Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 recipe posted below.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 ..... marsala (chicken or veal) 4 oz unsalted butter (by weight) 4 oz flour (by weight) 1/2 C or so of flour S&P 1-2 tbs veg or olive oil (we use blended in the kitchen) 1 shallot minced 2 C button mushrooms (finely sliced) 1 1/2 C stock (use chicken if chicken, use beef if veal) 1 1/2 C marsala wine 1 tbs butter 1/4 - 1/8 C cream preheat oven to 150-175. melt butter. add flour cook for about 5-8 min.... want a lighter roux. under saran wrap pound chicken or veal flat until it is about 1/8 - 1/4" thick. mix s&p into flour. lightly dredge meat. in a separate pan heat pan (med-high), add oil until hot enough to cook. sear your meat cook about 90%... set aside in the low temp oven (150 - 175). and more oil... saute mushrooms... add shallots when shrooms are 75% cooked. cook for about 2-3 more min. deglaze with marsala.. then add stock. reduce by 1/2. while boiling add 1-2 tsp of roux... whisking constantly.. it will thicken in a few minutes. if your need more, add more a little at a time. add cream.. boil until reaches desired consistency. finish with butter. check meat for doneness.... just top meat with sauce. very good with noodles, risotto, and spaetzle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,552 Posted May 22, 2018 The only thing capers are good for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted May 22, 2018 The key is to choke it really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted May 22, 2018 Played out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 WTF? I am hungry and you are a tease. ok... i'll just leave it up and answer questions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted May 22, 2018 The only thing capers are good for Whatchu talkin about Willis? Chicken picatta. baked salmon and bagels with smoked salmon come to mind too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,552 Posted May 22, 2018 Whatchu talkin about Willis? Chicken picatta. baked salmon and bagels with smoked salmon come to mind too. Sorry, Chicken Picatta was what I had in mind. Only thing capers is good for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,635 Posted May 22, 2018 The only thing capers are good for If there were no Capers, what would Batman and Robin foil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted May 22, 2018 Can’t say I’ve ever really had it more than maybe one time years ago. I’d like to though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,635 Posted May 22, 2018 a lot of people don't know this, but chicken marsala is actually a disambiguation of a much older dish called chicken or Polo malasa. Mal meaning bad or ill. ASA meaning digestion or digestive track. (Also where the word Ass comes from) Without Refrigeration, poultry tended to spoil very quickly. As with many such dishes, cooks soon learned to cover the slightly malodorous taste and smell with a rich deep sauce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 Can’t say I’ve ever really had it more than maybe one time years ago. I’d like to though. pretty easy dish. dredge in flour. sear until brown. take out of the pan and finish in oven. saute mushrooms and shallots. add marsala and chicken stock. reduce. thicken a little. i also tend to gravitate towards northern italian vs southern cuisine...so typically order marsala, saltimbocca, picatta, pastas with boar or rabbit, osso bucco over the red sauces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,552 Posted May 22, 2018 If there were no Capers, what would Batman and Robin foil? Dom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted May 22, 2018 Isn't there a rule this has to be served at every wedding? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted May 22, 2018 Marsala is awesome, thanks. ETA: Also, right at 3:30. Is Stalky McCreeperson posting from the car, or did Polly Prissypants get off for Bitcoin Pizza Day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 Isn't there a rule this has to be served at every wedding? honestly, when i was running banquets, i do not recall doing many marsalas. we had set menus, but would accommodate requests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted May 22, 2018 Marsala is awesome, thanks. ETA: Also, right at 3:30. Is Stalky McCreeperson posting from the car, or did Polly Prissypants get off for Bitcoin Pizza Day? Wow. Do you have to in every thread? Your need for a constant slap right is sad. StopIt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 Marsala is awesome, thanks. ETA: Also, right at 3:30. Is Stalky McCreeperson posting from the car, or did Polly Prissypants get off for Bitcoin Pizza Day? Wow. Do you have to in every thread? Your need for a constant slap right is sad. Stop It. Go to your corners! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted May 22, 2018 [HT] You brought this upon yourself. Now you suffer! [/HT] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted May 22, 2018 Favorite Italian food Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 ..... the cream is optional. do not use it often at home as i rarely have any around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted May 22, 2018 ..... the cream is optional. do not use it often at home as i rarely have any around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,635 Posted May 22, 2018 ..... the cream is optional. do not use it often at home as i rarely have any around. Whip some up! Chicken Mansala Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 always at the restaurants, but rarely use cream or half and half at home. if a recipe needs it i will buy small amounts but do not use it very often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted May 22, 2018 Whip some up! Chicken Mansala always at the restaurants, but rarely use cream or half and half at home. if a recipe needs it i will buy small amounts but do not use it very often. Wiff wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted May 22, 2018 Who the fock buys unsalted butter? It's not like using salted butter messes up a recipe but gawd forbid you focking use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 Who the fock buys unsalted butter? It's not like using salted butter messes up a recipe but gawd forbid you focking use it. it's all i buy. lets me season everything myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,635 Posted May 22, 2018 it's all i buy. lets me season everything myself. Absolutely. That's why I buy unsalted salt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted May 22, 2018 Who the fock buys unsalted butter? It's not like using salted butter messes up a recipe but gawd forbid you focking use it. I've never bought salted butter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 Absolutely. That's why I buy unsalted salt. welcome to the GC Steven Wright! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted May 22, 2018 it's all i buy. lets me season everything myself. So when you butter your toast, do you salt that too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted May 22, 2018 So when you butter your toast, do you salt that too? No, that's why one doesn't use salted buttah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 22, 2018 So when you butter your toast, do you salt that too? we typically have unsalted butter and some type of butter spread for the daughter. i rarely have toast, bagels, or english muffins but if i do and toast them... i sometime use the unsalted butter and sometimes the spreadable butter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted May 23, 2018 we typically have unsalted butter and some type of butter spread for the daughter. i rarely have toast, bagels, or english muffins but if i do and toast them... i sometime use the unsalted butter and sometimes the spreadable butter Hey Bier. Have you ever heard of a dish called Shrimp Ala Bracia? I used to get it at an Italian place in Fairfield, but never see it anywhere else. I always figured it was a name they made up. Anyway, its shrimp over pasta with sundried tomatoes, carmelized garlic, olive oil and not sure what else exactly. The pan sauce was a garlicky, rich light brown sauce. Maybe buttery? Not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 23, 2018 I have not. trying to research it a little and i see it on a couple of menus (mostly as you described it). i have looked at a few roots of bracia and it translates to fire, flame, or smoke. was there a smokey flavor to it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted May 23, 2018 When i make mine I put oregano in my flour. The mushrooms are epic in this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 23, 2018 When i make mine I put oregano in my flour. The mushrooms are epic in this sure. i will sometimes also use garlic powder in there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted May 23, 2018 I have not. trying to research it a little and i see it on a couple of menus (mostly as you described it). i have looked at a few roots of bracia and it translates to fire, flame, or smoke. was there a smokey flavor to it? Not really. The shrimp might have been grilled though. The sauce was the kicker. Its unappetizing to look at on its own because of the murky brown color, but it was delicious. Ive tried to make something like it, but never quite got it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted May 23, 2018 if you can identify the flavors.... a veloute is one of the five mother sauces. it is basic and you can add different ingredients to enhance flavors. one typically uses beef veloute (made with beef stock) with beef dishes, fish veloute for seafood dishes, etc. chicken veloute: 1 c chicken stock 2 tbs flour 2 tbs butter 1/2 tsp chicken base 1 c heavy cream s&p to taste Pour stock into a saucepan, cover, and bring to a simmer. Create roux with flour and butter. Add roux to stock. Cook and stir until mixture thickens. Stir in cream, chicken base, and s&p. Simmer until desired consistency is reached. One traditionally strains it, but that may not be necessary. you can do so many derivatives with this (ie: sauteed mushrooms and onions, peppers, add seasonings, herbs, lardons, fortified wines, etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites