stonewall 647 Posted September 9, 2014 He is one heckuva lousy tipper. 20 cents on a $65 tab. In fairness, it could have been some horrible service. I consider myself an outstanding tipper (50% or more) when I get outstanding service....but if I am left with no further service after the food arrives, I will stiff them in a heartbeat. http://news.yahoo.com/lesean-mccoy-tip-restaurant-receipt-pyt-152436539.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted September 9, 2014 I never stiff . I don't know what that person might be going through that day . I am not perfect so how can I expect for someone else to be . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted September 9, 2014 On the bright side, they can take that receipt and sell it on Ebay for $20-$50?! This stuff gets faked all the time, it's hard telling if this is true or not? Even if it's true...he's a bad tipper...who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted September 9, 2014 So the server was rude and screwed up the order. I bet he is a liberal Millennial. They always feel entitled to other people's money for doing nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted September 9, 2014 I think this celebrity tip-shaming is bullshit. A person can TIP what they want. It's optional. If service isn't to your expectations you don't have to tip. Restaurants who show someone's bill an tip violate privacy in a private transaction with their customers and it's bullshit. Nobody has any right to see someone else's bill, or tipping habits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted September 9, 2014 I think this celebrity tip-shaming is bullshit. A person can TIP what they want. It's optional. If service isn't to your expectations you don't have to tip. Restaurants who show someone's bill an tip violate privacy in a private transaction with their customers and it's bullshit. Nobody has any right to see someone else's bill, or tipping habits. Servers make $2.13 an hour (unless it has gone up over the years)....you're suppose to tip. If service is crap, at least 10%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted September 9, 2014 I never stiff . I don't know what that person might be going through that day . I am not perfect so how can I expect for someone else to be . Have to disagree with you here. I understand that we all have bad days, and I am empathetic. I have one sometimes too.....but I do my job and serve my constituents, regardless. It's not their fault, and I still have a job to do.....adequately, at the very least. I would never expect payment for not doing my work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 9, 2014 what a stiff. If you gave me 45 million, id tip you a grand on a snickers bar purchase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted September 9, 2014 I think this celebrity tip-shaming is bullshit. A person can TIP what they want. It's optional. If service isn't to your expectations you don't have to tip. Restaurants who show someone's bill an tip violate privacy in a private transaction with their customers and it's bullshit. Nobody has any right to see someone else's bill, or tipping habits. I actually agree. If I were managing a restaurant if fire the server for posting it. You got a bad tip: Get over it, d1ck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 9, 2014 I actually agree. If I were managing a restaurant if fire the server for posting it. You got a bad tip: Get over it, d1ck. Nah man, if i was waiting on a millionaire id be so giddy I was about to get a huge tip. Id be sure to give the absolut ebest sertvice ever and even wipe his ass if need be. To get stiffed there sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted September 9, 2014 Nah man, if i was waiting on a millionaire id be so giddy I was about to get a huge tip. Id be sure to give the absolut ebest sertvice ever and even wipe his ass if need be. To get stiffed there sucks. Getting stiffed sucks but posting receipts online is a huge violation of the customer's privacy. I'm actually kind of surprised it isn't illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 10, 2014 Agreed that this person shouldn't be able to post a picture. I also believe in tipping generously... for a job well done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted September 10, 2014 Servers make $2.13 an hour (unless it has gone up over the years)....you're suppose to tip. If service is crap, at least 10%. That's between them and their employer. I certainly wouldn't work for a low wage like that. I charge my clients for my services and don't expect a tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 10, 2014 Wtf is this tmzfftoday.com? Everyone needs to not give a fock what mccoy tips some ######. I believe in tipping and think your a jag if you dont tip, but i definitely dont care enough to hear what sports stars do with their waitresses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted September 10, 2014 That's between them and their employer. I certainly wouldn't work for a low wage like that. I charge my clients for my services and don't expect a tip. All restaurants pay that low..it's just the way servers are paid. Their income comes from tips not hourly wage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted September 10, 2014 All restaurants pay that low..it's just the way servers are paid. Their income comes from tips not hourly wage. Then go to school and find another job. Nobody forced these people to be servers. My father told me he used to be a waiter. He then became a doctor. Didn't hear him about tips as a doctor. He said it was rough being a waiter but he didn't seem to be bitter about it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Niner Homer 3 Posted September 10, 2014 Wtf is this tmzfftoday.com? Everyone needs to not give a fock what mccoy tips some ######. I believe in tipping and think your a jag if you dont tip, but i definitely dont care enough to hear what sports stars do with their waitresses. That's a good one ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 10, 2014 i definitely dont care enough to hear what sports stars do with their waitresses. Would you like to head what I do with my waitresses? Muhahahahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,169 Posted September 10, 2014 Nah man, if i was waiting on a millionaire id be so giddy I was about to get a huge tip. Id be sure to give the absolut ebest sertvice ever and even wipe his ass if need be. To get stiffed there sucks.Perhaps this server didn't figure that out? Serving is like sales; you are compensated for success. Do well and you make good money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted September 10, 2014 It appears McCoy was not happy with the food. That has nothing to do with the service. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/LeSean-McCoy-tips-20-cents-at-PYT.html Also, the owner posted the receipt, not the server: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/PYT-owner-responds-to-LeSean-McCoy-20-cent-tip.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pecos Rattlers 5 Posted September 10, 2014 Tipping in the US is a bizarre thing. It is setup so that servers can't survive unless the customer pays them, but the customer isn't really explicitly told this. Nor should the customer be responsible for 80% of a worker's pay. That's not a tip IMO, that's their freaking paycheck. I used to only tip 15% for average service & lower for poor service. Now I feel guilty if I don't tip more, knowing how the whole thing is setup. At the same time, I really don't want to tip someone 15% if they gave me bad service :/ I'd like to be able to show my disapproval without feeling like I am depriving them of their basic livelihood. Honestly, we shouldn't be responsible for them getting a living wage. That's their employer's job. We should be giving them a little incentive for doing better. I love many things about the US, but I think we should change to match most of Europe on this. Pay our service industry folks a higher wage and remove tips. If you don't like the service, don't go back to that restaurant & post negative reviews on their website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Better Lucky Than Good 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Then go to school and find another job. Nobody forced these people to be servers. My father told me he used to be a waiter. He then became a doctor. Didn't hear him ###### about tips as a doctor. He said it was rough being a waiter but he didn't seem to be bitter about it either. If EVERYONE went to school, and got MDs and JDs and whatever else, some of those people would STILL be waiters because not everyone can be a doctor! You think this country has 250 million MD jobs or something? We still need waiters and truck drivers and janitors etc etc. That argument is such a cop out. Still. IMHO The type of waiter/waitress that would post this crap online, would also probably take out their crap day on a customer. So #### them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted September 10, 2014 If EVERYONE went to school, and got MDs and JDs and whatever else, some of those people would STILL be waiters because not everyone can be a doctor! You think this country has 250 million MD jobs or something? We still need waiters and truck drivers and janitors etc etc. That argument is such a cop out. Still. IMHO The type of waiter/waitress that would post this crap online, would also probably take out their crap day on a customer. So #### them The same can be said for every job. Maybe these servers should work retail then. Or fast food. That's just the way the world works. If you don't like your job, either deal with it or get a better one. I don't understand how a business model based on gouging the customer for service can continue to survive when the economy is in shambles. Do middle class people really still eat out and tip lavishly? I'm pretty comfortably above middle wage and I still almost never eat out at sit down restaurants. The only point of those places is if you're out on a date and it's expected, but even for my dates towards the end I'd just have a meal at home, being a skilled cook is a pretty admired trait in a man, why would you blow that opportunity with a crappy restaurant dinner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted September 10, 2014 That's just the way the world works. If you don't like your job, either deal with it or get a better one. I don't understand how a business model based on gouging the customer for service can continue to survive when the economy is in shambles. Do middle class people really still eat out and tip lavishly? Lavishly? You do realize McCoy's tip was 0.3%, right? Had he left just a 10% tip that's still 6 bucks. I've never waited before but simple math shows that if you can average 3 tables an hour and get like $5 per table that's over $30K a year (assuming a 40 hour week) which is more than a fair amount of people make even with degrees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted September 10, 2014 I have known people who were full-time waiters/waitresses that claimed that black people were generally poor or non tippers, and that this was common knowledge in the business. Could there be any validity to this, or were they simply being racist and/or stereotyping? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pecos Rattlers 5 Posted September 11, 2014 I read a blog about tipping that talked about which demographics tipped well and which didn't. They talked to servers who did rate blacks lower than other racial groups, but that might be due to their own bias *shrugs* For example, servers also rate Christians really low ... but what they really mean, is certain church groups who stiff on the tip on Sunday afternoon after church. This doesn't generalize well to 'all Christians tip poorly' IMO .. particularly since the server is not going to have any idea whether most people are Christian/Muslim/Atheist/etc. Be warned, It's really long: http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/04/everything-dont-know-tipping.html Here's a chart of who tips well and who doesn't, if you just want to see that: http://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Demographic-chart1.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GridironGuzzlers 3 Posted September 11, 2014 I have known people who were full-time waiters/waitresses that claimed that black people were generally poor or non tippers, and that this was common knowledge in the business. Could there be any validity to this, or were they simply being racist and/or stereotyping? in the 90's i was a waiter/bartender for 9 years. I heard this from other co-workers and friends in the business (I'm white) I never believed it or saw it. I think it was a racist thing. If you think you're going to get a bad tip you're not going to give good service - self fulfilling prophecy. I once had 4 gang banger looking dudes(at the risk of sounding racist lol) at my table and gave them the same excellent service i gave everyone. They were a little obnoxious but i was a professional and took care of them. At the end of the meal they gave me a $25 tip on a $50 check and thanked me for putting up with them. I usually worked nights but the biggest complaint i heard was from the lunch crowd-- white business men. Even the pretty gals couldnt get good get tips from them consistently. If you're in a service industry you have to understand bad tipping just comes with the territory. If i knew i gave good service and got a bad tip my attitude was that i was glad i didn't have to go home with them. Once one of my coworkers got a $1 tip on a $50 tab she followed them to the parking lot and gave him the $1 back and told him "you obviously need it more than i do". Part of me was proud of her but it was unprofessional and she got fired when they came back in and complained. But on the other hand if no-tippin Pippen sat at my table i'd turn it to another server lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,300 Posted September 11, 2014 That's between them and their employer. I certainly wouldn't work for a low wage like that. I charge my clients for my services and don't expect a tip. You're one cheap bastard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,300 Posted September 11, 2014 Tipping in the US is a bizarre thing. It is setup so that servers can't survive unless the customer pays them, but the customer isn't really explicitly told this. Nor should the customer be responsible for 80% of a worker's pay. That's not a tip IMO, that's their freaking paycheck. I used to only tip 15% for average service & lower for poor service. Now I feel guilty if I don't tip more, knowing how the whole thing is setup. At the same time, I really don't want to tip someone 15% if they gave me bad service :/ I'd like to be able to show my disapproval without feeling like I am depriving them of their basic livelihood. Honestly, we shouldn't be responsible for them getting a living wage. That's their employer's job. We should be giving them a little incentive for doing better. I love many things about the US, but I think we should change to match most of Europe on this. Pay our service industry folks a higher wage and remove tips. If you don't like the service, don't go back to that restaurant & post negative reviews on their website. They could charge you more for the food but instead we have the system of tipping. Folks who don't tip decently are essentially ripping people off IMO. Unless the service is truly terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 11, 2014 Do you realize how much you can make waiting tables? Do you know how many jobs pay minimum wage with no tipping? I worked back of the house making 10 bucks an hour for 12 hour shifts at a nice restaurant in Nashville. The waitstaff, mostly cute young girls would work a 6 hour shift and easily clear 300 bucks that they didn't pay taxes on. BOO FOCKING HOO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,300 Posted September 11, 2014 Do you realize how much you can make waiting tables? Do you know how many jobs pay minimum wage with no tipping? I worked back of the house making 10 bucks an hour for 12 hour shifts at a nice restaurant in Nashville. The waitstaff, mostly cute young girls would work a 6 hour shift and easily clear 300 bucks that they didn't pay taxes on. BOO FOCKING HOO! I agree that it's stupid how much they can make it expensive restaurants. But that's the system we have chosen. Personally I'd rather pay a few bucks more for my meal and have the restaurant owner pay an actual wage, but that's just not how it works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 11, 2014 I agree that it's stupid how much they can make it expensive restaurants. But that's the system we have chosen. Personally I'd rather pay a few bucks more for my meal and have the restaurant owner pay an actual wage, but that's just not how it works Completely agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 12, 2014 I typically will throw a 5 spot out there on top of the 30-35 I spend on the talent on a lonely Tuesday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted September 12, 2014 in the 90's i was a waiter/bartender for 9 years. I heard this from other co-workers and friends in the business (I'm white) I never believed it or saw it. I think it was a racist thing. If you think you're going to get a bad tip you're not going to give good service - self fulfilling prophecy. I once had 4 gang banger looking dudes(at the risk of sounding racist lol) at my table and gave them the same excellent service i gave everyone. They were a little obnoxious but i was a professional and took care of them. At the end of the meal they gave me a $25 tip on a $50 check and thanked me for putting up with them. I usually worked nights but the biggest complaint i heard was from the lunch crowd-- white business men. Even the pretty gals couldnt get good get tips from them consistently. If you're in a service industry you have to understand bad tipping just comes with the territory. If i knew i gave good service and got a bad tip my attitude was that i was glad i didn't have to go home with them. Once one of my coworkers got a $1 tip on a $50 tab she followed them to the parking lot and gave him the $1 back and told him "you obviously need it more than i do". Part of me was proud of her but it was unprofessional and she got fired when they came back in and complained. But on the other hand if no-tippin Pippen sat at my table i'd turn it to another server lol She saw that in a movie, a Ryan Reynolds movie. I forget the name now but it's pretty much the exact same thing that happened in the movie, which took place mostly in a diner. Exact same line. And of course white businessmen don't tip much if at all. They know how to make and keep money. It's a constant complaint that wealthy people don't waste their money. Well no . That is why they're wealthy. Stupid people blow all their money then whine that someone owes them more. Ridiculous. Travel around the world, the tipping thing only exists in the US. Also seems like the only place without universal healthcare. Also the only place with massive student loans for an education. There are major structural problems with the greed style economy in the US. Now I'm not stating tipping is a major problem, but it shows one of the issues where employers won't pay living wages and are allowed to get away with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted September 12, 2014 She saw that in a movie, a Ryan Reynolds movie. I forget the name now but it's pretty much the exact same thing that happened in the movie, which took place mostly in a diner. Exact same line.. Waiting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,300 Posted September 12, 2014 And of course white businessmen don't tip much if at all. They know how to make and keep money. It's a constant complaint that wealthy people don't waste their money. Well no ######. That is why they're wealthy. Stupid people blow all their money then whine that someone owes them more. Ridiculous. So leaving a decent tip is "wasting money"? How about not going out to eat at all if you're too focking cheap to tip? Save even more money that way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JtmoneyJag 25 Posted September 12, 2014 Wtf is this tmzfftoday.com? Everyone needs to not give a fock what mccoy tips some ######. I believe in tipping and think your a jag if you dont tip, but i definitely dont care enough to hear what sports stars do with their waitresses. Hey, Jag fans know how to tip! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JtmoneyJag 25 Posted September 12, 2014 So leaving a decent tip is "wasting money"? How about not going out to eat at all if you're too focking cheap to tip? Save even more money that way People like this have obviously not worked in the restaurant business. If you can't afford to tip or don't like the system used in the US then don't go out to eat or move to another country. I love how people justify being cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,300 Posted September 12, 2014 People like this have obviously not worked in the restaurant business. If you can't afford to tip or don't like the system used in the US then don't go out to eat or move to another country. I love how people justify being cheap. Yup..."it makes good business sense not to tip!" So does outright STEALING but we don't condone that unless it's done by investment bankers on Wall Street Share this post Link to post Share on other sites