Ronnie Hillman, Andre Williams, Branden Oliver

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 47]

What waiver order are you putting these guys in?

 

Who is the best grab?

 

I know we will be seeing their names flying around the waiver wires this week.

 

The Capn'

[GS3K 12]

I think Hillman is headed for a straight time share, I'd rather have Oliver then Williams in that order.

[NEWPOSTERGUY! 266]

Williams might only get 2 weeks as the bellcow (Jints bye is week 8) ... but he gets Philly and Dallas ... very good.

 

Oliver next, because Damnit Donald blows, and he (Oliver) will still get burn once Mathews is back.

 

Hillman? who the fock knows w/Denver ... that Juwana Mama kid might be the guy for all we know

[Phil Simms 11 127]

Hillman has a shot to steal the starting spot with the way Ball has performed. That being said, so does Anderson.

 

I like Williams followed by Oliver. Short term it's close but long term Williams will continue to get carries whereas not so sure if Oliver will. Maybe he takes the midgets role?

[ynotu 0]

Hillman has a shot to steal the starting spot with the way Ball has performed. That being said, so does Anderson.

 

I like Williams followed by Oliver. Short term it's close but long term Williams will continue to get carries whereas not so sure if Oliver will. Maybe he takes the midgets role?

 

Exact opposite for me on Oliver vs Williams long term. For the next two weeks I think it's a flip because of matchups, but after that I think Oliver will be shifted into Danny Woodheads role when Mathews returns. Williams gets a bye and then he's back on the bench when Jennings returns.

[stonewall 647]

Here is an interesting historical perspective on what Oliver did last week.

 

http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/fantasyfallout141006/branden-oliver-surprising-performance-best-backups-recent-memory

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

How about adding A. Smith (ATL RB) to this discussion.

 

Will Coach Mike Smith pull his head out of his a$$ and actually use this weapon or is he purposely trying to get fired by using 3 scrubs ahead of A. Smith?

 

I'm targeting Oliver, Hillman then A. Smith. Williams isn't available.

[weepaws 2,452]

What waiver order are you putting these guys in?

 

Who is the best grab?

 

I know we will be seeing their names flying around the waiver wires this week.

 

The Capn'

Williams

 

Oliver

 

Not even looking at Hillman

[Sho Nuff 719]

How about adding A. Smith (ATL RB) to this discussion.

 

Will Coach Mike Smith pull his head out of his a$$ and actually use this weapon or is he purposely trying to get fired by using 3 scrubs ahead of A. Smith?

 

I'm targeting Oliver, Hillman then A. Smith. Williams isn't available.

 

Done well so far breaking the big gains...but how long can you count on that? Or count on a coach and give Smith more carries.

i am targeting because I am low on the waiver priority and won't likely get Hillman or Anderson in Denver (and Oliver and WIlliams are already owned) in one league.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Got Ellington, Stacy and PT in one league along with Sankey on the bench. If I don't get Oliver or Hillman (Williams owned) then I'm moving on A. Smith. May not be able to count on big numbers but Sankey isn't worth a bench spot at this time.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Got Ellington, Stacy and PT in one league along with Sankey on the bench. If I don't get Oliver or Hillman (Williams owned) then I'm moving on A. Smith. May not be able to count on big numbers but Sankey isn't worth a bench spot at this time.

 

Yeah...I have Forte, Bush, and PT in a ppr league. PT on a bye and Bush hurt now. I hope I can at least get Smith to have someone who could be a lottery ticket for a game and turn one touch into a big gain and score.

[jrec15 9]

Williams is my #1 as a Rashad owner. Gives me an easy whoever is starting = who i play here on out. Then Oliver. Then Hillman (better chance than Gerhart's got at this point). Then Smith.

[hoytdwow 202]

Williams

 

Oliver

 

Not even looking at Hillman

[Law 220]

My leagues tend to PPR so I have them Oliver (the next MJD?) then Williams (very Morris/Stacy like).

I would take Hillman only as a FA if my waiver claims fail.

[RepoPatrol 14]

This is how I see it. I am desperate at RB so my rankings are slanted toward immediate results.

 

1. Williams - 2 games minimum

2. Oliver - 1 or 2 games

3. Hillman - not likely to carry full load

4. Rainey - clearly will steal snaps from martin

5. Storm Johnson - Will be Jax #1 RB within a few weeks.

6. Helu - 5-8 targets per game

7. Pimms- If Bush / Bell both sit.

[We Tigers 71]

Agree with the conventional wisdom here. Oliver/Williams, Hillman below. I would probably rather let someone claim Hillman and grab one of the other Denver RBs if it came down to it--or look for Ingram or Moreno in shallow leagues.

[DaBeerz 88]

If you are a Montee Ball owner, does this impact your decision?

[Belushi 9]

I think Oliver has the best chance for long-term value. He'll get a couple of starts, and if he can put up Woodhead numbers the rest of the season then he could be a good flex play.

 

Hillman may get 2-3 starts, but the schedule isn't easy, and he's got potentially 2 other RBs to share with. He'll likely lose GL carries at least. And I think the job is Ball's when he gets back. Denver knows what they have in Hillman, and clearly they don't view him as a starter. I don't think Ball's problems have to do with talent - the O-line blocking just hasn't been there.

 

I'd go Oliver-Williams-Hillman for waivers.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566]

This is how I see it. I am desperate at RB so my rankings are slanted toward immediate results.

 

1. Williams - 2 games minimum

2. Oliver - 1 or 2 games

3. Hillman - not likely to carry full load

4. Rainey - clearly will steal snaps from martin

5. Storm Johnson - Will be Jax #1 RB within a few weeks.

6. Helu - 5-8 targets per game

7. Pimms- If Bush / Bell both sit.

 

who the hell is Pimms?

 

Winn? I am looking at Riddick

[BingoBrown 8]

This is a very fascinating waiver week, as these 3 RBs are in very different situations.

 

If you only need help over the next 2 weeks, then Andre Williams is your man. He should outperform both of the other options.

 

Both Hillman and Oliver are wildcards, but potentially offer much better long term value this season than Williams. If Mathews was out longer, I'd say Oliver would be the better play here, but Mathews should be back soon (but for how long remains to be seen). Oliver will still have value when Mathews is back, but it will obviously be suppressed.

 

I think Hillman is the most boom-or-bust of the three. He could end up in a RBBC, or he could take the job outright and never give it back to Ball.

[DaBeerz 88]

This is a very fascinating waiver week, as these 3 RBs are in very different situations.

 

If you only need help over the next 2 weeks, then Andre Williams is your man. He should outperform both of the other options.

 

Both Hillman and Oliver are wildcards, but potentially offer much better long term value this season than Williams. If Mathews was out longer, I'd say Oliver would be the better play here, but Mathews should be back soon (but for how long remains to be seen). Oliver will still have value when Mathews is back, but it will obviously be suppressed.

 

I think Hillman is the most boom-or-bust of the three. He could end up in a RBBC, or he could take the job outright and never give it back to Ball.

 

If Hillman had the tools to win the job outright, the job would have been his, since Ball wasn't producing great numbers. I think Ball is probably better in the pass blocking game as he's a bigger back.

 

I'm torn on going for Oliver or Williams first. I'm not so sure Oliver won't outperform Williams over the next 2 weeks as he has Oakland this week who can't stop the run at all.

 

It's probably a moot point for me as I'm pretty sure the only back I'll have a chance to get is Hillman, I'm dead last in the WW pickup order this week and Oliver blew up last week, so that is bound to get some attention.

[joeshushu 51]

I am shooting Oliver, Williams owned. I am going to try and trade Lamar Miller/AJ to the Moreno owner and upgrade my WR.

[BingoBrown 8]

 

If Hillman had the tools to win the job outright, the job would have been his, since Ball wasn't producing great numbers.

 

Well, this is poor logic, considering Donald Brown wasn't producing great numbers, yet Brandon Oliver didn't win that job until Brown's injury.

 

Most coaches are reluctant to change starting roles for a variety of reasons. Look at Doug Martin/Bobby Rainey in Tampa. Or Trent Richardson/Ahmad Bradshaw in Indy. Or Shonn Greene/Bishop Sankey in Tennessee.

[DaBeerz 88]

 

Well, this is poor logic, considering Donald Brown wasn't producing great numbers, yet Brandon Oliver didn't win that job until Brown's injury.

 

Most coaches are reluctant to change starting roles for a variety of reasons. Look at Doug Martin/Bobby Rainey in Tampa. Or Trent Richardson/Ahmad Bradshaw in Indy. Or Shonn Greene/Bishop Sankey in Tennessee.

 

This is Manning's offense, if Hillman misses an audible or is off on his pass-blocking, they're not gonna keep him in there. That's why I suspect Ball was the starter over a back who produced better numbers with a higher YPC.

[Dueces Will Be Wild 15]

If you are a Montee Ball owner, does this impact your decision?

Not much. Mainly because Hillman is going to go up against some touch D's. I think Williams is definitely #1. Maybe you could bump him in front of Oliver if you thought it was a one game aberration and you expect Ball to be out a while.

[Texas10 15]

I think Oliver has the best chance for long-term value. He'll get a couple of starts, and if he can put up Woodhead numbers the rest of the season then he could be a good flex play.

 

Hillman may get 2-3 starts, but the schedule isn't easy, and he's got potentially 2 other RBs to share with. He'll likely lose GL carries at least. And I think the job is Ball's when he gets back. Denver knows what they have in Hillman, and clearly they don't view him as a starter. I don't think Ball's problems have to do with talent - the O-line blocking just hasn't been there.

 

I'd go Oliver-Williams-Hillman for waivers.

 

I agree with you, I think Oliver looked great. Assuming he produces like he should against Oak then he's going to play going forward regardless of Matthews. He has value now and later IMO.

[DaBeerz 88]

For the love of...

 

I've flip flopped on this waiver priority so many times now!!!

 

UPDATE: There’s a lot of buzz surrounding Williams, who will be the bell cow for the Giants in the upcoming matchup against Philly and Dallas. It’s hard to say who among Williams, Hillman, Oliver has the most upside, but you really can’t go wrong with any of them.

 

Well F. that's not helpful.

[TennisMenace 156]

What about Mark Ingram? He should be coming back in week 7.

[TennisMenace 156]

How about rating these three:

 

Crowell

Jeremy Hill

McKinnon

[DontPushMe 5]

Hillman and Williams were already gone in my league.

 

I prefer oliver to them as he'll have value even after Mathews returns.

[nobody 2,032]

I don't get all the love for Oliver. He's a smaller back that fits the change of pace model. I don't think he's going to be the workhorse, and when Mathews comes back, he's going to go back to being the main guy.

[murf74 461]

I don't get all the love for Oliver. He's a smaller back that fits the change of pace model. I don't think he's going to be the workhorse, and when Mathews comes back, he's going to go back to being the main guy.

Because even with Matthews back rivers loves a sproles / Woodhead type rb so he keeps value

[tbone138 6]

If Hillman had the tools to win the job outright, the job would have been his, since Ball wasn't producing great numbers. I think Ball is probably better in the pass blocking game as he's a bigger back.

 

I'm torn on going for Oliver or Williams first. I'm not so sure Oliver won't outperform Williams over the next 2 weeks as he has Oakland this week who can't stop the run at all.

 

It's probably a moot point for me as I'm pretty sure the only back I'll have a chance to get is Hillman, I'm dead last in the WW pickup order this week and Oliver blew up last week, so that is bound to get some attention.

 

Hillmans issue is not running talent. He's a fumbler. If he can hang onto the rock he may supplant Ball.

[tigeru 65]

What is it about any Jacksonville running back that intrigues people? Are they running a lot when they're losing?

[DaBeerz 88]

What is it about any Jacksonville running back that intrigues people? Are they running a lot when they're losing?

No idea. I've no idea why a team with no QB had Gerhart ranked so high before the season. There are just certain team players I avoid like the plague...Jacksonville and Oakland to name a few.

[tigeru 65]

Gerhart was a runner up for the heisman back in college and are lunch will adrian Peterson once or twice that's worth a lot to some.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Gerhart was a runner up for the heisman back in college and are lunch will adrian Peterson once or twice that's worth a lot to some.

WTF. Try 6th grade again. :roll:

[DaBeerz 88]

WTF. Try 6th grade again. :roll:

It was funny actually. Bitter Gerhart owner, confirmed.

[DaBeerz 88]

Holy crap balls, Oliver was picked up but I got Williams. Hillman didn't get claimed and I can grab him tomorrow off waivers.

[SNZ11 5]

I had picked up Williams before this week's game, and got Oliver off waivers. I didn't go for Hillman because I don't think he's better than Ball, and Ball has not played well. The #1 priority for a RB in Denver is to make sure Manning doesn't get killed.