Venting: How am I 4-7?!

[eaglesfreak 10]

Talk about bad luck this year in this league..its a 10 team PPR league and I have highest pts (1527 the 2nd highest is 1455 but my PA is a astonishing 1629 and the next highest is 1448)..I played highest pts teams 3 weeks in a row!!! Talk about bad luck....BUT if I win out i'll sneak into the playoffs as the 6th seed..

 

We start QB-RB-WR/RB-WR-WR-WR/RB/TE-TE-K-DEF .......Here's my team

 

QB

Eli Manning

Blake Bortles

 

RB

Demarco Murray

Gio Bernard

Ryan Matthews

Melvin Gordon

Karlos Williams

 

WR

Antonio Brown

AJ Green

Demarious Thomas

Randall Cobb

Rishard Matthews

 

TE

Olsen

 

DEF

Pats d

Steelers

 

K

Houshaka

 

Sorry had to vent!!!

[posty 2,296]

How am I 4-7?

Well the way head-to-head works is that each week you put in a lineup and your opponent puts in a lineup... Each player scores points on how they perform that week...

 

After the week is done, the points are added up and the team that scored the most points "wins" the game while the other team "loses"...

 

So, since you have four "wins" and seven "losses", that means that you outscored your opponent in four games and they outscored you in seven of them...

 

I hope that helps...

[Byrdman5 104]

Same thing happend to me one year, ended up 5-8 missed the playoffs.

 

This year same thing is happening but I'm making the playoffs. 3rd place PF 1416.3 and 2nd is 1241.1 PA 1303.6 and 2nd is 1197.4

 

Anyways I'll vent with you because first place regular season gets 100$.

 

Good luck, but we should probably just quit FF.

[thewrathofkuhn 40]

Feel you man. Same exact thing for me, 4-7.

 

12 team PPR, 1356 (2nd) for 1425 (2nd) against. 74-47 (2nd) league wide H2H to date. But this door can totally swing both ways – in the past I've benefited from a weak fantasy schedule and laid eggs for wins. 2nd and 3rd place in my team currently have 200 points less both for and against. The only saving grace is that there is another 4-7 team, 5 (!) at 5-6 and two at 6-5, most still playing each other at least once so everyone controls their own destiny. Like you, those points may play as a tiebreaker.

 

If your league doesn't already, I recommend a payout for highest points at the end of the regular season. We do $100. In a 10 team I'm sure you will have no problem getting everyone to pony up $10 for this.

 

All you can do is stay consistent and hope for the best.

 

Me (PPR player rank)

 

Manning (8)

 

McFadden (8) (5th last 4 weeks)

Ivory (7)

Hill (21)

Karlos Williams

James White

 

Dez

Landry (14)

Hurns (8)

Edelman (9)

Evans (28) – traded for Olsen last week

Decker (12) – acquired today for Barnidge

 

Olsen (4) – traded for last week, was:

Barnidge (2) – traded for Decker today

 

McManus

AZ DEF

 

 

(As aside, I think hope Manning is going to go off for us in the coming weeks!)

[Canadianfan 76]

Well the way head-to-head works is that each week you put in a lineup and your opponent puts in a lineup... Each player scores points on how they perform that week...

 

After the week is done, the points are added up and the team that scored the most points "wins" the game while the other team "loses"...

 

So, since you have four "wins" and seven "losses", that means that you outscored your opponent in four games and they outscored you in seven of them...

 

I hope that helps...

what a

[megatron's mom 6]

A. Rodgers

AP

Shady

Megatron

Cooks

Diggs

Olsen

Cano

Carolina D

 

5-6 some how. I feel your pain

[posty 2,296]

what a ######

So you do it differently?

[erock216 5]

I remember my first time playing fantasy football.

[track 1 16]

Op you're 4-7 because your team just isn't that good tbh

 

The running backs are bad...aj green and cobb have been busts this year. Antonio brown sucked the 4 weeks Big Ben was out. Demarious has had single digit scoring games because of Peyton

[jgcrawfish 232]

Op you're 4-7 because your team just isn't that good tbh

 

The running backs are bad...aj green and cobb have been busts this year. Antonio brown sucked the 4 weeks Big Ben was out. Demarious has had single digit scoring games because of Peyton

 

And yet somehow he's the highest scoring team in the league despite your dumbass assertion that his team stinks.

 

QB: Manning 8th, Bortles 9th

RB: Murray 7th, Bernard 10th, Mathews 31st, Williams 35th, Gordon 47th

WR: Brown 3rd, Thomas 10th, Green 11th, Cobb 20th, Matthews 23rd

TE: Olsen 4th,

 

You show how little YOU know by making comments as you did, and sound like a complete doosh in doing so.

 

He's rolling out a Top 10 QB every week, two top 10 RB's, basically three top 10 WR's and a top 5 TE. Where's he's suffered is by not having some of the recent waiver wire darlings on his team (D Williams, D McFadden, C West, J Langford, T Rawls, etc). I'm in the same boat with the 2nd highest scoring team in one league that has FAR AND AWAY the most points scored against me. You can't control head to head. That same league there is an 11-0 team. He's the best scorer in the league by a large margin. But if he'd played my schedule he'd be 8-3. If I'd played his schedule I'd be 9-2 instead of 6-5.

 

Again, it's mostly luck and good fortune.

[Ray_T 590]

 

And yet somehow he's the highest scoring team in the league despite your dumbass assertion that his team stinks.

 

QB: Manning 8th, Bortles 9th

RB: Murray 7th, Bernard 10th, Mathews 31st, Williams 35th, Gordon 47th

WR: Brown 3rd, Thomas 10th, Green 11th, Cobb 20th, Matthews 23rd

TE: Olsen 4th,

 

You show how little YOU know by making comments as you did, and sound like a complete doosh in doing so.

 

He's rolling out a Top 10 QB every week, two top 10 RB's, basically three top 10 WR's and a top 5 TE. Where's he's suffered is by not having some of the recent waiver wire darlings on his team (D Williams, D McFadden, C West, J Langford, T Rawls, etc). I'm in the same boat with the 2nd highest scoring team in one league that has FAR AND AWAY the most points scored against me. You can't control head to head. That same league there is an 11-0 team. He's the best scorer in the league by a large margin. But if he'd played my schedule he'd be 8-3. If I'd played his schedule I'd be 9-2 instead of 6-5.

 

Again, it's mostly luck and good fortune.

The guy you are slagging brings some valid points. Yes, Demarco Murry is 7th in scoring but the first 4 weeks were all duds. the 5th week was ok, but you may have been sitting him by that time. So really, you may have had decent numbers for roughly half your starts.

 

Bernard didnt start the season as a starter, so you may not have even started him in week 1 and his numbers have been up and down from game to game.

 

Manning had a dud week in week 1, 6, 7, and 9. and regardless of how bortles played, you likely were not starting him until Mannings poor weeks in week 6 & 7.

 

the problem with your team is consistency. Too many dud weeks as compared to even production from week to week. A dud week can really hurt your weekly outcome and there are some weeks I can see just from looking at the players above where you had 2+ duds. I'd suggest most of those weeks are almost guaranteed losers and all you need to do is run into a hot team in one or two of your good weeks and then you are below .500 (much like you are complaining about)

 

a good player isnt just one that scores lots of fantasy points. they score lots every week so you dont have to guess at whether they will be a good start or not.

 

That's the real problem with your team. That and the fact your depth players arent that hot.

 

Ryan Matthews, Melvin Gordon and Karlos williams were all brimming with potential at the start of the year, but Matthews has been the backup to Murray. (I doubt you started them both) Gordon is the victim of a team that had lots of O line injuries but in general has underperformed and Williams is a backup who may yet become the starter, but hasnt really blown the doors off (yet)

 

The strength of your team is at WR and the players there have also underperformed. Demarius hasnt been horrible, but he has not been the Stud WR1 hes been in past years. He's mostly put up very consistant WR2 numbers with a couple of bigger games. AJ has been good, and Brown has been the victim of Rothlisberger injuries so his numbers have been sub par.

 

that's how it all came about for you.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Sorry OP, thats the sad truth about head to head. It makes the game a complete crapshoot. You can have great scores every week and still lose while another guy is 7-3 and hasnt beat a decent opponent all year. You live and die by what your opponents randomly put up each week. Pray yours is higher and put up a decent score each week, thats all you can do, its about 90% luck. This is all beside the fact that your team is also highly volatile and no one has really been too consistent wich is the most important thing, not year end score. Id say your team isnt that good despite the high score.

 

Being a dutiful, savvy and smart owner can only put your team in POSITION to succeed. Actually succeeding is almost all chance and roll of the dice week to week between your players and the opponents score. Ill say it a different way..Good players can put themselves in favorable spots to handle injuries, bye weeks etc with smart play. But that does not, I repeat DOES NOT buy you even a single win in head to head. Thats entirely up to the luck of the draw of what your opponent puts up. Smart owners will only have their odds of winning increase as the weeks go on and they face dif opponents who mismanaged their teams into unfavorable spots.

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And yet somehow he's the highest scoring team in the league despite your dumbass assertion that his team stinks.

 

QB: Manning 8th, Bortles 9th

RB: Murray 7th, Bernard 10th, Mathews 31st, Williams 35th, Gordon 47th

WR: Brown 3rd, Thomas 10th, Green 11th, Cobb 20th, Matthews 23rd

TE: Olsen 4th,

 

You show how little YOU know by making comments as you did, and sound like a complete doosh in doing so.

 

He's rolling out a Top 10 QB every week, two top 10 RB's, basically three top 10 WR's and a top 5 TE. Where's he's suffered is by not having some of the recent waiver wire darlings on his team (D Williams, D McFadden, C West, J Langford, T Rawls, etc). I'm in the same boat with the 2nd highest scoring team in one league that has FAR AND AWAY the most points scored against me. You can't control head to head. That same league there is an 11-0 team. He's the best scorer in the league by a large margin. But if he'd played my schedule he'd be 8-3. If I'd played his schedule I'd be 9-2 instead of 6-5.

 

Again, it's mostly luck and good fortune.

Lol why you so mad bro? You're the one sounding like the douche

[posty 2,296]

Again, it's all mostly luck

Fixed...

[thewrathofkuhn 40]

Fixed...

 

Yet he's somehow assembled the highest scoring team?

[tanatastic 2,061]

 

Yet he's somehow assembled the highest scoring team?

His team is bad tho still. All guys that have dissapeared for chunks of the season or flat out sucked. It's not a case of a powerhouse that got bad beats.

[thewrathofkuhn 40]

His team is bad tho still. All guys that have dissapeared for chunks of the season or flat out sucked. It's not a case of a powerhouse that got bad beats.

 

Except, as I've said it's clearly not. What are you failing to understand?

 

Every league exists in a box. If he averages more points a week then a majority of teams in his league, then by definition he has a good team. He has 1629 points against – there are going to be some bad beats in there. That's some bad luck passed down by the fantasy scheduling God's. As you allude to, its fair to assume he's probably had some larger then normal swings in scoring deviation week over week, but still – he has an amazingly consistent fantasy roster by FFToday's metric:

 

His top 3 WR rank 3, 36, 9 in scoring consistency, TE 4, His RB 8, 47, 19, 90 (why do people still own Gordon?), 20, His QB's 8 and 14. Cobb and Matthews at 25 and 27.

 

In other words, his starting roster – which are almost all impressively draft picks looks like:

 

8, 8, 19, 3, 9, 4 and a flex of 25, 27, 36 or 47.

 

That is not a bad fantasy team by any measure.

[Byrdman5 104]

Just checked my H2H against the entire league and would be 97-24.

 

My 5-8 team that missed the playoffs a few years back had QB 4 -- RB 6,9,11 -- WR 3,10,21,22 -- TE 5 -- D 1 -- K 3

[jgcrawfish 232]

Just checked my H2H against the entire league and would be 97-24.

 

My 5-8 team that missed the playoffs a few years back had QB 4 -- RB 6,9,11 -- WR 3,10,21,22 -- TE 5 -- D 1 -- K 3

That's a pretty sick head to head. This is the more important. #, well other than the points for.

 

As mentioned, one of my teams is 6-5, but like the OP, is getting HUGE chunks of points scored against them each week. Last week the 1-8 bottom dwellers put up their best point total of the season to beat me, with off the charts game from Newton and Doug Martin to a lesser exent, and then Golden Taint and Tedd Ginn getting good point totals and Mason Fvcking Crosby throwing down 22 pts. If I played the top teams schedule I would be 8-3 and if the 11-0 guy had played mine he'd be 8-3 as well. My head to head is only like 76 wins vs 41 losses. It's mostly luck, good or bad.

[The Postman 3]

As I have said many times before that's why if you want a head to head league you need to modify it and have a win or loss against your opponent head to head each week and also have a win or loss based on whether you score in the top half of the league in total points or a loss if you score in the bottom half. It truly eliminates these head to head only issues. You get 2 in the win/loss column every week. Its so simple but people just don't seem to see the logic. I can't even get my league mates to agree to it.

[erikthebassist 41]

It's easy to be highest scoring team when you have guys that put up a few absolutely ridiculous weeks but are subpar the rest of the weeks. Those huge weeks like Eli against the Saints, the few brown has had, go a long way to boost your score to insane levels for that week alone, in which case you probably win by wide margin, but that margin is wasted and having such an inconsistent bunch means your whole team is boom or bust.

 

Boom or bust is bad, you are adding an element of chance with boom or bust players that can cause your team to the bed in any given week, and you leave a lot of wasted points on the board.

[thewrathofkuhn 40]

It's easy to be highest scoring team when you have guys that put up a few absolutely ridiculous weeks but are subpar the rest of the weeks. Those huge weeks like Eli against the Saints, the few brown has had, go a long way to boost your score to insane levels for that week alone, in which case you probably win by wide margin, but that margin is wasted and having such an inconsistent bunch means your whole team is boom or bust.

 

Boom or bust is bad, you are adding an element of chance with boom or bust players that can cause your team to ###### the bed in any given week, and you leave a lot of wasted points on the board.

 

He hasn't been all that boom or bust. He has a rather consistent lineup.