MDC 5,877 Posted October 22, 2018 Voting fraud alive and well in Texas. Just got back from Early Voting.. I didn't have a photo ID - so I showed them a cut out picture of Jason Garrett... Not only did they still allow me to vote - they let me vote 10 times! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted October 22, 2018 Voting fraud alive and well in Texas. Just got back from Early Voting.. I didn't have a photo ID - so I showed them a cut out picture of Jason Garrett... Not only did they still allow me to vote - they let me vote 10 times! The first nine times you voted for Zeke off tackle, then the 10th time you voted to punt. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet this is good, however i still believe proper documentation and identification is important in any society. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet That looks like an ACLU link, if I were in a rain storm and someone from the ACLU suggesting it was raining, I would go ask two more people just to be sure.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,121 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet Anyone that cant figure out how to get identification shouldnt be allowed to vote anyways. What a bunch of baboons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet i wonder how many of these people that "can't afford" IDs buy lottery tickets or purchase and drink alcohol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 this is good, however i still believe proper documentation and identification is important in any society. and this is fine..you believe people should have ID, no matter what, fine. just don't start an ignorant thread with a bunch of whataboutisms.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,121 Posted October 22, 2018 As a leftie, i never understood why this was problematic. you want to vote, show your valid id Because the DNC as you know it would be done, thats why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 As a leftie, i never understood why this was problematic. you want to vote, show your valid id This is addressed in the link. Because the DNC as you know it would be done, thats why. As a leftie Bier, what do you think of 90s comment here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted October 22, 2018 and this is fine..you believe people should have ID, no matter what, fine. just don't start an ignorant thread with a bunch of whataboutisms.. every legal citizen has a right to vote. I would like them to do so. I do not think it is ok to just walk in of of the street and expect to vote. we all should have to present proof of authenticity. I also believe that attaining ID should not entail financial hardship. Waive the fees for all I care. Let's help people get proper identification. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 every legal citizen has a right to vote. I would like them to do so. I do not think it is ok to just walk in of of the street and expect to vote. we all should have to present proof of authenticity. I also believe that attaining ID should not entail financial hardship. Waive the fees for all I care. Let's help people get proper identification. You can't help someone that doesn't want help. And you have 50% of the politicians that rely upon illegals to help them keep their jobs in government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 You can't help someone that doesn't want help. And you have 50% of the politicians that rely upon illegals to help them keep their jobs in government. here is another one Bier...when you see the complete stupidity of the arguments for voter id laws, do you think maybe this isn't actually a problem and people on the right are trying to suppress votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,593 Posted October 22, 2018 I thought Obamacare provided health insurance for millions of poor people? They need an ID for that, don't they? This should not be an issue anymore. Next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted October 22, 2018 here is another one Bier...when you see the complete stupidity of the arguments for voter id laws, do you think maybe this isn't actually a problem and people on the right are trying to suppress votes. Just of those too stupid to figure out how to get an ID. How do those people get jobs, pay taxes, etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,322 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet Yea...I'm gonna go ahead and say that after reading that, I don't buy into it much at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted October 22, 2018 You can't help someone that doesn't want help. And you have 50% of the politicians that rely upon illegals to help them keep their jobs in government. I wouldn't mind seeing harsher enforcement against businesses that keep "illegals" employed. The system needs major adjustments across the board. We can't allow every person that desires citizenship. However, let's get productive people in...let's get their taxes as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 22, 2018 here is another one Bier...when you see the complete stupidity of the arguments for voter id laws, do you think maybe this isn't actually a problem and people on the right are trying to suppress votes. flip that around and emphasize the stupidity of not requiring ID, do you think maybe voter oppression isnt actually a problem and the people on the left are trying anyway to garner votes whether they are illegal or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 here is another one Bier...when you see the complete stupidity of the arguments for voter id laws, do you think maybe this isn't actually a problem and people on the right are trying to suppress votes. What are your reasons for wanting illegals to vote? Aspiring nut case government employee? You need the illegal vote to win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 I wouldn't mind seeing harsher enforcement against businesses that keep "illegals" employed. The system needs major adjustments across the board. We can't allow every person that desires citizenship. However, let's get productive people in...let's get their taxes as well. Years back when I worked as a waiter and bartender in various restaurants. Many of the busboys and kitchen help were illegal. I would have a couple beers with these guys from time to time and every single one of them sent most of their dollars back to Mexico where their families live. And this was in Midwest establishments, not southwest. There are a gazillion untaxed dollars sent out of this country instead of being reinvested back into our economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 flip that around and emphasize the stupidity of not requiring ID, do you think maybe voter oppression isnt actually a problem and the people on the left are trying anyway to garner votes whether they are illegal or not? fair question, however we hadn't had any voter id laws in the country until 2006. quick research shows voter turnout in Indy an Wisconsin has dropped since their id laws have gone into effect. What are your reasons for wanting illegals to vote? Aspiring nut case government employee? You need the illegal vote to win? troll on troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted October 22, 2018 Voting fraud alive and well in Texas. Just got back from Early Voting.. I didn't have a photo ID - so I showed them a cut out picture of Jason Garrett... Not only did they still allow me to vote - they let me vote 10 times! That vote doesn't count until Jerry says so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 22, 2018 fair question, however we hadn't had any voter id laws in the country until 2006. quick research shows voter turnout in Indy an Wisconsin has dropped since their id laws have gone into effect. well then the ID laws obviously worked. That would be the outcome of those voting illegally could no longer do so. That result only proves more so that the laws are needed. No ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 fair question, however we hadn't had any voter id laws in the country until 2006. quick research shows voter turnout in Indy an Wisconsin has dropped since their id laws have gone into effect. troll on troll See, what we have here is a person with most likely a very low IQ. By evidence of name calling when not knowing how articulate something he feels so strongly about, one who just follows the left blindly, and then grabs an ACLU article and claims it's something profound and important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 well then the ID laws obviously worked. That would be the outcome of those voting illegally could no longer do so. That result only proves more so that the laws are needed. No ? No. The only thing it proves is less people voted. You are claiming it is because they were voting illegally with nothing to back it up. It may be that less Americans voted because they didn't have id. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted October 22, 2018 well then the ID laws obviously worked. That would be the outcome of those voting illegally could no longer do so. That result only proves more so that the laws are needed. No ? Solid reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted October 22, 2018 Are government issued IDs necessarily photo ID and where do you get them? The DMV. How do we feel about waiving the fees and providing an application online? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 904 Posted October 22, 2018 See, what we have here is a person with most likely a very low IQ. By evidence of name calling when not knowing how articulate something he feels so strongly about, one who just follows the left blindly, and then grabs an ACLU article and claims it's something profound and important. keep on trolling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 keep on trolling Exactly proves my point. Keep up the good work. Keep pushing for allowing people to be able to vote without IDs, and we will keep getting Nancy Pelosis in power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted October 22, 2018 As of September 2016, 33 states have enacted some form of voter ID requirement. I am glad that common sense is ruling the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 22, 2018 No. The only thing it proves is less people voted. You are claiming it is because they were voting illegally with nothing to back it up. It may be that less Americans voted because they didn't have id. well why are you claiming less people voted ? With nothing to back it up ofcourse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 22, 2018 good thread guys https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet How do those same 'disenfranchised voters' board an airplane? Buy a new car? Drive? Withdraw funds from bank? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,593 Posted October 22, 2018 How do those same 'disenfranchised voters' board an airplane? Buy a new car? Drive? Withdraw funds from bank? Use Obamacare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 22, 2018 No. The only thing it proves is less people voted. Less people voting.......why? Because they can't can't prove who they are. Exactly..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,878 Posted October 22, 2018 How do those same 'disenfranchised voters' board an airplane? Buy a new car? Drive? Withdraw funds from bank? Do you need an ID to cash a welfare check at one of those cash stores? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 22, 2018 Do you need an ID to cash a welfare check at one of those cash stores? Ask wiff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,172 Posted October 22, 2018 I'm always confused on this. Are Democrats people so poor that they can't afford an ID? Or intellectual elites who think we repubtards are dumb because we don't want illegals and uneducated homeless people to vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 23, 2018 I'm always confused on this. Are Democrats people so poor that they can't afford an ID? Or intellectual elites who think we repubtards are dumb because we don't want illegals and uneducated homeless people to vote? I’m also confused how you’ve determined the voting behavior of people who don’t have IDs? Are any Republicans poor and/or uneducated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566 Posted October 23, 2018 I don't see why its an issue to have an ID, honestly, and no leftist website can convince me otherwise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,593 Posted October 23, 2018 These people don't do taxes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites