CNN is fake news. I don't take questions from CNN

[wiffleball 4,640]

Russia has been meddling in our elections forever. I wonder who the meddled on behalf of in 2008, MCCain or Obama?

You better than this. Or not. I get that it's a talking point. But when you have trumps own campaign manager saying hey how can I dig myself out of a 12 million dollar whole now that I'm trumps campaign manager? That's problematic. When you have literally over a dozen different Trump team members lying repeatedly each time a felony by the way, about the Russian contacts? That's a problem. I don't disagree that there's been different levels. But we've never seen anything on a scope like this. Either you agree with that or you don't. Find me another election where the Russians have said hey we've got dirt on Hillary! And the opposing team said that's great! Let's meet!

 

If you really want to compare things? Go back to gorvy Bush. At that time I can't remember which side was offered dirt on the other side from a foreign country? And the first thing they did? Was call the FBI. They didn't even look at it. True story. I just can't remember who did what in this case. That's what you're supposed to do when a foreign government offers you dirt on your opponent when you're running for president. It's not like we haven't seen this before. We just haven't seen somebody do the wrong thing like this before.

 

Please HT, do me a favor and at least Google that story. At least show that you're making an effort.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

We just did away with Khadafi not too long ago. Got Boris Yeltsin a 10 billion dollar loan in 1996 for his re-election. Hussein. Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Hypocrisy. Aint that America.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

You better than this. Or not. I get that it's a talking point. But when you have trumps own campaign manager saying hey how can I dig myself out of a 12 million dollar whole now that I'm trumps campaign manager? That's problematic. When you have literally over a dozen different Trump team members lying repeatedly each time a felony by the way, about the Russian contacts? That's a problem. I don't disagree that there's been different levels. But we've never seen anything on a scope like this. Either you agree with that or you don't. Find me another election where the Russians have said hey we've got dirt on Hillary! And the opposing team said that's great! Let's meet!

 

If you really want to compare things? Go back to gorvy Bush. At that time I can't remember which side was offered dirt on the other side from a foreign country? And the first thing they did? Was call the FBI. They didn't even look at it. True story. I just can't remember who did what in this case. That's what you're supposed to do when a foreign government offers you dirt on your opponent when you're running for president. It's not like we haven't seen this before. We just haven't seen somebody do the wrong thing like this before.

 

Please HT, do me a favor and at least Google that story. At least show that you're making an effort.

If your point is Manafort is an oily sidewinder, I agree. That doesn't mean he's not entitled due process, which he's not getting. But I'm sure he was up to something, but it appears it was for his own benefit, not the campaigns. And besides, Trump exited him most Ricky Tic.

[wiffleball 4,640]

So imagine Downey's surprise when he received an envelope containing a briefing book and a videotape at his home address. He said he looked only long enough to determine that it was a book purporting to help Bush prepare for his 2000 debates and a tape supposedly of actual practice sessions. He called me and Bill Daley, the campaign chair, and while being very careful not to divulge any of the contents he might have gleaned, said that he was turning the materials over to the FBI.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/13/what-donald-trump-jr-should-have-learned-from-the-2000-gore-campaigns-hot-potato/

 

 

See what didn't happen here? They didn't return a message saying hey that would be great! And then schedule a meeting at Daddy's building. And then lie about the meeting by saying it was about adoptions. Then lie about the investigation into the meeting as to who was there. Not once, not twice, but like 12 times. And then lie about the investigation saying it's a Witch Hunt. Even though there have been 5 confessions.

 

it's not a Witch Hunt when the witches admit to being witches.

 

Literally. This is the story. Gore was offered opposition ? His team didn't even bring it to him they immediately contacted the FBI. Trumps team was offered a position ? They set up a meeting to exploit it. And Trump himself got on national TV and begged the Russians to provide until there was stolen from the Democrats.

 

As much as I hate Hillary, that's the story. End of story.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

All I needed to know about Gore v Bush was the amount of votes Pat Buchanan got in jewville West Palm Beach. I don't think so. Anyone who knows what's what knows that wasn't happening.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

 

What are your thoughts about the good ole U.S.A. meddling in other country's elections? Are you ok with that? Don't you think we should set an example before we go off on other nations for meddling in ours?

Yes and no.

 

Yes, we shouldnt do such things. We are supposed to be the biggest fan and exporter of democracy. We should respect that.

 

That said, I dont care what weve done. You dont fock with our central institutions. And if you do, we are capable of delivering consequences.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

That's where you're wrong my man. The left is using this to deligitimize Trump. If they cared Obama and company would have done something when it was going on. But they didn't want to upset the donor class, that do a lot of business with Russia. Do you think Russian oligarchs don't invest?

Ok. Youre right about the motive of the left. Fair enough.

 

That said, you agree that it has been happening. I would think, one damn thing all Americans should be able to agree on is that sh!t dont focking fly. Or shouldnt.

 

So ok. Obama bad. Now what?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

Now sanction them (done) and warn them of consequences if they do it again, don't simply say "cut it out " (Obama). I think we all know a shooting war is off the table. But sanctions can be increased, but bear in mind that Russia does a lot of business with our "allies". And enemies too.

[wiffleball 4,640]

Now sanction them (done) and warn them of consequences if they do it again, don't simply say "cut it out " (Obama). I think we all know a shooting war is off the table. But sanctions can be increased, but bear in mind that Russia does a lot of business with our "allies". And enemies too.

do you reward them by letting them join the G8 again for invading Ukraine and annexing Crimea?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

do you reward them by letting them join the G8 again before invading Ukraine and annexing Crimea?

With conditions.

[wiffleball 4,640]

With conditions.

... because Trump is already telegraph's his punches as he always does. He's been talking about all the Capital Improvements that the Russians have done since they invaded.

 

Sure, he broke into the house but look new curtains! LOL

[Hardcore troubadour 12,642]

... because Trump is already telegraph's his punches as he always does. He's been talking about all the Capital Improvements that the Russians have done since they invaded.

 

Sure, he broke into the house but look new curtains! LOL

I hear ya, but at some point you have to say what's done is done. Asking him to exit will get you nowhere. The whole world told us to get out of Iraq.

[wiffleball 4,640]

I hear ya, but at some point you have to say what's done is done. Asking him to exit will get you nowhere. The whole world told us to get out of Iraq.

Fair nuff.

 

The gang of 7.5

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I say they want to play internal politics, we should too. Im sure they have some Chechen or other raghead separatists who could use some good old American hardware.

[edjr 5,564]

The Donald did it again!