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I'm already a fan of science, thanks. This march however seems more about being anti-trump and pro-greeny than pro-science. :dunno:

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I'm already a fan of science, thanks. This march however seems more about being anti-trump and pro-greeny than pro-science. :dunno:

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Remember this science from the first Earth day???

 


18 spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970

 


 

 

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.
3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”
7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.
8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.
12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.
13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.
14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.
16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”
18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

 

 

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I'm already a fan of science, thanks. This march however seems more about being anti-trump and pro-greeny than pro-science. :dunno:

 

Well...'pro-greeny' is rather an Earth Day theme - and the anti-Trump sentiment stems from drastic cuts to environmental protections that had been having a positive effect on (everyone's) quality of life. At the very least, it was an enjoyable event that brought communities together, harmed no one and provided good exercise. :)

 

I wasn't able to make it to the march, but did manage to swing by a local shop for Record Store Day, where I snagged three vintage albums (Spirit, Blues Project and my ol' pal Elvin Bishop), a couple of samples and some free cake(!) - so all in all, a pretty great day.

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Nothing like celebrating earth day by enjoying a double bacon cheeseburger from five guys.

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Lots of people cleaning up the sh!t around Lake Of The Isles this morning while we were walking our dogs. We much appreciated it.

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Well...'pro-greeny' is rather an Earth Day theme - and the anti-Trump sentiment stems from drastic cuts to environmental protections that had been having a positive effect on (everyone's) quality of life. At the very least, it was an enjoyable event that brought communities together, harmed no one and provided good exercise. :)

 

I wasn't able to make it to the march, but did manage to swing by a local shop for Record Store Day, where I snagged three vintage albums (Spirit, Blues Project and my ol' pal Elvin Bishop), a couple of samples and some free cake(!) - so all in all, a pretty great day.

I don't think you get it. These guys are in MAGA mode. And of course, to MAGA you need to willfully ignore everything that made America MAGA to begin with (science/technology).

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I don't think you get it. These guys are in MAGA mode. And of course, to MAGA you need to willfully ignore everything that made America MAGA to begin with (science/technology).

 

I've never been huge on Trump and I've been consistent here about that. With that backdrop, I'm more of a scientist than you are. And I asked Marshall about the conflating of Earth Day with a Science March. He responded that Earth Day is pro-greeny, in what may be the Captain Obvious post of the month. And then some stuff about vintage albums and free cake! I guess that is winning, liberal style? :dunno:

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I've never been huge on Trump and I've been consistent here about that. With that backdrop, I'm more of a scientist than you are. And I asked Marshall about the conflating of Earth Day with a Science March. He responded that Earth Day is pro-greeny, in what may be the Captain Obvious post of the month. And then some stuff about vintage albums and free cake! I guess that is winning, liberal style? :dunno:

I'm not sure I follow what point you're trying to make?

 

Today, the man you voted for said "Our Nation is blessed with abundant natural resources and awe-inspiring beauty. Americans are rightly grateful for these God-given gifts and have an obligation to safeguard them for future generations, Trump said in the statement Saturday. My Administration is committed to keeping our air and water clean, to preserving our forests, lakes, and open spaces, and to protecting endangered sprices".

 

While he filled his cabinet with guys like Pruitt and Perry, who have either sued or wanted to dismantle the departments they now run. Regardless of how you feel about MM climate change as a whole, nobody of scientific mind can deny that protecting our environment and using resources responsibly is critical to both the survival of the planet and mankind as a whole. This isn't a partisan opinion. It's a fact.

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Spent it on a hilly and wet 10 mile hike with my sons BoyScout Troop.

Rainy start...sunny for about 6 miles and then the downpour.

I can vouch for drymax socks plus merrell waterproof boots though. My feet were the only dry thing on me.

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I'm not sure I follow what point you're trying to make?

 

Today, the man you voted for said "Our Nation is blessed with abundant natural resources and awe-inspiring beauty. Americans are rightly grateful for these God-given gifts and have an obligation to safeguard them for future generations, Trump said in the statement Saturday. My Administration is committed to keeping our air and water clean, to preserving our forests, lakes, and open spaces, and to protecting endangered sprices".

 

While he filled his cabinet with guys like Pruitt and Perry, who have either sued or wanted to dismantle the departments they now run. Regardless of how you feel about MM climate change as a whole, nobody of scientific mind can deny that protecting our environment and using resources responsibly is critical to both the survival of the planet and mankind as a whole. This isn't a partisan opinion. It's a fact.

 

I can't think of how better to state what I said so I'll leave it at that. :cheers:

 

I voted for Trump with my fingers over my nostrils to cover the stench of my choice, but I did it because I think (1) Hillary is somewhere on the spectrum between amorality and evil, (2) a conservative SCOTUS (i.e., err on the side of not changing things) is overall better for the country than an activist court, and (3) there is a value to draining the swamp in organizations like the EPA, which have opposed solutions like coal and nuclear when each have shown tremendous improvements in cleanliness and safety respectively. :thumbsup:

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Open borders arent good for the environment.

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I can't think of how better to state what I said so I'll leave it at that. :cheers:

 

I voted for Trump with my fingers over my nostrils to cover the stench of my choice, but I did it because I think (1) Hillary is somewhere on the spectrum between amorality and evil, (2) a conservative SCOTUS (i.e., err on the side of not changing things) is overall better for the country than an activist court, and (3) there is a value to draining the swamp in organizations like the EPA, which have opposed solutions like coal and nuclear when each have shown tremendous improvements in cleanliness and safety respectively. :thumbsup:

Trimming the fat is not the same as appointing people that are against the very agencies they will run.

 

This is more like a flat earther running NASA.

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Trimming the fat is not the same as appointing people that are against the very agencies they will run.

 

This is more like a flat earther running NASA.

 

Indeed.

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I've never been huge on Trump and I've been consistent here about that. With that backdrop, I'm more of a scientist than you are. And I asked Marshall about the conflating of Earth Day with a Science March. He responded that Earth Day is pro-greeny, in what may be the Captain Obvious post of the month. And then some stuff about vintage albums and free cake! I guess that is winning, liberal style? :dunno:

But why are you upset?

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Didn't science create all the stuff that makes pollution?

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I wonder how much trash they left behind in the wake of their marches?

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I wonder how much trash they left behind in the wake of their marches?

Bet that doesn't receive much coverage, if any.....

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no 18 is awesome, thank God we created global warming to fix that

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MMGW

 

Science has been consistently wrong since the beginning of time. Where should we start, with the earth being round.? How about the ice age that were predicted a few decades ago? Science pushes theories as facts. The MMGW model has been wrong every year since its existence (17 Years?). Spending tens of Trillion of dollars on a theory is bad for everyone except the billionaires this farce is creating. Does anyone even know where this money is going? Where the money is coming from? Who is monitoring this money? What is the goal? What are we getting for our money? I am sure all we will get is a bunch of Green Billionaires.

 

Science doesn’t have the answers. It guesses, tests, and guesses again.

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A former member of the Obama administration claims Washington D.C. often uses “misleading” news releases about climate data to influence public opinion.

 

Former Energy Department Undersecretary Steven Koonin told The Wall Street Journal Monday that bureaucrats within former President Barack Obama’s administration spun scientific data to manipulate public opinion.

 

“What you saw coming out of the press releases about climate data, climate analysis, was, I’d say, misleading, sometimes just wrong,” Koonin said, referring to elements within the Obama administration he said were responsible for manipulating climate data.

 

 

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/former-obama-official-says-climate-data-was-often-misleading-and-wrong/#ixzz4fDVFPA1y

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A former member of the Obama administration claims Washington D.C. often uses misleading news releases about climate data to influence public opinion.

 

Former Energy Department Undersecretary Steven Koonin told The Wall Street Journal Monday that bureaucrats within former President Barack Obamas administration spun scientific data to manipulate public opinion.

 

What you saw coming out of the press releases about climate data, climate analysis, was, Id say, misleading, sometimes just wrong, Koonin said, referring to elements within the Obama administration he said were responsible for manipulating climate data.

 

 

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/former-obama-official-says-climate-data-was-often-misleading-and-wrong/#ixzz4fDVFPA1y

Interesting stuff. They cut their own throats with their deception.

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