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Arabs and Jews hate each other.

 

Arabs and Arabs hate each other.

 

Iran hates Jews and helps one kind of Arabs kill them, as well as other Arabs.

 

What do I win?

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Arabs and Jews hate each other.

 

Arabs and Arabs hate each other.

 

Iran hates Jews and helps one kind of Arabs kill them, as well as other Arabs.

 

What do I win?

The simpleton of the month award. Go collect your trophy at FBGs

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The simpleton of the month award. Go collect your trophy at FBGs

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And the Germans killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs and the Arabs killed the hostages and that is the news

 

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Religion

 

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That was the obvious reason for many moons, but I think it goes a lot deeper than that, nowadays.

 

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I don't understand how anyone can defend the Palestinians. :dunno:

Neither do I. They are savages.

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I don't understand how anyone can defend the Palestinians. :dunno:

 

There's no way to defend them, and it's almost impossible to understand centuries old conflicts/territorial disputes in the Middle East.

 

When you're offered a piece of the pie and you say "Fock it, I want all the pie, and I'll kill innocent people to get it", then, yeah. I have no sympathy for your initial claims.

 

Kids getting killed on either side sucks, though.

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I don't understand how anyone can defend the Palestinians. :dunno:

Nearly impossible to defend either side in that mess.

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not really

Yeah...go ahead and defend the idiocy of Israel firing missiles into homes long after any mobile rockets have been moved.

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Yeah...go ahead and defend the idiocy of Israel firing missiles into homes long after any mobile rockets have been moved.

link? At least you admit those savages had rockets in those places and do indeed use their children as human sheilds.

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link? At least you admit those savages had rockets in those places and do indeed use their children as human sheilds.

Agreed. If there is evidence that Israel bombed such places knowing that no military presence was there, then they share culpability. I would appreciate a link before i believe it though, Sho.

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I've read many Palestinians aren't too happy with their leadership which has achieved virtually nothing after decades.

 

I can sympathize with ordinary Palestinians who live like second class citizens in their own country and get the raw end of collateral damage every time Isreal attacks Hammas.

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I can sympathize with ordinary Palestinians who live like second class citizens in their own country and get the raw end of collateral damage every time Isreal attacks Hammas.

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Truth is the powers that be on both sides of the conflict have no vested interest in peace. The source of their power is continued conflict.

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Agreed. If there is evidence that Israel bombed such places knowing that no military presence was there, then they share culpability. I would appreciate a link before i believe it though, Sho.

 

He's regurgitating lefty talking points.

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He's regurgitating lefty talking points.

I'm not really seeing it as a left/right issue. The U.S. government has always supported Israel regardless of party.

 

That said one can express frustration at Israel's seeming disregard for collateral damage at times. Hamas is certainly much worse in their attitudes towards civilian casualties but thankfully they are much less effective at inflicting those casualties.

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link? At least you admit those savages had rockets in those places and do indeed use their children as human sheilds.

Never would deny it...but look at every strike. Kilss innocent people and they never find any destroyed weapons.

 

Its an idiotic strategy.

 

And laughing at lefty talking point on this by saying both sides are beyond defending.

 

But bunny and all can just keep thinking Israel is going about this smart if they want.

 

As for a link...anyone believing the terrorists are firing rockets then.hanging around are focking morons.

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Never would deny it...but look at every strike. Kilss innocent people and they never find any destroyed weapons.

 

Its an idiotic strategy.

 

And laughing at lefty talking point on this by saying both sides are beyond defending.

 

But bunny and all can just keep thinking Israel is going about this smart if they want.

 

As for a link...anyone believing the terrorists are firing rockets then.hanging around are focking morons.

The palestinians people are just as much to blame as hamas. THEY allow this to go on by letting the terrorists mix in with them and use them as human shields. Then they are surprised when little brother attacks. If they were serious about wanting peace they could have it. They are not.

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I agree many of the people allow it...though would argue some don't gave much of a choice given the side holding weapons will force what they want.

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The whole notion of a 'clean war' is bullshitt. Collateral damage is impossible to avoid. At least the focking jews are telling people to get the fock out before they blow the shiot up. Unlike the smelly mooslims who just fire rockets randomly.

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The whole notion of a 'clean war' is bullshitt. Collateral damage is impossible to avoid. At least the focking jews are telling people to get the fock out before they blow the shiot up. Unlike the smelly mooslims who just fire rockets randomly.

Not excusing the Palestinian's at all. Nor will you see me defend them.

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Israel has a right to defend itself. Hopefully they can find and destroy as much of this tunnel network as possible and get rid of the missiles. I wouldn't mind if they re-occupied a strip of the Strip - the small border patch that connects the sh*thole to Egypt, dig a trench, and constantly detect/flood/destroy any tunnels going under there.

 

Meanwhile, it would also be helpful if they stopped building settlements in the West Bank. They've got their wall which has done great job which is why we haven't heard of any suicide bombings on school buses in a long time. Their missile defense shield seems to be working well. At this point, stop kicking the animals with more and more settlements.

 

Gaza does nothing on it's own. It relies on international relief help to survive. It would be nice if it all that donated money went to schools and hospitals rather than tunnels and weaponry but that speaks volumes about Hamas', the Palestinians' and their sponsors' priorities.

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Can you focking imagine the US military response if the mexican government or a faction of it launched 1600 rockets across the border into El Paso? And yet we tell them to use restraint?! Holy Sh!t we'd go batsh!t focking crazy if that happened to us.

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Can you focking imagine the US military response if the mexican government or a faction of it launched 1600 rockets across the border into El Paso? And yet we tell them to use restraint?! Holy Sh!t we'd go batsh!t focking crazy if that happened to us.

 

Depends...are we establishing settlements in their land? Among other things?

Again...the attacks on Israel are not worth defending and I wouldn't do so. But to deny any culpability by Israel is being completely blind to what is going on over there.

 

IMO...there is so much deep seeded hatred and disagreement over land that it may never be resolved. And both sides are guilty in not brokering true peace.

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Depends...are we establishing settlements in their land? Among other things?

Again...the attacks on Israel are not worth defending and I wouldn't do so. But to deny any culpability by Israel is being completely blind to what is going on over there.

 

IMO...there is so much deep seeded hatred and disagreement over land that it may never be resolved. And both sides are guilty in not brokering true peace.

over land ? They've been offered lots.

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over land ? They've been offered lots.

 

Part of its over land yes. Including Israeli settlements in areas that are agreed to be Palestinian.

Do you want to deny these things?

Do you deny that Israel is guilty in any of this?

Mr. Talking Point monitor might want to get back in there to truely see who is regurgitating talking points.

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Depends...are we establishing settlements in their land? Among other things?

Again...the attacks on Israel are not worth defending and I wouldn't do so. But to deny any culpability by Israel is being completely blind to what is going on over there.

 

IMO...there is so much deep seeded hatred and disagreement over land that it may never be resolved. And both sides are guilty in not brokering true peace.

Haha... are you focking goofy bro? You think Merica would give a fat fock if some texans were going into mexico to start some communities? We'd have the first Cav rolling through Juarez blowing the fock out of anything looking at us silly.... Focking rockets into the citybro.... focking thousands of motherfocking rockets... who gives a sh!t if they "feel" justified.

 

Hahah... hell shoot 6 rockets into Merica and see what happens.

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Haha... are you focking goofy bro? You think Merica would give a fat fock if some texans were going into mexico to start some communities? We'd have the first Cav rolling through Juarez blowing the fock out of anything looking at us silly.... Focking rockets into the citybro.... focking thousands of motherfocking rockets... who gives a sh!t if they "feel" justified.

 

Hahah... hell shoot 6 rockets into Merica and see what happens.

Well, we did steal half their country over a very questionable border incident back in the day... Then there was the Pancho villa incident...

 

Israel Palestine is more akin to if the native Americans started crap with us to reclaim thier land.

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Truth is the powers that be on both sides of the conflict have no vested interest in peace. The source of their power is continued conflict.

Agreed. :thumbsup:

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Haha... are you focking goofy bro? You think Merica would give a fat fock if some texans were going into mexico to start some communities? We'd have the first Cav rolling through Juarez blowing the fock out of anything looking at us silly.... Focking rockets into the citybro.... focking thousands of motherfocking rockets... who gives a sh!t if they "feel" justified.

 

Hahah... hell shoot 6 rockets into Merica and see what happens.

Merica..Fock yea :first:

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Well, we did steal half their country over a very questionable border incident back in the day... Then there was the Pancho villa incident...

 

Steal? Really?

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Steal? Really?

yes didn't you know, isreal stole land from a state that didn't even exist. Their tricky like dat.

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yes didn't you know, isreal stole land from a state that didn't even exist. Their tricky like dat.

 

Did you even read what he was replying to?

oof

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Steal? Really?

Yes. In the treaty of Guadalupe hidalgo. Mexico ceded what is now most of the western stated after the Mexican American war (not counting the southern rump of Arizona, that was the gadsden purchase).

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