barber2309 26 Posted October 6, 2015 So he was the one handcuff you must own. If you were a Charles owner and didn't get Davis, you blew it. I am a Charles owner that owns Davis and dropped Hillman last week over him because I didn't want to lose that automatic stud injury replacement bandaid in Davis. \ Since I dropped Hillman instead of Davis, Davis has received 0 carries and hasn't been on the field except on special teams. What is going on there? I get that they look at West as the passing downs back and Davis isn't that guy, but not a series here or there for Davis? Is it time to finally drop him and realize he isn't the one handcuff that you must hold onto? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 94 Posted October 6, 2015 West surpassed him as #2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted October 6, 2015 West surpassed him as #2 Wow...if I were a Davis owner (with JC) I would still wait and see how this plays out. Rotoworld: Knile Davis has fallen behind Charcandrick West on the Chiefs' running back depth chart. Davis is returning kickoffs, but he hasn't played an offensive snap in the last two weeks. "We like what Charcandrick has been doing," coach Andy Reid said Monday, explaining that West is better in the passing game than Davis. Reid insisted he still has trust in Davis: "I haven’t lost confidence in Knile at all. That’s just were I was at for that game, and what I felt." Were Jamaal Charles to go down, we suspect Davis and West would share the workload. This limits Davis' appeal as a handcuff in 12- and 14-team leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barber2309 26 Posted October 6, 2015 West surpassed him as #2 Why though? Davis is he far superior talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted October 6, 2015 Can safely drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 6, 2015 As a Jamaal owner I don't even know if I should bother with West. I could probably get him. But would I ever start him. Unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted October 6, 2015 As a Jamaal owner I don't even know if I should bother with West. I could probably get him. But would I ever start him. Unlikely. Depends on how flexible your roster system is. Although we can only START 2 RB and 1 Flex player, our bench allows us to carry up to 8 RB total (This would mean dumping all backup TE, WR, DEF) but it's nice to have that flexibility if you want to have 5 or 6 RB on your roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 6, 2015 Depends on how flexible your roster system is. Although we can only START 2 RB and 1 Flex player, our bench allows us to carry up to 8 RB total (This would mean dumping all backup TE, WR, DEF) but it's nice to have that flexibility if you want to have 5 or 6 RB on your roster. I have roster flexibility but I'd rather roster guys who aren't a long way from a RBBC. I want guys that are right now the guy if the starter goes down. I own Rawls and Khiry. I'd have to cut one of them for West. Nope. I also still think Knile is the clear number 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted October 6, 2015 I have roster flexibility but I'd rather roster guys who aren't a long way from a RBBC. I want guys that are right now the guy if the starter goes down. I own Rawls and Khiry. I'd have to cut one of them for West. Nope. I also still think Knile is the clear number 2. I think part of this is Reid, who is always fickle with his RB and likes a pass catching RB, especially for his captain checkdown QB. Reid still thinks he's running a pass first offense. They've only run on 41% of their plays, with the best RB in the league (arguably). Reid is an idiot who would rather put the game in the hands of his checkdown QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted October 6, 2015 I think part of this is Reid, who is always fickle with his RB and likes a pass catching RB, especially for his captain checkdown QB. Reid still thinks he's running a pass first offense. They've only run on 41% of their plays, with the best RB in the league (arguably). Reid is an idiot who would rather put the game in the hands of his checkdown QB. And some coaches just love to show the world what geniuses they are, you know, dazzle them with their wizardry lol... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dueces Will Be Wild 15 Posted October 6, 2015 If I owned Charles, I personally wouldn't drop Knile. But that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaBeerz 88 Posted October 6, 2015 And some coaches just love to show the world what geniuses they are, you know, dazzle them with their wizardry lol... Reid has always been a horrible playcaller and clock manager. He's generally good at putting together offensive schemes around the passing game. However that was when he had tools to work with. He's not playing to the strengths of his team, which right now are Charles and Maclin. His Herp a Derp QB is too scared to push the ball down the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boilerddd 62 Posted October 6, 2015 Any chance this is more about Kniles attitude vs talent issue? I mean it makes zero sense. I hardly think he suddenly has lost his ability from last year, when he more than carried the load without Charles. If I remember correctly didn't Kniles have some comments about his continued back-up status during the offseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 94 Posted October 7, 2015 Going to carry both for a week and see what happens this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barber2309 26 Posted October 7, 2015 Spiller is out there in my 14 team ppr league but I am hesitant to pull the trigger. I still feel if Charles goes down Davis is the #1 and West is the change of pace back, but with a more significant role than he has now with Charles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 7, 2015 Spiller is out there in my 14 team ppr league but I am hesitant to pull the trigger. I still feel if Charles goes down Davis is the #1 and West is the change of pace back, but with a more significant role than he has now with Charles. 14 team ppr league? Dude go pick up spiller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted October 16, 2015 Thoughts on this guy? Will he surpass West and become the man? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted October 17, 2015 I think he will get goal line touches so that by itself is important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted October 17, 2015 I just got him, and am starting him @ Minnesota with confidence. It's perfect this other jibba-jabba popped up, it scared off most in my league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted October 17, 2015 Niles isn't a very good RB. 3.5 per carry...West can catch and is very shifty with great vision. West is the guys and Reid has a man crush on him. I see West as a RB2 with the potential of being an RB1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted October 17, 2015 Don't see either one separating themself from the other , it's going to be a rbbc with the player having the better game getting more of the work , I'm staying far away from another one of these situations this season . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted October 17, 2015 I disagree. they want a bell cow. they need one. I am betting a 70 30 split with west doing the lifting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted October 17, 2015 What's really ironic is even though West is an undrafted rookie out of Abilene Christian, he's actually still older than Davis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpann101 32 Posted October 17, 2015 I love how everyone is treating West as if he is better than Jamaal. I think everyone is amping him up as if he will make a D. Freeman impact. Wait and see I guess..for me, I think this will be the Knile Davis show for years to come! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted October 17, 2015 I too am somewhat surprised at all the love West is getting while Davis is getting none to little. Davis has PROVEN he could carry the load when JC is out. West is an undrafted kid who hasn't proven much yet save a few carries in mop up. I see Davis being more valuable for no other reason than goal line carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted October 18, 2015 It's going to be what everyone has been speculating. West will get first crack and majority of the touches + receptions, and Davis will get goal line and short yardage work. Considering that the Chiefs are going to be less than stellar, I forsee West doing well in PPR since Smith loves to throw to his rbs. -- "Charcandrick West will get the first chance to replace Jamaal Charles, but the Chiefs prefer Davis on power runs and in short-yardage. Kansas Citys backfield situation is more a downgrade to West than a reason to play Davis this week. Davis is a touchdown-dependent RB3 against Minnesota's underrated run defense." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted October 18, 2015 It's going to be what everyone has been speculating. West will get first crack and majority of the touches + receptions, and Davis will get goal line and short yardage work. Considering that the Chiefs are going to be less than stellar, I forsee West doing well in PPR since Smith loves to throw to his rbs. -- "Charcandrick West will get the first chance to replace Jamaal Charles, but the Chiefs prefer Davis on power runs and in short-yardage. Kansas Citys backfield situation is more a downgrade to West than a reason to play Davis this week. Davis is a touchdown-dependent RB3 against Minnesota's underrated run defense." Yeah, but the exciting part of FF is waiting to see if the coaches actually do what they say they're going to do. Luckily, I don't have a lot riding on this. But I'm currently starting The Charc in one league over a questionable/doubtful Forsett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
