Hillary was a massively flawed candidate---and that drove people to Trump. Add to this the push against Obama and his policies for the last 8 years. I fervently believe if the dems put up a good candidate, Trump loses in 2020

I pretty much disagree with the sentiment here. What drove people to Trump was the DNC's change of target voter. It's no secret who they are after, they spelled it out years ago. They no longer stand behind labor so they abandoned the rust belt. Trump claimed it. Same deal with Obama's policies, directed toward DNC planned voters. As far as 2020 goes, it's historically very difficult to unseat an incumbent. The color of the candidate the DNC rolls out is the biggest factor in 2020.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

I pretty much disagree with the sentiment here. What drove people to Trump was the DNC's change of target voter. It's no secret who they are after, they spelled it out years ago. They no longer stand behind labor so they abandoned the rust belt. Trump claimed it. Same deal with Obama's policies, directed toward DNC planned voters. As far as 2020 goes, it's historically very difficult to unseat an incumbent. The color of the candidate the DNC rolls out is the biggest factor in 2020.

If its a white straight male they would raise their chances substantially. Ill never vote for anyone in the DNC again but thats just me. RNC lifer.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

What? All we hear is how great Obama was. Ask any lefty. If even lefties didn't like his policies the Dems are going to have trouble defeating Trump no matter who they put up.

But the right thought he was the worst ever...whined about the economy that magically was perfect the day Trump took office.

The point wasn't about what Obama really was...the point was the push back by the right who hated him no matter what.

[MDC 5,890]

 

So we should make believe that this is the first thread we have ever responded to each other in and completely ignore your entire posting history....

 

Awesome, I can't compete with that sort of absurdity.

You get mad and cant handle it. Thats okay I dont judge.

[lickin_starfish 1,480]

I pretty much disagree with the sentiment here. What drove people to Trump was the DNC's change of target voter. It's no secret who they are after, they spelled it out years ago. They no longer stand behind labor so they abandoned the rust belt. Trump claimed it. Same deal with Obama's policies, directed toward DNC planned voters. As far as 2020 goes, it's historically very difficult to unseat an incumbent. The color of the candidate the DNC rolls out is the biggest factor in 2020.

What drove me to Trump was the smug, condescending attitude of the Left and it's followers.

[Mr. Hand 482]

the point was the push back by the right who hated him no matter what.

Describes the left and Trump

[Reality 2,710]

You get mad and cant handle it. Thats okay I dont judge.

 

Mad about what?

 

You're the one talking in circles and crying about the tone of our banter.

 

[MDC 5,890]

 

Mad about what?

 

You're the one talking in circles and crying about the tone of our banter.

 

Not crying, just rolling my eyes. You cant handle polite disagreement, get embarrassed when youre stumped and try hard to turn it into a sissy slapfight.

 

Thats okay though I took the high road.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,633]

Not crying, just rolling my eyes. You cant handle polite disagreement, get embarrassed when youre stumped and try hard to turn it into a sissy slapfight.

 

Thats okay though I took the high road.

Do you have to get in a pissing match everyday?

[Reality 2,710]

Not crying, just rolling my eyes. You cant handle polite disagreement, get embarrassed when youre stumped and try hard to turn it into a sissy slapfight.

 

Thats okay though I took the high road.

 

Stumped on what, I obliterated your absurd points.. Let's be real honest, you don't like looking stupid and now you are trying your best to dig out of it.

 

Please tell us about real wages being down... (one for each penny)

 

It's sad, deal with the curb-stomping and move on.

 

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You both are pretty, and doggonit people like you.

[wiffleball 4,640]

Read back through the thread. Ive been polite. Took you til post 2 or so to start tossing insults.

 

You should start with the man in the mirror.

Better characterization of reality is that he's a lot like many of the folks here. Their personal sense of self-worth is so tied up, that they can't really distinguish one thread from the other. So if you disagree with him about for example, charter schools. In one thread. And then express your love for pineapple slices in another. He'll be so pissed off about the charter school thing that He'll instinctively rip you about pineapple no matter how he feels about that particular fruit.

 

Most women are a lot like that. They'll bite your head off for Something Completely innocuous. And when you press them on it, "well you cut me off in the meeting last week "!

 

Um, what now?

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

Stumped on what, I obliterated your absurd points.. Let's be real honest, you don't like looking stupid and now you are trying your best to dig out of it.

 

Please tell us about real wages being down... (one for each penny)

 

It's sad, deal with the curb-stomping and move on.

 

 

You have never obliterated anything.

So 3 pennies isn't down?

Curb stomping? How sad you have to try and claim that when you have been idiotic every step of the way.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,633]

Spice girls activated!

[Reality 2,710]

 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Sorry Filthy, but this is one of the best zingers Ive read in a long time.

I wear it as a badge of Honor. Honcho's posts are as intriguing as a two day old dump sitting unflushed in a truck stop.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

I wear it as a badge of Honor. Honcho's posts are as intriguing as a two day old dump sitting unflushed in a truck stop.

 

:lol:

 

That supposed "zinger" by Honcho just got obliterated. Filthy won this one - again.

[OldMaid 1,838]

:lol:

 

That supposed "zinger" by Honcho just got obliterated. Filthy won this one - again.

Why is everything a win/lose competition with you guys? I really don’t understand this mentality.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

Why is everything a win/lose competition with you guys? I really don’t understand this mentality.

 

Because that's the game we're all playing.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Why is everything a win/lose competition with you guys? I really dont understand this mentality.

Trolls claim they win everything...facts dont matter (which is why they never are armed with any).

All about owning the libs.

[Mr. Hand 482]

Trolls claim they win everything...facts dont matter (which is why they never are armed with any).

All about owning the libs.

Dude, you have no self awareness. Your entire existence is about trying to be right. You are so messed up.

[OldMaid 1,838]

Because that's the game we're all playing.

And... that’s the problem.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,633]

Dude, you have no self awareness. Your entire existence is about trying to be right. You are so messed up.

Exactly. Claims he didn't vote for Hillary so he can win on message boards. Sad.

[drobeski 3,061]

Trump saved us from a candidate who bought and paid for the nomination, inspired no one and lost the election.

 

Deep down everyone knows this to be true.

solid point

[Mike Honcho 4,027]

I wear it as a badge of Honor. Honcho's posts are as intriguing as a two day old dump sitting unflushed in a truck stop.

 

 

 

Why is everything a win/lose competition with you guys? I really don’t understand this mentality.

 

THIS isn't a competition.

[drobeski 3,061]

Better characterization of reality is that he's a lot like many of the folks here. Their personal sense of self-worth is so tied up, that they can't really distinguish one thread from the other. So if you disagree with him about for example, charter schools. In one thread. And then express your love for pineapple slices in another. He'll be so pissed off about the charter school thing that He'll instinctively rip you about pineapple no matter how he feels about that particular fruit.

 

Most women are a lot like that. They'll bite your head off for Something Completely innocuous. And when you press them on it, "well you cut me off in the meeting last week "!

 

Um, what now?

have you ever ever in your life had a woman ?

Serious

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

have you ever ever in your life had a woman ?

Serious

 

Yes. Apparently his own mom.

[Mike Honcho 4,027]

Instead of discussing if the op-ed is true or not (we all know it is), we should be discussing who likely wrote it.

 

My money is on James Mattis.

 

Russian Ambassador Jon Huntsman