vrabinec 19 Posted July 23, 2014 I wanna believe in Vereen, picture him in a Corey Dillon type role for them, but WTF? Who here has the courage to draft him as your #2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 23, 2014 I would be ok with it in ppr. If i had a good enough group around him i would be ok with him as my number 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 491 Posted July 23, 2014 I say skip Vereen and Ridley and take a late flier on White. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted July 23, 2014 Comparing Vereen to Corey Dillon is kind of laughable... Vereen is a reasonably sized 3rd down back. Ridley is the dillon comparison if you were going to have one, but either is foolish because they mix it up so much. The pats are going to want to run alot, but i think their usage will be very similar.... Roughly 200 touches each, Vereen getting a chunk of them in receptions.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 23, 2014 Vereen in a ppr league I would take him for me #2 RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted July 23, 2014 Vereen is a good #2 back in a PPR league. I think it is reasonable to think in his bad games where he carries the ball 5 times for 15 yards he will still catch 5-6 balls and put up 40 yards receiving. That day won't win your game but the receptions will keep you in it. Now non-ppr is a different story and I think that Vereen will have maybe two blow up multiple score games but will hit you with 4 or 5 that absolutely sink your RB2 spot. I play non-ppr leagues and like Ridley. The NE big back is going to score 10 TDs on the ground. I know that Ridley has the risk of being benched at any moment so I would spend a very late round pick locking down the 2nd big rb either Bolden or Houston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICEMAN 38 Posted July 23, 2014 Ridley is talented and he is no dope. He knows that this season is it for him if he wants to get a second contract (read:make millions of dollars) somewhere. I am certain that he has been working all summer on his ball security issue. Many big time RB's have had the same problem in the past (Adrian Peterson, Tiki Barber etc...) and corrected the issue and gone on to big time fantasy success. I would say that Ridley will be one of this years biggest draft values. I am expecting 1,000-1,100 yards rushing and 9-11 TD's. He won't catch the ball much, but that is what Vereen excels at. I see Vereen with about 500 yards rushing and 600-700 yards receiving with 6-7 combined TD's. Bolden is a JAG that was undrafted for a reason. He slow and he has very limited lateral quickness. He's an effort guy that will be used to spell Ridley (to the annoyance of fantasy players everywhere). ICEMAN 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 23, 2014 I like Vereen a lot but his price tag is pretty steep right now, given injury and usage concerns. Ridley might be a decent buy and White is definitely the guy to snag late. Gotta keep an eye on Bolden too though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted July 23, 2014 Comparing Vereen to Corey Dillon is kind of laughable... Vereen is a reasonably sized 3rd down back. Ridley is the dillon comparison if you were going to have one, but either is foolish because they mix it up so much. The pats are going to want to run alot, but i think their usage will be very similar.... Roughly 200 touches each, Vereen getting a chunk of them in receptions.... yup. Dink gots it right here. Looks like NE's juggernaut offense days are over. With a lack of WRs, an aging Brady, good young runners, and Revis surrounded by tons of 1st round talent, NE will be back to winning with smart/efficient offense and top 5 defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrabinec 19 Posted July 23, 2014 I can't make up my mind about their receivers either. Aaron Dobson's available as a FA in my money league. I took Markus Wheaton over him as my last WR reserve. Couldn't pull the trigger. I keep expecting someone to step into the "Moss" role in the Pats offense, but nobody ever does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 23, 2014 I can't make up my mind about their receivers either. Aaron Dobson's available as a FA in my money league. I took Markus Wheaton over him as my last WR reserve. Couldn't pull the trigger. I keep expecting someone to step into the "Moss" role in the Pats offense, but nobody ever does. That's because there is no "Moss role". Randy was one of a kind. The more likely role for Dobson is what Brandon Lloyd did after Moss before he was jettisoned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted July 23, 2014 As everyone stated earlier I like Vereen in PPR and Ridley in nonppr. Ridley will get all the goal line carries which should give him about 10 TDs this season. In 2012 he was a great pick so if he worked on ball security then he should be good to go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 94 Posted July 23, 2014 I can't consider Vareen a true RB2 in PPR because of his injury history. He's been the most dynamic NE RB, but if you pick him, you have to take the good with the bad. Same with Ridley. New England was once a team where you figured you had 4-5 dependable fantasy starters. However, injuries and that mad scientist running the show make them a l ittle more of a gamble in fantasy circles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted July 23, 2014 I think it is reasonable to think in his bad games where he carries the ball 5 times for 15 yards he will still catch 5-6 balls and put up 40 yards receiving. Shane Vereen has hit those benchmarks 5 times in his career. I woud not be happy going into a season depending on him to give me RB2 numbers. The only way i draft him is as my RB4 (after 2 starters and a competant backup). Which means i wont be drafting him this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted July 24, 2014 dobson is on the pup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Fiend 38 Posted July 24, 2014 I would not depend on any NE running back....far too much risk & frustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted July 24, 2014 I would not depend on any NE running back....far too much risk & frustration. This^ I have been burned by "The Hoodie" far too many times to go through the frustration again. He is unpredictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted July 24, 2014 Giggity Giggity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted July 24, 2014 Shane Vereen has hit those benchmarks 5 times in his career. I woud not be happy going into a season depending on him to give me RB2 numbers. The only way i draft him is as my RB4 (after 2 starters and a competant backup). Which means i wont be drafting him this year. Vereen also got hurt after starting off looking to be a monster... Vereen is an RB3 with some upside given how injuries and usage shake out... which correctly makes him undraftable for you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ckleinhe 2 Posted July 24, 2014 the trouble with predicting NE backfield has one benefit: lowers the ADP of its running backs. Ridley is actually a decent target this year. A successful runner, and NE has trended towards being a run-heavy team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted July 24, 2014 i wont own any NE backs. I play in PPR leagues which diminishes ridley's value and vareen is a known commodity this year. i wont be paynig full value for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 25, 2014 FWIW, Patriots' RB coach (Ivan Fears) says he is "in love" with James White Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted July 25, 2014 I just have no idea week 2 week with any of these guys. I mean week 1 Vereen against buffalo has 14 rushes and 7 catches. Totals 159 yards The rematch against Buffalo he gets 2 rushes and 3 catches. Totals 45 yards He happens to score but it's all too random for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 25, 2014 for what its worth http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/brady-praises-thompkins-after-impressive-day?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrabinec 19 Posted July 25, 2014 I doubt the Thomp/Dob/Amen battle settles until they run out on the field in the first game. BB likes to be a tool and keep stuff like that under his hat so opponents can't gameplan, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 25, 2014 I doubt the Thomp/Dob/Amen battle settles until they run out on the field in the first game. BB likes to be a tool and keep stuff like that under his hat so opponents can't gameplan, Yeah I agree, I just posted it cuz Thompkins lost a lot of value near the end of year and even with Dobson being on the PUP he still seemed to be the favorite\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted July 26, 2014 I say skip Vereen and Ridley and take a late flier on White. Total agreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted July 26, 2014 Vereen. He's had wrist problems, hopefully that is in the past. His true value is in PPR leagues. Drafting him as a decent RB2 with the potential for some high scoring games in legit. I wouldn't expect 1000 yards rushing, but 1600+ combined yards is reasonable with 70+ receptions a good expectation. He had 47 catches in 8 games last year. The key is Amendola and Gronkowski. If both are healthy I think it will reduce his receptions, but possibly add to his rushing yards. Ridley. One word....fumble. If he can't hold onto the ball, he can't hold onto the job. Vereen is clearly ahead of him. He's more powerful than Vereen, so there is a chance he gets the goal line carries. He's a lowside RB4. White. If Vereen would go down to injury I would expect James White to given the chance to take over the running back duties. When it comes to running the ball he is standing out in Pats camp and was impressive at Wisconsin. He has a chance to become a RB2, but probably not for at least a year or two. Someone mentioned it above, White is a great late round grab to sit on if you have the roster space. My opinion is this: You draft Vereen as a solid RB2 in PPR, a decent RB2 in standard leagues. He's entrenched as the starter in a potentially high scoring offense. I wouldn't even think about taking Ridley. Too many question marks surround him and there are better and safer options. White is a nice player to sit on if you can afford the space on your bench. 1. Vereen 2. Don't draft Ridley or White as a RB3/RB4...find a better option. 3. Draft White late and sit on him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 26, 2014 1600 total yards and 70 receptions puts him in rb1 range. I like him but think thats a little too optimistic. He would have to get a lot more carries than expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted July 26, 2014 1600 total yards and 70 receptions puts him in rb1 range. I like him but think thats a little too optimistic. He would have to get a lot more carries than expected. Definitely optimistic, but I think he's dynamic enough to pull it off. I think he can equal his rushing and receiving yards. 850 rushing yards and around 700 receiving yards. I agree it would put him boarderline RB1, but I don't see the TD's for him. That will be his downfall and what makes me think he will be a RB2. Charles, McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, Lacy, Foster, Ball, Bell, Bernard, Martin, Murray are typically your RB1's. If Vereen can get 10+ TD's I would think he could be a RB1, but not being sure is why I would put him down as a solid RB2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Fiend 38 Posted July 26, 2014 Stay away from NE RBs!!!! Don't do this to yourself! A fumble and they sit immediately, your fantasy game day is over. 2-3 fumbles in 5-6 games and maybe they start in the 2nd half of a game. Then the game where they play the lowly Bills at home....you itch with excitement and salivate at the potential #'s.... And....wait for it....wait.....Hoodie starts a RB you never heard of!!! Sip your drink and go to bed.....too much risk fellas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
