rvolpe21 5 Posted October 29, 2013 the colts could possibly make a legit run, does he hold the job or does brown take over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
track 1 16 Posted October 29, 2013 you can't expect from him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted October 29, 2013 I was just offered Brady and Richardson for Rivers and Olsen and declined super quick hes garbage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 29, 2013 I have to rely on him this week and I have 0 confidence in him. His schedule is by far the toughest, and he can't even have a good game against the weak opponents. Garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wazu 14 Posted October 29, 2013 You can expect him to never, ever find the hole, but look really good after defenders have him wrapped up and he somehow heroically muscles the ball forward for 1-2 yards instead of taking a loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted October 29, 2013 I don't expect much from him anymore. He will ride the but I won't drop him (yet) and no one will touch him in trade offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 29, 2013 It would be nice if people would think before they post here. A lot of bitterness and misinformation. There is no way Indy has the toughest schedule. They have the tasty Houston matchup this week and Tenn is scheduled twice more. TRich is the currently listed as the 15th RB for ROW on fantasypros.com consensus of 9 (at this time). So, stop with the insane dropping nonsense. If you've got him you're probably playing him. Got to hope the bye week got him acclimated. He is in the late Sunday game against Houston so you get to watch him with your undivided attention. There is still hope he can turn it around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted October 29, 2013 It would be nice if people would think before they post here. A lot of bitterness and misinformation. There is no way Indy has the toughest schedule. They have the tasty Houston matchup this week and Tenn is scheduled twice more. TRich is the currently listed as the 15th RB for ROW on fantasypros.com consensus of 9 (at this time). So, stop with the insane dropping nonsense. If you've got him you're probably playing him. Got to hope the bye week got him acclimated. He is in the late Sunday game against Houston so you get to watch him with your undivided attention. There is still hope he can turn it around. Couldn't disagree more. He has been outplayed each and every week by waiver wire pickups. If Trent is one of your two starters, or your only starter, he's not doing anything for your team. At all. He needs 30 carriers to hit 100 yards and if he doesn't score you a TD, he scores you only a few points. Even in PPR he's been worthless. I don't think the matchup matters. When you are a big guy with little vision, there isn't much hope he becomes a stud anytime soon. That said, I won't drop him in the only league I own him. Not because I think he's worthy of a bench spot, but because I let pride get in the way. He isn't roster worthy in most leagues and I don't see many playoff teams sporting him on their roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 29, 2013 I'm thinking of offering S-Jax for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvinjohnsonjesuschrist 0 Posted October 29, 2013 Donald Brown- who was 4th on the depth chart going into the season- looks so much faster. The colts won't want to admit their mistake and will keep featuring Richardson unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazywhorse 6 Posted October 29, 2013 Donald Brown- who was 4th on the depth chart going into the season- looks so much faster. The colts won't want to admit their mistake and will keep featuring Richardson unfortunately. As bad as Richardson is, Donald Brown isn't much better. His numbers are skewed because he comes in on passing downs where there are mismatches in the defense. They also spread the offense out for Brown. If Indy pounds Brown down the middle like they do Richardson in the I formation every single play, Brown would be just as bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted October 29, 2013 There is still hope he can turn it around. hope? like obama kinda hope 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,311 Posted October 29, 2013 It would be nice if people would think before they post here. A lot of bitterness and misinformation. There is no way Indy has the toughest schedule. They have the tasty Houston matchup this week and Tenn is scheduled twice more. TRich is the currently listed as the 15th RB for ROW on fantasypros.com consensus of 9 (at this time). So, stop with the insane dropping nonsense. If you've got him you're probably playing him. Got to hope the bye week got him acclimated. He is in the late Sunday game against Houston so you get to watch him with your undivided attention. There is still hope he can turn it around. That means nothing to me. People have been consistently overvaluing TRich since before he even came into the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted October 29, 2013 hope? like obama kinda hope LOL Does this mean Indy got both Hope and Change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted October 29, 2013 2.1 yards and a cloud of field turf. Amazed that people still talk about this guys ADP, ROW, Yahoo undroppable status, etc as some kind of evidence of his performance. Lots of people got suckered, including the "experts". The only shame is not chalking it up to ff and moving on. Watch him play while pretending that you didn't draft him. The see what you think of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 29, 2013 Couldn't disagree more. He has been outplayed each and every week by waiver wire pickups. If Trent is one of your two starters, or your only starter, he's not doing anything for your team. At all. He needs 30 carriers to hit 100 yards and if he doesn't score you a TD, he scores you only a few points. Even in PPR he's been worthless. I don't think the matchup matters. When you are a big guy with little vision, there isn't much hope he becomes a stud anytime soon. That said, I won't drop him in the only league I own him. Not because I think he's worthy of a bench spot, but because I let pride get in the way. He isn't roster worthy in most leagues and I don't see many playoff teams sporting him on their roster. So, lets hear it, what waiver wire pick up do you have for week 9 that you think is going to outproduce TRich. And I'm talking standard leagues here, I could see in PPR there would be more options. The fftoday article lists A Ellington (but we're not really talking about a league where he is available are we?), that leaves M Tolbert, J Starks, or A Brown (who is on bye, so obviously wouldn't work for the coming week). Who is outplaying TRich for week 9 from that motley crew? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 29, 2013 That means nothing to me. People have been consistently overvaluing TRich since before he even came into the league. It can be easy to claim people are overvaluing him when you don't give specifics. But if you feel 15 is too high where do you have him? Are you putting him below Spiller (currently 16) or worse than Gio, L Bell, Sproles, McFadden, MJD, S Ridley, or S Jackson. That's how quickly and how bad the RBs are. After the top 12, things get bad in a hurry. TRich is listed behind D Murray and C Johnson. The consensus rankings have value. Of course you can disagree with them but they do offer an important yardstick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted October 29, 2013 It can be easy to claim people are overvaluing him when you don't give specifics. But if you feel 15 is too high where do you have him? Are you putting him below Spiller (currently 16) or worse than Gio, L Bell, Sproles, McFadden, MJD, S Ridley, or S Jackson. That's how quickly and how bad the RBs are. After the top 12, things get bad in a hurry. TRich is listed behind D Murray and C Johnson. The consensus rankings have value. Of course you can disagree with them but they do offer an important yardstick. Every one of those Rb's other than Jackson have outscored TRich so far. Is it really that shocking to rank them ahead of him the rest of the way too? But just by being on a good team and probably getting most goal line TD's I would agree he's still a #2 RB. Yes I'd rank him behind Bell, McFadden and Gio easily for the rest of the season myself. I would've said Sproles too even non-PPR but this week was strange. He's not getting any carries now and with Graham hobbled puzzling he wasn't used more in passing game. With Vereen on way back in a couple games hard to go with Ridley although would be no surprise if he was better than TRich going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreen626 17 Posted October 29, 2013 What do you expect from Trent Richardson Nothing but disappointment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted October 29, 2013 It can be easy to claim people are overvaluing him when you don't give specifics. But if you feel 15 is too high where do you have him? Are you putting him below Spiller (currently 16) or worse than Gio, L Bell, Sproles, McFadden, MJD, S Ridley, or S Jackson. That's how quickly and how bad the RBs are. After the top 12, things get bad in a hurry. TRich is listed behind D Murray and C Johnson. The consensus rankings have value. Of course you can disagree with them but they do offer an important yardstick. It's hard to talk specifics with guys like Richardson, as one tends to overlook small defects when studying a premier running back, as a guy picked number three overall should be considered. People will always see what they want to see. I've never thought much of the guy, and could never really figure out why until I dug a little deeper. First of all, as someone adeptly pointed out, he simply isn't explosive. He averaged 3.6 yards per carry last season behind an offensive line which could hardly be called a weak link in Cleveland. Only 2 of his 267 carries went for 20 yards, one of the worst rates in the league. What's more, the Browns other running backs averaged 4.4 yards per rush in his stead. In fact when he was hurt two seasons ago the team rushing totals were only four yards per game fewer without him. Richardson did have 12 touchdowns in 2012, but despite his size the numbers show he is NOT a premier goal line or short yardage back. In situations last season when the Browns needed a yard or less to keep a drive a live or score a touchdown, Richardson was successful on only 6 of 13 attempts. Among the 26 players with at least ten such attempts only one other back finished under 50% converting these tough yards, and I believe that was Michael Turner. He is buried in the ranks for fantasy scoring this year, and in fact only has ONE game with double digit numbers. I've never thought him to be a special back, and feel he is one who's draft position vastly inflated his actual worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 29, 2013 Every one of those Rb's other than Jackson have outscored TRich so far. Is it really that shocking to rank them ahead of him the rest of the way too? But just by being on a good team and probably getting most goal line TD's I would agree he's still a #2 RB. Yes I'd rank him behind Bell, McFadden and Gio easily for the rest of the season myself. I would've said Sproles too even non-PPR but this week was strange. He's not getting any carries now and with Graham hobbled puzzling he wasn't used more in passing game. With Vereen on way back in a couple games hard to go with Ridley although would be no surprise if he was better than TRich going forward. Not true, TRich has outscored L Bell and Spiller along with S Jackson. But it's not at all shocking to have different rankings, it's expected. As for your adjustments, I don't see the easily part, Pitt is a mess, Gio doesn't get the goal line work, and McFadden remains one of the highest injury risks in the nation. The point of fantasypros consensus rankings is to average all the people's rankings who think out this list. My point was to show that TRich is still pretty decently ranked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvolpe21 5 Posted October 29, 2013 so i guess i shouldnt have traded for him lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 29, 2013 It's hard to talk specifics with guys like Richardson, as one tends to overlook small defects when studying a premier running back, as a guy picked number three overall should be considered. People will always see what they want to see. I've never thought much of the guy, and could never really figure out why until I dug a little deeper. First of all, as someone adeptly pointed out, he simply isn't explosive. He averaged 3.6 yards per carry last season behind an offensive line which could hardly be called a weak link in Cleveland. Only 2 of his 267 carries went for 20 yards, one of the worst rates in the league. What's more, the Browns other running backs averaged 4.4 yards per rush in his stead. In fact when he was hurt two seasons ago the team rushing totals were only four yards per game fewer without him. Richardson did have 12 touchdowns in 2012, but despite his size the numbers show he is NOT a premier goal line or short yardage back. In situations last season when the Browns needed a yard or less to keep a drive a live or score a touchdown, Richardson was successful on only 6 of 13 attempts. Among the 26 players with at least ten such attempts only one other back finished under 50% converting these tough yards, and I believe that was Michael Turner. He is buried in the ranks for fantasy scoring this year, and in fact only has ONE game with double digit numbers. I've never thought him to be a special back, and feel he is one who's draft position vastly inflated his actual worth. When I was mentioning specifics to IGW I was refering to his ranking ROW. Seems like it would be hard to kick TRich out of the RB2 category. TRich looks like a good goal line back to me. I think the number 12 trumps the more artificial criteria you created. More importantly, I think Indy will use him in the capacity of goal line back for the remainder of the season. With Indy playing both Houston and Tenn twice still, I can see TRich getting around 5 to 6 TDs and averaging 70 ypg for a decent 11 fpg from here out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOKIEZ 34 Posted October 29, 2013 Im trying to trade spiller for t rich. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 3, 2013 the announcer on espn2 said donald brown has looked better than t rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 4, 2013 the announcer on espn2 said donald brown has looked better than t rich and i have to agree...!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted November 4, 2013 At what point should I start playing Brown over TRich? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted November 4, 2013 Expect dung. And where there's dunk, there's dung beetles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamirfaz 3 Posted November 4, 2013 This is what to expect from this diaper wearing POS: Colts feature him on the first drive, resulting in a 3 and out. Colts give up a TD on ensuing possession, eventually fall behind by 17, and use him as an ineffective pass blocker as they try to come from behind for three quarters. Luck leads miraculous comeback aided by BS penalties, deep bombs to WRs that are playing against you and a random Donald Brown run that accounts for triple the yardage TRich has on 10 carries. Colts take the lead midway through the 4th quarter. TRich is sent in to drain the clock and promptly runs for negative yardage. I feel like every single Colts game I watch is the same thing over and over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted November 4, 2013 So, lets hear it, what waiver wire pick up do you have for week 9 that you think is going to outproduce TRich. And I'm talking standard leagues here, I could see in PPR there would be more options. The fftoday article lists A Ellington (but we're not really talking about a league where he is available are we?), that leaves M Tolbert, J Starks, or A Brown (who is on bye, so obviously wouldn't work for the coming week). Who is outplaying TRich for week 9 from that motley crew? I didn't have to use a waiver wire pickup for Richardson. I was smart enough to only draft him in one league and in the league I'm stuck with his slow arse, my bench consists of Zac Stacy (started this weekend), Laveon Bell (my other starter), Ben Tate, Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush (normal starter on bye). With Bush on a bye, the decision was easy. I only play in PPR formats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted November 4, 2013 Not true, TRich has outscored L Bell and Spiller along with S Jackson. But it's not at all shocking to have different rankings, it's expected. As for your adjustments, I don't see the easily part, Pitt is a mess, Gio doesn't get the goal line work, and McFadden remains one of the highest injury risks in the nation. The point of fantasypros consensus rankings is to average all the people's rankings who think out this list. My point was to show that TRich is still pretty decently ranked. Do you always defend pieces of crap? lol Are you going to tell us today that Trent just wasn't used properly? I think we all know what/who he is. I don't care who has him ranked where. In my book, he's not even a backup flex option in a league where fat & slow guys are given double yardage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted November 4, 2013 Man he and Roddy White killed my team. A couple of those screen passes he looked ok but running between the tackles he just didn't hit the line with authority. No one wants him and there are no options on the WW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rvolpe21 5 Posted November 4, 2013 he sucks i dropped the ball on that one lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted November 4, 2013 Do you always defend pieces of crap? lol Are you going to tell us today that Trent just wasn't used properly? I think we all know what/who he is. I don't care who has him ranked where. In my book, he's not even a backup flex option in a league where fat & slow guys are given double yardage. The dog has a major man crush on TRich and has been using different convoluted 'logic' to defend him for weeks. I don't expect him to man up and admit he has been brutally wrong, but I would hope he'd STFU about the subject moving forward... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westlak 1 Posted November 4, 2013 This guy blows. I isolated on him somewhat last night. He has no vision. There were holes that opened up for him and he kept his head down and went the other way. Painful to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYFG 2 Posted November 5, 2013 Im sure when I drop his azz this week, he will have a huge game.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted November 5, 2013 It's been 5 straight games of nada. Do you expect anything to change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted November 5, 2013 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 5, 2013 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Optimist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites