Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted November 29, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/surviving-suicide/2018/11/28/suicide-prevention-suicidal-thoughts-research-funding/971336002/ 47000 amuricans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 29, 2018 Mental Illness is not well-understood or accepted. Are drug-related deaths in there I wonder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted November 29, 2018 I miss wiff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 29, 2018 I miss wiff I can help you there, it really boils down to two things....breathing control and trigger control.....take the breath, but don't wait until you fully exhale, you want to pull the trigger just BEFORE you reach the peak bottom of that breath....and the finger should act independently of all else, as if its separate from your body.....it moves on its own and the rest of you is still....motionless, as if floating, totally relaxed.....gently pressure on that trigger JUST before the bottom of the breath.... no tensing, no anticipation, just acceptance..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted November 29, 2018 I can help you there, it really boils down to two things.... Pressure and Time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted November 29, 2018 Especially those closely associated with the Clintons or Big Pharma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted November 29, 2018 Especially those closely associated with the Clintons or Big Pharma Okay but what about the other 17,000? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted November 29, 2018 Maybe they should tell people suicide is dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 29, 2018 Maybe they should tell people suicide is dangerous. Well, if their dead they cannot sue, so no need for warning labels I guess, but back to really important stuff, any old women spill coffee on themselves today yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted November 29, 2018 If he dies, he dies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 29, 2018 Thoughts on why suicides are way up? I wonder if its related at all to the opioid crisis or economic stuff. Its a subject I care about a lot since it disproportionately affects white middle aged men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 29, 2018 Thoughts on why suicides are way up? I wonder if its related at all to the opioid crisis or economic stuff. Its a subject I care about a lot since it disproportionately affects white middle aged men. That was my first thought too, up above, how do they classify an opiod-related death? Is it ever categorized as a suicide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 29, 2018 That was my first thought too, up above, how do they classify an opiod-related death? Is it ever categorized as a suicide? I would doubt it, but I cant say for sure. Pen probably knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted November 29, 2018 Thoughts on why suicides are way up? I wonder if its related at all to the opioid crisis or economic stuff. Its a subject I care about a lot since it disproportionately affects white middle aged men. I didn't read the whole article; did it talk about white middle aged men? Anyway, I would guess that increased suicide is tied to increased inability to deal with adversity. Rudolph in 2018 would have offed himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 29, 2018 As with any stats, they need to be broken down, and the immediate assessment is the one you want to avoid, the truth is always far more interesting than opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 186 Posted November 29, 2018 Maybe they should tell people suicide is dangerous. Some of these, possibly even the majority, are more dangerous if they don't kill themselves. I welcome thinning the herd of bad machines., Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted November 29, 2018 Ban suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted November 29, 2018 Do we need themin the Gene Pool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,124 Posted November 29, 2018 What states saw the highest increase in suicide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted November 29, 2018 Studies have shown the more suicide is talked about the more people will commit suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 29, 2018 I didn't read the whole article; did it talk about white middle aged men? I didnt either but Ive read a bunch of other articles about it and suicides are notably up among that group. Article is 5 years old but there are other sources out there. Suicide up 40% among WMAM in a 10-year period: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201305/white-middle-age-suicide-in-america-skyrockets%3famp Suicides overwhelmingly white men between 45-65: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna762221 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted November 29, 2018 21st century natural selection? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted November 29, 2018 I didn't read the whole article; did it talk about white middle aged men? I didnt read any of the article. I think it was was related to Clinton accusors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted November 30, 2018 I didnt either but Ive read a bunch of other articles about it and suicides are notably up among that group. Article is 5 years old but there are other sources out there. Suicide up 40% among WMAM in a 10-year period: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201305/white-middle-age-suicide-in-america-skyrockets%3famp Appreciate the link. That author is apparently an MD but couldn't put a sentence together if he had a gun to his head, pardon the pun. Nevertheless, the numbers are shocking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 30, 2018 Appreciate the link. That author is apparently an MD but couldn't put a sentence together if he had a gun to his head, pardon the pun. Nevertheless, the numbers are shocking. I was really surprised to. Ive been coming over a lot of articles like this the past few years. I knew men were far more likely to commit suicide. I had no idea it was overwhelmingly white men of roughly my age range. Hang in there white middle aged geeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted November 30, 2018 Cause you feel life's unreal, and you're living a lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 30, 2018 Hang in there white middle aged geeks. Poor choice of words MDC. I think we may have lost wiff and volty. Volty I'm sure is just a bored suicide, but with all the sh!t wiff has said of late, I worry about that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted November 30, 2018 Volty has been dead to me for a few years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted November 30, 2018 Wiff may be dead, but why would Volty quit this place? Admittedly I've been off the grid much of this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted November 30, 2018 Volty has been dead to me for a few years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 30, 2018 Poor choice of words MDC. I think we may have lost wiff and volty. Volty I'm sure is just a bored suicide, but with all the sh!t wiff has said of late, I worry about that guy. Damn I hope thats not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted November 30, 2018 Did wiff say anything that would cause the ban hammer lately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted November 30, 2018 Did wiff say anything that would cause the ban hammer lately? On most sites, of course. Here, I don't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 30, 2018 Did wiff say anything that would cause the ban hammer lately? Hes made suicidal comments a number of times in recent years. Then on Thanksgiving, he made a really odd (even for wiff) kinda wistful post about it being his last Thanksgiving. Was a nice one. Probably my last one. And if it is that's cool. Got to meet the newest member of the family. This beautiful black dog. Cool as hell. And got to leave Bert a voicemail and hmong water txt. Good day. Lot of homemade beer and a few shots just for fun. Beautiful night. Big moon. Nice people. The last of my uncles. Good night. Hope you guys had the same. Think that is his last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted November 30, 2018 Hes made suicidal comments a number of times in recent years. Then on Thanksgiving, he made a really odd (even for wiff) kinda wistful post about it being his last Thanksgiving. Think that is his last post. I remember seeing that at the time. Not good. Holidays are a rough time for many people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted November 30, 2018 I remember seeing that at the time. Not good. Holidays are a rough time for many people. yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted November 30, 2018 I remember seeing that at the time. Not good. Holidays are a rough time for many people. Yeah I saw it too and assumed he was being maudlin / nostalgic or whatever. I really like Wiff and hope hes okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted November 30, 2018 Id be curious as to how many are 25 and under...snowflakes and all...gender confusion...putting your whole life on social media for criticism... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted November 30, 2018 Id be curious as to how many are 25 and under...snowflakes and all...gender confusion...putting your whole life on social media for criticism... that under 25 has historically been high..... impulsive, less mature, less able to look at things long term, emotions are more intense. also, elderly.... aches and pains, losing friends and family, less independence, less able to do things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites