whoever drafted Jimmy Graham is going to get burned

[Sho Nuff 719]

Thanks to Eldleman, Brown and DJax - I'm rolling with Graham to the promise land. Glad the Saints lost - now they "must" win the game in Carolina to secure the division and a bye - they'll be more motivated and Graham will perform better than today.

 

Even if he goes scoreless - there's no way i wouldn't have drafted him if I had to do it over.

 

Yeah...he, Lacy, and Calvin pretty much locked up my #1 seed for me and made up for drafting Richardson instead of Lynch (that one still stings)

[FlaHawker 24]

 

Yeah...he, Lacy, and Calvin pretty much locked up my #1 seed for me and made up for drafting Richardson instead of Lynch (that one still stings)

You playing granny in the finals?

[Sho Nuff 719]

You playing granny in the finals?

 

Thanks for yet another useless comment on these boards and proving yourself a hypocrite (which is not shocking at all).

 

Says the alias troll PS Clownfish and Sho Nuff_34 couldn't ignore me if they tried. I'm in their heads 24/7. In fact, I think my new nickname for Sho Nuff_34 is going to be Chime. I mean even if I don't address him he chimes into all my business on this bored.

[gtthom86 5]

You playing granny in the finals?

i always get a chuckle out of the focking idiots that for some reason believe that a players value late in the season was/is equal to their ADP before the season started. but hey dude, at least your smarter than a gold fish

[Sho Nuff 719]

i always get a chuckle out of the focking idiots that for some reason believe that a players value late in the season was/is equal to their ADP before the season started. but hey dude, at least your smarter than a gold fish

 

He is just following me around (as he does quite a few people)...getting his snarky comments in because people have rightfully called him out for the crap he does here and in the Geek Club.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Are we going to get burned in 2014 as well? Because i own him in a dynasty league and i can already feel the heat rising!

[BufordT 371]

This thread was always good for a couple of laughs per week.

 

That said, does the emergence of some of these young TE's along with Gronk and Pitta being healthy and other solid guys like V Davis decrease the value of owning a Jimmy Graham this year??

 

I've had excellent luck taking him in the 2nd round the last 2 years. I a bit apprehensive about it this year, though, because there finally seems to be more productive options at TE this year then years past.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

The emergence of some young tes means after the first few you might as well wait on getting one. Graham still has a monsterous statistical advantage, possible even more so than last year. SO no, grahams value does not go down.

 

Its my opinion his value increases this year. He had a nagging ankle injury and a tougher sched last year. A full year of health, an easier sched, and an upgraded offense that takes even more pressure off of graham should equate to one hell of a year and a huge advantage.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Ah yes, a classic in the long line of fftoday traditions...The Jimmy Graham burned thread. I guess its as good a place as any to give JG/TE insight.

 

I def agree Graham is a tremendous pick and gives a great advantage at TE. I personally never draft him just cuz I cant stomach a first or second rnd pick for a te since I know I will hate my rbs later. I really prefer getting witten or pitta later after the dust settles on my rbs and wrs. Then its just a value game of getting the last qb (wich is a stud like romo or ryan) or the last decent te that is involved in their offense like Witten.

 

I believe a good strat with JG is to go all in on non rbs and then platoon a slew of bums hoping to hit gold with sleepers. An example would be to try and get Graham plus a top 5 wr and top 3 qb in the first 3 rnds to give yourself a top tier guy at all 3 non rb positions. Then just get as many value rbs as you...Eh screw all that, just take rbs early and stop fooling yourself, the Graham owner never has a good season, its fackin fools gold! Gonna get burned if you take him!!

[BufordT 371]

Good post by FBN. Not sold yet. An easier schedule is noteworthy, though.

[DrG 94]

Graham has a nice big contract now. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to playing with various hurts with the money banked. I have taken him in the 2nd round before with success. I would agree with those posters that say you've got to come out of the 1st 2 rounds with at least one running back.

Graham fell to me last year in the 3rd round.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Well graham is still pretty young. it would be pretty shitty if he tanked the next few years.

[track 1 16]

hi

[IGotWorms 3,310]

[Candygram4Mongo 8]

 

I believe a good strat with JG is to go all in on non rbs and then platoon a slew of bums hoping to hit gold with sleepers. An example would be to try and get Graham plus a top 5 wr and top 3 qb in the first 3 rnds to give yourself a top tier guy at all 3 non rb positions. Then just get as many value rbs as you...

Its still early in the Mock Season, but this is where I think I'm heading.

Last year I got lucky picking Charles at 1.3, and watched pretty much every other 1st round RB tank.

I'll take Graham with confidence in the first, get the top WRs i need in ppr, Brees or Rogers, and scratch it out with scrubby RBs for 16 games.

[BCliffe 4]

LOL.

[Serpent 51]

It's all random, but I think taking Graham early isn't a bad option at all. He's pretty darn consistent. And he's pretty much matchup proof on top of that. That is why I like non-RB early on, early picks I want to be matchup proof because it's not like I can bench them and stick in somebody else. RBs I prefer taking late and then just playing the matchups. A mediocre RB playing against an awful run D usually performs better than a very good RB against a mediocre run D. There are maybe 3 RBs in the league that are matchup proof, so if you can guess which 3 they are, and then pick high enough, they are still worth the pick probably. But after that, the RBs really are not worth their draft slot in the first few rounds.

 

The non-RB positions put up similar stats weekly. If they're good they're just good. Defenses will make some impact but usually they can still do something.

 

Also if you take Graham, you can ignore the backup TE position and just grab someone when the bye week comes along. That extra slot can now go to another RB to rotate, especially early in the season.

[Drizzay 645]

Not quite "Tommy Maddox will throw for 5,000 yards" territory, but still a good one!

[BunnysBastatrds 1,913]

Just got finished listening to the local sports show here in Who Dat Nation. They are saying he looks better in this years camp than ever. The WR core is deeper than it's ever been and he will benefit from it more than anyone. Cook and Toon are opening up spaces that Graham will exploit while giving Colston and Stills the blocks. Graham is redefining the TE position.

[stonewall 647]

I will say this: with his price tag this year, he is only an injury away from burning a lot of owners......just like every other tier 1 player.

[Djgb13 2,338]

In a 12 team league it's dam near impossible to get the #1 TE graham, a top 5 wr, and one of the top 3 QBs in the first three rounds. I have yet to see Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, fall into the third round. Likewise, Dez, Marshall, Calvin, Green, and Thomas never make it to the third round either. So if you truly want to not draft a RB in the first two rounds then you best pick one up in the third. Reggie Bush, Ryan Mathews, CJ Spiller are usually all available then. You could get lucky and one of those hits this year but for my money I'd rather take a RB in the first round or at least the second round

[Geddy11 4]

2 td's in 18 pre-season snaps.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,578]

I am targetting Graham at 8 with one of the T1( WR's on the way back. My league is 6 pt td, so 3 QB's will go in first, leaving me to hopefully chose from Marshall, Julio, Brown, or even Lynch, Murray

[TheGiantJets 18]

Track1- after all this time you pop on and just say "hi". So are you drafting Jimmy?

[JtmoneyJag 25]

Drafted Jimmy Graham 2.04.... I'm not a big fan grabbing TE early and get the reason for drafting Graham, but couldn't pass that up.

[jackjohn 31]

Picking 7th. I'm pretty sure that the top 5 rbs and Calvin will be gone. The next tier of rb aren't that great, and one of the top wr's should be available at 2.4. So I might lean towards taking Graham in the 1st, grab a wr in the 2nd and volume pick a bunch of rb 3,4,5.

[track 1 16]

jimmy graham got paid and isn't even trying anymore

 

a lot of people are going to get burned for drafting him in the FIRST round.

[highsider5 36]

aww, hello old poster... hello old thread...

 

 

I missed one of you

[stonewall 647]

Wasn't there a similar thread about Megatron started last year also.....by Snatchit, maybe?

[GS3K 12]

I'm ready for Graham to burn me again. I always seem to pick late and I love it.

[jrbdmb 28]

Per RotoWorld, Graham will be out 2 - 3 weeks beyond his Week 6 bye.

 

Jimmy owners have just been burned!

 

[murf74 461]

Per RotoWorld, Graham will be out 2 - 3 weeks beyond his Week 6 bye.

 

Jimmy owners have just been burned!

 

Seems he may start getting the injury prone tag. Will drop him in my rankings next year. That basketball body isn't built like Gonzos was

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

If you wait long enough, eventually someone gets hurt then you can say"I told you so" and feel like you're the smartest in the room for the day. Good for you buddy.

[murf74 461]

If you wait long enough, eventually someone gets hurt then you can say"I told you so" and feel like you're the smartest in the room for the day. Good for you buddy.

I don't think that was OP point last year

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Indeed it was not. You know who/what I'm talking about.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I'd go so far as to say this thread is a year too late and owners have indeed been burned this year.

[giraldi02 470]

I'd go so far as to say this thread is a year too late and owners have indeed been burned this year.

[GS3K 12]

Ya'll boys ain't thinking right. Graham is going to sit out a bit get back healthy and then come back guns blazing. He's had great production up until recently and any good owner would have him backed up with a high upside T.E. Yeah it sucks to have a top pick go down but at least it's not a McCoy/A.P./Ball let down of epic proportions.

[stonewall 647]

No doubt

[murf74 461]

Ya'll boys ain't thinking right. Graham is going to sit out a bit get back healthy and then come back guns blazing. He's had great production up until recently and any good owner would have him backed up with a high upside T.E. Yeah it sucks to have a top pick go down but at least it's not a McCoy/A.P./Ball let down of epic proportions.

So it's good he got hurt so he can be out to try to get100% again then be dominant again

 

Ok makes sense? You drafted him to sit out and use his backup? Umm chalk this up as strangest post ever hoping it was sarcasm