MLB 2017

[Mungwater 588]

Did you guys see how uptons honerun went in the sherwin Williams can and they're not going to pay? Insurance companies are kvnts

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

 

 

No thanks

 

Last 16 outings, he has let up a run or more in 7 games

 

 

inning pitched and earned runs

 

0.2 1

1 1

0.1 3

0.1 0

1.1 0

1.1 0

1.1 2

2 0

1 1

1 0

1 0

0.1 1

1 1

3 0

 

 

Meh. ER for relievers is such a crap shoot in relevance. If they come in mid-inning, then the inherited runners stat probably means more. If they pitch to a batter or 2 and someone relieves them, they could be on the hook for a run that really isn't theirs.

 

Batters are hitting .232 against Kelly since the AS break (.204 overall) and his splits are much better on the road.

 

I am saying that having Kelly gives them some options and Barnes is half decent, especially at home. They have a decent bullpen.

[edjr 5,556]

 

Meh. ER for relievers is such a crap shoot in relevance. If they come in mid-inning, then the inherited runners stat probably means more. If they pitch to a batter or 2 and someone relieves them, they could be on the hook for a run that really isn't theirs.

 

Batters are hitting .232 against Kelly since the AS break (.204 overall) and his splits are much better on the road.

 

I am saying that having Kelly gives them some options and Barnes is half decent, especially at home. They have a decent bullpen.

 

Shockingly enough, prob the best in the majors

[cmh6476 750]

I owe crackattack and Hardcore Troubadore hats. I think.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,624]

Judge ties and breaks McGuires rookie record. Good, those steroid freaks shouldn't have any records.

[Big Blue 06 195]

Judge with 11 HR in his last 14 games, 13 in September.

 

After an ice cold July/August, he seems set to make a run through the rest of the season/playoffs.

[edjr 5,556]

Judge ties and breaks McGuires rookie record. Good, those steroid freaks shouldn't have any records.

 

juiced ball (fact)= everyone is cheating.

 

steroids = most players are cheating

[Hardcore troubadour 12,624]

 

juiced ball (fact)= everyone is cheating.

 

steroids = most players are cheating

Judge doesn't control the baseballs. A good kid has that record now, not a cheating cry baby.

[posty 2,296]

Judge ties and breaks McGuires rookie record. Good, those steroid freaks shouldn't have any records.

Who is McGuire?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,624]

Who is McGuire?

I can't help it that his white trash ancestors couldn't spell.

[edjr 5,556]

Who is McGuire?

 

Don't you remember Mark McGuire and Sammy Sooser?

[crackattack 513]

Kluber AL Cy Young winner

[ZeroTolerance 582]

AL Cy was a pretty easy decision, NL was a bit more interesting.

 

Voters apparently didn't think so though. Scherzer in a landslide.

[posty 2,296]

AL Cy was a pretty easy decision, NL was a bit more interesting.

 

Voters apparently didn't think so though. Scherzer in a landslide.

Yeah... Scherzer had a good year, but Kershaw should have won it...

[edjr 5,556]

who gives a sh1t about these bogus awards?

 

since Mo Vaughn beat out Joey Belle in 1995 and then Pedro didn't win the MVP in 1999 and voters actually admitted to leaving him off the ballot for being a pitcher.

 

Give me a focking break.

 

The whole thing is a sham.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,624]

who gives a sh1t about these bogus awards?

 

since Mo Vaughn beat out Joey Belle in 1995 and then Pedro didn't win the MVP in 1999 and voters actually admitted to leaving him off the ballot for being a pitcher.

 

Give me a focking break.

 

The whole thing is a sham.

No doubt. Rice over Guidry in 78 and Clemens over Mattingly in 86 were clear cases of anti NY bias. Gibson over Strawberry in 88 as well.

[Mungwater 588]

who gives a sh1t about these bogus awards?

 

since Mo Vaughn beat out Joey Belle in 1995 and then Pedro didn't win the MVP in 1999 and voters actually admitted to leaving him off the ballot for being a pitcher.

 

Give me a focking break.

 

The whole thing is a sham.

I think they're still interesting, not the total sham that the gold glove has become

[vuduchile 1,941]

Their agents care.

[edjr 5,556]

No doubt. Rice over Guidry in 78 and Clemens over Mattingly in 86 were clear cases of anti NY bias. Gibson over Strawberry in 88 as well.

 

shoe troll shoe

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Yeah... Scherzer had a good year, but Kershaw should have won it...

Nah. Max gave up 5 hits or less in 25 of 31 starts. Kershaw gave up 5 hits or less in 14 starts. Max had 10 or more K's in 15 starts, Kershaw 7. Max had a weird run of 6 no decisions in 9 starts that cost him 3-4 wins.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

who gives a sh1t about these bogus awards?

 

since Mo Vaughn beat out Joey Belle in 1995 and then Pedro didn't win the MVP in 1999 and voters actually admitted to leaving him off the ballot for being a pitcher.

One voter left him off for being a pitcher. The other was a d**chebag Yankees writer who said he left him off for being a pitcher, but had voted for two pitchers the year before (including being the only vote for one of those pitchers, who was 20-7 with a 4.41 ERA).

[edjr 5,556]

One voter left him off for being a pitcher. The other was a d**chebag Yankees writer who said he left him off for being a pitcher, but had voted for two pitchers the year before (including being the only vote for one of those pitchers, who was 20-7 with a 4.41 ERA).

 

SHAM

[Hardcore troubadour 12,624]

 

shoe troll shoe

What? Offering up proof agreeing with your statement is trolling? Why?

[ZeroTolerance 582]

 

SHAM

https://nypost.com/1999/11/24/why-i-left-pedro-off-my-mvp-ballot-mvp-voting-isnt-life-death-issue/

 

His pathetic attempt at an explanation.

[posty 2,296]

No doubt. Rice over Guidry in 78 and Clemens over Mattingly in 86 were clear cases of anti NY bias. Gibson over Strawberry in 88 as well.

Both Rice and Guidry had monster seasons... Guidry got the Cy, Rice the MVP, there is nothing to see here...

 

I don't have a problem with Clemens either... Mattingly only led the league in hits...

[Cruzer 1,992]

In what parallel universe or on what basis did the voters see Scherzer over Kershaw?

[edjr 5,556]

What? Offering up proof agreeing with your statement is trolling? Why?

 

At the time, Jim Rice had one of the single greatest seasons ever for a hitter.

 

Guidry had a superb season as well.

 

Both awards went as they should.

 

Are you comparing Pedro getting screwed out of MVP to Guidry losing in a fair vote?

[edjr 5,556]

Mattingly

 

Isn't it odd that it's always yankees that are some of the most overrated to have ever played baseball?

 

Mattingly was a nice player. Had some good, great years.

 

but a HOFer? One of the greats? crackah, please

[Reality 2,710]

Mattingly was one of the best to have ever played over a 6 year span, I'll take true greatness over a career of compiling stats any day of the year.

[edjr 5,556]

Mattingly was one of the best to have ever played over a 6 year span, I'll take true greatness over a career of compiling stats any day of the year.

 

Why are we re-writing history?

 

he was great for a 4 year span, tops.

 

 

OPS

 

83 .742

84 .918 (Evans lead with a .920)

85 .939 (Brett lead with a 1.022)

86 .967 (lead league)

87 .937 (Boggs lead 1.049)

88 .816 (Boggs lead .965)

89 .828 (Crimedog lead .924)

 

[Cruzer 1,992]

Before anyone gets offended, this is NOT an endorsement against Mattingly......... but I did run across this one time, was an interesting perspective.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/322261-don-mattingly-should-not-be-getting-any-hall-of-fame-votes

[Reality 2,710]

6 years, it's not up for debate. Save the OPS for somebody else, he looks good on that list as well.

 

Mattingly hit for power and drove in runs.

 

Please remember that this was the small ball era and most of the Big power hitters of the 80's had sh!t averages.

 

84' .343 23 100

85' .324 35 145

86' .352 31 113

87' .327 30 115

88' .311 18 88

89' .303 23 113

[edjr 5,556]

Even though the MVP voting is a joke. it can be used for things like this.

 

He wasn't in the top 20 in 88 and was 15th in 89

 

Not even close to one of the greatest for those 2 years

 

4 years he was great.

[vuduchile 1,941]

6 years, it's not up for debate. Save the OPS for somebody else, he looks good on that list as well.

 

Mattingly hit for power and drove in runs.

 

Please remember that this was the small ball era and most of the Big power hitters of the 80's had sh!t averages.

 

84' .343 23 100

85' .324 35 145

86' .352 31 113

87' .327 30 115

88' .311 18 88

89' .303 23 113

That's a pretty decent run.

[Reality 2,710]

Even though the MVP voting is a joke. it can be used for things like this.

 

He wasn't in the top 20 in 88 and was 15th in 89

 

Not even close to one of the greatest for those 2 years

 

4 years he was great.

 

You need to make up your mind on awards.. Either they matter or they don't.

[Reality 2,710]

That's a pretty decent run.

 

I didn't even mention he was the best defensive 1st baseman in the game during that time as well..

[edjr 5,556]

 

You need to make up your mind on awards.. Either they matter or they don't.

 

 

I do not.

 

You think MVP matters. being 20th and 15th in seasons when you're trying to use them as great seasons, cripples your argument

[edjr 5,556]

 

I didn't even mention he was the best defensive 1st baseman in the game during that time as well..

 

Jackie Bradley JR has yet to win a gold glove. another useless MLB award

[TimmySmith 2,782]

If Mattingly is in then so is Will Clark because their stats are virtually identical. Great players. Not HOFers.

 

And also Keith Hernandez. Same stats.

[Reality 2,710]

9 time Gold Glove winner, phenomenal 6 year run during the small ball era, power average and run producing numbers that were unmatched among his peers.

 

Give me Mattingly, you guys can have your Biggio's.