TE Tim Wright traded to Patriots

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

From my ESPN text:

 

Patriots trade 6 time Pro Bowl LG Logan Mankins to Buccaneers for TE Tim Wright, draft pick.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Bump Martin up a spot.

 

also shows how confident the pats are in Gronk...

[ffexpert 4]

it Tim a legit TE now?

[Belushi 9]

I don't think this says anything about Gronk. Maybe they think Wright can fill in as a "move" TE similar to Hernandez? Or maybe they just weren't happy with their TE depth behind Gronk.

[weepaws 2,457]

I think it says they needed the help,at TE . Plus it does say something about Gronk health problems .

[dain11279 927]

it Tim a legit TE now?

Must be. As evidenced by people calling him by his first name only. Like he's Jesus or Cher or sumpfin

[ffexpert 4]

Must be. As evidenced by people calling him by his first name only. Like he's Jesus or Cher or sumpfin

seemed like people could put the pieces together, given the title of the thread is his name.

[kilroy69 994]

Must be. As evidenced by people calling him by his first name only. Like he's Jesus or Cher or sumpfin

tiiiimmmmaaahhhh

[NEWPOSTERGUY! 266]

... Incognito and Mankins, eh?

 

Martin's looking better every day

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

I think this helps Martin for sure, Tim Wright himself as I bet he plays Hernandez's spot, and Brady for having that move TE back along with Gronk (hopefully).

[Vikings4ever 496]

Hurries to pick up Wright in a dynasty league...

[kilroy69 994]

I just dropped green for him. Gates is just not going away and green is not playing enough snaps to justify keeping him as my backup. wright has legit potential as the move in that offense.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,578]

I think this hurts Edelmans value

[kilroy69 994]

hernandez put up 900/7 in that spot in his best year and wright is taller than hernandez by 2 inches making him a pretty decent redzone matchup at 6 ft 4.

[ChiTownKev 0]

I can't decide if this is worth dropping someone for or not. Wright has good size and potential, but his athleticism is nowhere near Hernandez.

On a side note, how are you still getting text alerts from ESPN? I thought they discontinued that.

[kilroy69 994]

he knows a guy who knows a girl who blows a guy who works for espn.

[FreeJoshGordon 0]

I just dropped green for him. Gates is just not going away and green is not playing enough snaps to justify keeping him as my backup. wright has legit potential as the move in that offense.

 

This is the same situation I'm in... Brain tells me drop green for wright for obvious reasons, anyone else agree? more of a defensive move.

1pt ppr own J. Thomas

[Flgatorguy87 160]

I added him as a Gronk owner. This is really nice to have a guy that would even partially step into that role if something comes up with Gronk. Makes game time decisions so much better. It's a legit hand cuff. Obviously not THE upside but Tim has some upside if Gronk is out... Probably has decent value even if he's healthy.

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

On a side note, how are you still getting text alerts from ESPN? I thought they discontinued that.

I don't think you can sign up for them anymore but mine just never went away.

[Superdude 4]

Tim Whatever = Today's Zach Sudfeld

[southcarolina 166]

I read some guys tweet somewhere that the cap savings for trading Mankins is very close to the cost of rostering Andre Johnson. Just throwing it out there.,

[kilroy69 994]

This is the same situation I'm in... Brain tells me drop green for wright for obvious reasons, anyone else agree? more of a defensive move.

1pt ppr own J. Thomas

same thing here but i own reed. I can see wright putting up 700 yards and 6 or 7 tds if they move to a twin te set. More if gronk tears his whatever it is this time.

[Dungheap 0]

Tim Whatever = Today's Zach Sudfeld

 

Tim Whatever was TE14 in my PPR league last season in Tampa's dogshit offense, which is just a shade better than Sudfeld's finish. I'm not suggesting that he'll do the same or better this year, but I think he's worth a flier to see how it shakes out if you have the space.

[Matt Mueller 146]

I read some guys tweet somewhere that the cap savings for trading Mankins is very close to the cost of rostering Andre Johnson. Just throwing it out there.,

You might be onto something. I've always thought AJ or Fitz might end up on the Pats at some point.

[southcarolina 166]

 

Tim Whatever was TE14 in my PPR league last season in Tampa's dogshit offense, which is just a shade better than Sudfeld's finish. I'm not suggesting that he'll do the same or better this year, but I think he's worth a flier to see how it shakes out if you have the space.

And Wright is a huge upgrade over the Patriots non-Gronk TEs, Mike Hoomanawui, Steve Maneri and Ben Hartsock.

[Superdude 4]

 

Tim Whatever was TE14 in my PPR league last season in Tampa's dogshit offense, which is just a shade better than Sudfeld's finish. I'm not suggesting that he'll do the same or better this year, but I think he's worth a flier to see how it shakes out if you have the space.

Ya I see your point. However, I just don't see him in the Hernandez role. I think he's there as a backup to Gronk. He will see some action though with him and Gronk in though.

[IGotWorms 3,310]

Wright is not a backup for Gronk, he's a totally different player. He is basically a Hernandez replacement

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Wright is not a backup for Gronk, he's a totally different player. He is basically a Hernandez replacement

I agree different players but still works as a handcuff. I'm thinking more in the lines of start times or Monday night games. Also would expect an uptick in production of Gronk is out. Really works well for this imo.

[IGotWorms 3,310]

I agree different players but still works as a handcuff. I'm thinking more in the lines of start times or Monday night games. Also would expect an uptick in production of Gronk is out. Really works well for this imo.

Yes that is true in the fantasy sense

[Cuse9 128]

This has to bump up Sefarian-Jenkins? They must really like him. Wright was a pretty good TE, to trade him away you must have faith in your rookie. Getting Logan Mankins was pretty good though. I'm sure he's not as good as he was years ago, but still he's a solid starter for them. Definitely will help create holes for Martin and protection for McCown. The entire Buccs offense just got a boost!

[IGotWorms 3,310]

This has to bump up Sefarian-Jenkins? They must really like him. Wright was a pretty good TE, to trade him away you must have faith in your rookie. Getting Logan Mankins was pretty good though. I'm sure he's not as good as he was years ago, but still he's a solid starter for them. Definitely will help create holes for Martin and protection for McCown. The entire Buccs offense just got a boost!

The best part of Mankins' addition will be bringing a winning leadership to the locker room, IMO. He is still a pretty good guard but no longer elite

[Flgatorguy87 160]

This has to bump up Sefarian-Jenkins? They must really like him. Wright was a pretty good TE, to trade him away you must have faith in your rookie. Getting Logan Mankins was pretty good though. I'm sure he's not as good as he was years ago, but still he's a solid starter for them. Definitely will help create holes for Martin and protection for McCown. The entire Buccs offense just got a boost!

Agreed. It's a really good trade from both sides I think.

[JtmoneyJag 25]

Agreed. It's a really good trade from both sides I think.

 

I think so as well. They weren't likely to resign Mankins so getting something for him now is a plus. Bucs get an upgrade at Oline and Patriots get a 4th and receiving threat TE in the same mold as Aaron Hernandez (though Hernandez is bigger weight wise). Seems like a win win.

[PackYourNut 47]

Wright is there for the move TE position or the Hernandez role and has zero to do with Gronk, other than making the match ups better for Brady, assuming Wright plays.

 

For this year, I don't see any impact at all really. In dynasty, Wright is now a definite acquire/hold commodity.

 

The one part of this equation that everyone is missing, is that the pats added a 4th rounder. They got rid of an aging lineman and received a good player and a draft pick. A typical move by them and I think they took advantage of the Bucs and how desperate they were for a guard.

 

I doubt this trade has any significance in redraft at all.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I just dropped green for him. Gates is just not going away and green is not playing enough snaps to justify keeping him as my backup. wright has legit potential as the move in that offense.

 

Me too.

 

My guess is that Gates has pics of the Charger owner with a live boy or a dead girl is the reason he keeps the starting gig.

[lesjroza 70]

I did not watch TB regularly last year but my observation of Tim Wright was that he was nothing special athletically. He is a sure handed pass-catcher but was thrust into a significant role only because Mike Williams blew up on TB and none of the other pass-catchers stepped up.

 

I do not believe he has shown he would be worthy of significant role on an offense with quality NFL weapons and was in danger of being cut this year, he was on the roster bubble.

 

We are all dealing with incomplete information and the NE brain trust is unlikely to enlighten us as to its exact thinking but my belief is that they felt Mankins play was no longer worthy of the salary premium they were paying over his replacements so they looked to move him period.

 

The first option would be trading him if they could get additional value, this is different than trading him to get the value, the real value was in moving the salary off the roster. I think getting Wright was incidental to the deal, they did nice by Mankins as a bit of a face saver and they pickup a sure handed pass catcher as part of the deal. I do think they will keep him around this year, he is on a cheap rookie deal and could be a fall back in the slot if Edelman and Amendola get hurt again.

 

Wide receivers who come into the Pats O with a full off-season have a hard time getting the system and timing down, even vets. I find it extremely unlikely Wright has any early season FF value at all and I will be very surprised if he ends up with predictable weekly value at any point this year. IMO it would take an avalanche of injuries for it to happen. I also believe its an uphill battle for Wright to make himself part of the long term plan because he is athletically limited, doesn't mean it can't happen, guys work hard and make themselves indispensable professionals sometimes but I think its low percentage.

 

I understand the desire to go for what is seen as upside but its fools gold, dropping a player like L. Green to make the pickup, one whom could come into huge value with an injury from just one aging player is a mistake IMO.

[IGotWorms 3,310]

Excellent points lesjroza

[Flgatorguy87 160]

I sort of disagree. While he may not be a freak athlete. The guy was a WR in college and converted to TE after he came into the league. He isn't super experienced at the TE spot and he is still very young. His combine numbers and production numbers last year are more than enough to show the guy could be productive if put into the right situation. I think the Pats are full of Ho Hum nobody's at the WR position and I could see a guy who can play that tweener role having an opportunity to succeed. I'm not saying he's going to go off, but in my situation it was worth dropping Jonathan Grimes for him.

[BoxFullofJoel 3]

I had Wright last year and was impressed. The guy was converted to te as a rookie and played better than most of the league at the position. I even drafted him and seferian this year so this trade is a win-win for me.

[lesjroza 70]

I sort of disagree. While he may not be a freak athlete. The guy was a WR in college and converted to TE after he came into the league. He isn't super experienced at the TE spot and he is still very young. His combine numbers and production numbers last year are more than enough to show the guy could be productive if put into the right situation. I think the Pats are full of Ho Hum nobody's at the WR position and I could see a guy who can play that tweener role having an opportunity to succeed. I'm not saying he's going to go off, but in my situation it was worth dropping Jonathan Grimes for him.

 

Well, first of all differing opinions are part of what FF is about and as I mentioned I didn't get to see TB play last year more than a couple of times but I have been a dynasty footballer for few years and Wright was not on my rookie draft list. I was curious about the combine numbers after you mentioned that because they are my first sifting tool for rookie player study. I did not find any in my notes for Wright, if you have any please share. I don't think he attended the NFL combine. Perhaps it was a super regional. That caused me to do another quick search and copied below is what I found at another FF site."

• Nominal production in college and started just five games at Rutgers, finishing his collegiate career with 50 receptions, 596 yards and 4 TDs (with a 39/449/4 statline as a senior)
• Recruited to Rutgers and coached by now-Tampa HC Greg Schiano while at Rutgers
• Missed his 2010 season with a knee injury and didn’t log a reception in college until his junior season
• Originally came into the NFL as a wide receiver but Tampa moved him from tight end in mid-summer 2013
• Played multiple positions in high school including running back; came out of Wall High School in New Jersey as a Top 15 state recruit
• COMBINE UPDATE: Wright was not invited to the NFL Combine. He posted very marginal measurables in the Rutgers Pro Day (including a 4.65 in the 40-yard dash) but posted a solid 36” vertical."

It sounds from the above that Wright's ticket into the NFL was Schiano who of course is no longer with the Bucs. Further I happen to know from other reading that Schiano is greatly respected as a coach and player evaluator in the NE Bellicheck tree so I think together we are putting together some more pieces of the puzzle probably before some reporters in all honesty. This info might actually be a bit more positive for his chances of sticking with the organization longer term because ties can go to the sentimental favorites but in the end I think his limitations will hold him back, more importantly it doesn't change any of my opinion regarding his production this year.