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BENTON, Ky. (AP) — A 15-year-old student opened fire with a handgun inside a rural Kentucky high school Tuesday morning, killing two of his classmates, injuring 19 and sending hundreds fleeing for safety.
Police were seen leading a teenager away in handcuffs and said the suspect will be charged with murder. It was the nation's first fatal school shooting of 2018.
Students ran for their lives out of Marshall County High School, jumping into cars and running down a highway, some not stopping until they reached a McDonald's restaurant more than a mile away.
"They was running and crying and screaming," said Mitchell Garland, who provided shelter to between 50 and 100 students inside his nearby business. "They was just kids running down the highway. They were trying to get out of there."
A half-dozen ambulances and numerous police cars converged on the school, along with officers in black fatigues carrying assault rifles. Federal authorities responded, and Sen. Mitch McConnell sent staffers. Gov. Matt Bevin rushed from the Capitol to the scene. Parents left their cars on both sides of an adjacent road, desperately trying to find their teenagers.
Two 15-year-olds were killed. A girl died at the scene, and a boy died later at a hospital, the governor said, adding that all of the victims are believed to be students.
The shooter will be charged with murder and attempted murder, Bevin said. Police did not release his identity, nor did they describe a motive.
"This is a wound that is going to take a long time to heal. For some in this community will never fully heal," Bevin said.
Five of the wounded were flown about 120 miles (193 kilometers) to Nashville, Tennessee's Vanderbilt University Medical Center, spokeswoman Tavia Smith said.
Kentucky State Police have no reason to suspect anyone else, detective Jody Cash told the Murray Ledger & Times.
The attack marked the year's first fatal school shooting, 23 days into 2018, according to data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive, which relies on media reports and other information.
Bevin said earlier in a statement that "It is unbelievable that this would happen in a small, close-knit community like Marshall County."
Marshall County High School is about 30 minutes from Heath High School in Paducah, Kentucky, where a 1997 mass shooting killed three and injured five. Michael Carneal, then 14, opened fire there about two years before the fatal attack at Columbine High School in Colorado, ushering in an era when mass school shootings have become much more common.
Meanwhile, in the small North Texas town of Italy, a 15-year-old girl was recovering Tuesday after police said she was shot by a 16-year-old classmate in her high school cafeteria on Monday, sending dozens of students scrambling for safety.
Tuesday's shooting happened as students gathered in a common area just before classes began. Sixteen-year-old Lexie Waymon said she and a friend were talking about the next basketball game, makeup and eyelashes when gunshots pierced the air.
"I blacked out. I couldn't move. I got up and I tried to run, but I fell. I heard someone hit the ground. It was so close to me," Waymon said. "I just heard it and then I just, everything was black for a good minute. Like, I could not see anything. I just froze and did not know what to do. Then I got up and I ran."
Waymon did not stop running, not even when she called her mom to tell her what happened. She made it to the McDonald's, her chest hurting, struggling to breathe. "All I could keep thinking was, 'I can't believe this is happening. I cannot believe this is happening,'" she said.
It was chaotic outside the school as parents and students rushed around trying to find each other, said Dusty Kornbacher, who owns a nearby floral shop. "All the parking lots were full with parents and kids hugging each other and crying and nobody really knowing what was going on," he said.
Barry Mann said his 14-year-old son was put on a bus and taken to another school to be picked up.
"He gave me a call as soon as he run out the door and I didn't know what was happening to him," he told the AP. "It sounded like his heart was in his throat."
Garland said his son, a 16-year-old sophomore, jumped into someone's car and sped away before joining others inside his business.
"Everyone is just scared. Just terrified for their kids," Garland said. "We're a small town and we know a lot of the kids."

 

 

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Things were better years ago when the weirdos, freaks and losers wore makeup and read comic books. At least they weren't shooting up the place.

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I blame social media. It just escalates and encourages public displays of stupidity and selfishness

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drobeski will be along soon to say he was Muslim

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I blame social media. It just escalates and encourages public displays of stupidity and selfishness

 

Social Media and The Media

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drobeski will be along soon to say he was Muslim

nah, so far they haven't attacked high schools in the states.

They only make fake bombs.

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Well, we got a few months of normal human interaction in the school system, if I am correct. Not a bad run.

 

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Gamer again ?

 

Muslim.

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school shooting = gamer the majority of times.

 

Gamer pretty much includes every boy in the school.

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I blame social media. It just escalates and encourages public displays of stupidity and selfishness

That's some good thinking.

 

I was gonna blame.... gee I don't know.... guns. But social media - you nailed it! If only there was no social media, our gun violence statistics would match every other first world country. Way to go Nuggs!

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That's some good thinking.

 

I was gonna blame.... gee I don't know.... guns. But social media - you nailed it! If only there was no social media, our gun violence statistics would match every other first world country. Way to go Nuggs!

 

Funny, I blame the guy who shot people. :dunno:

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Funny, I blame the guy who shot people. :dunno:

 

Then lets legalize bombs, grenades, rocket launchers and fully automatic weapons? Like you say, it's not the weapon's fault if anyone gets killed.

 

Oh wait, because we know ahead of time some people won't use them responsibly. Just take the damn guns away. How hard is it to comprehend?

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Then lets legalize bombs, grenades, rocket launchers and fully automatic weapons? Like you say, it's not the weapon's fault if anyone gets killed.

 

Oh wait, because we know ahead of time some people won't use them responsibly. Just take the damn guns away. How hard is it to comprehend?

 

You can say that about anything. How many people drive drunk every year? Do we ban cars?

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You can say that about anything. How many people drive drunk every year? Do we ban cars?

 

Really Strike? The old "cars kill people too!?!" defense for keeping firearms legal?

 

Ever heard of critical thinking? It's where normal people weigh pros and cons.

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Really Strike? The old "cars kill people too!?!" defense for keeping firearms legal?

 

Ever heard of critical thinking? It's where normal people weigh pros and cons.

 

No, we're not talking about cars kill people too. We're talking about people using a tool irresponsibly as you stated. You know, the part of your post that I highlighted. I think you're the one who needs to hone his critical thinking skills.

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No, we're not talking about cars kill people too. We're talking about people using a tool irresponsibly as you stated. You know, the part of your post that I highlighted. I think you're the one who needs to hone his critical thinking skills.

 

"Cars kill people too" .... wow, I still can't believe you went there. Poor Strike.

 

You really think guns provide enough pros to justify all the mass-shootings, gun violence, gun crime, gun accidents, etc... The right to shoot targets justifies all that? I don't.

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"Cars kill people too" .... wow, I still can't believe you went there. Poor Strike.

 

You really think guns provide enough pros to justify all the mass-shootings, gun violence, gun crime, gun accidents, etc... The right to shoot targets justifies all that? I don't.

 

Yeah man. We get it. You want to ban all guns, and can't refute arguments that oppose yours. No worries.

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That's some good thinking.

 

I was gonna blame.... gee I don't know.... guns. But social media - you nailed it! If only there was no social media, our gun violence statistics would match every other first world country. Way to go Nuggs!

Stupid gun. Couldn't read the 'Gun Free Zone' sign.

 

Literacy programs for guns!

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"Cars kill people too" .... wow, I still can't believe you went there. Poor Strike.

 

You really think guns provide enough pros to justify all the mass-shootings, gun violence, gun crime, gun accidents, etc... The right to shoot targets justifies all that? I don't.

That's because you didn't live in Germany just before the Nazis confiscated yours.

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That's because you didn't live in Germany just before the Nazis confiscated yours.

 

Every first world country on Earth has strict gun laws. Perplexing why aren't they all turning into a Nazi states? I can't figure it, because of course our guns keeps that from happening here. You need a new FFToday name.

 

I forgot how low-brow these gun debates can get. Strike went with the "cars kill people!" defense. Mensa went with the "Nazis took people's guns!". I'm waiting for the "drugs are illegal and I can still buy drugs" which is supposed to mean it's pointless to outlaw anything. Which of course is ridiculous, but don't let that stop yall.

 

Honestly, the worst thing about these mass shootings is that gun-right supporters aren't the only ones getting killed and wounded. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt too.

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I wasn't the biggest 2A guy in the world. Always felt citizens should be able to own them, but wanted stricter restrictions. Not anymore. I watch what's going on in Europe and then realize that's what Obama and Hillary and the next left winger that gets elected wants for us. No thanks.

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Every first world country on Earth has strict gun laws. Perplexing why aren't they all turning into a Nazi states? I can't figure it, because of course our guns keeps that from happening here. You need a new FFToday name.

 

I forgot how low-brow these gun debates can get. Strike went with the "cars kill people!" defense. Mensa went with the "Nazis took people's guns!". I'm waiting for the "drugs are illegal and I can still buy drugs" which is supposed to mean it's pointless to outlaw anything. Which of course is ridiculous, but don't let that stop yall.

 

Honestly, the worst thing about these mass shootings is that gun-right supporters aren't the only ones getting killed and wounded. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt too.

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Fellow Americans, please do society a favor and make sure your sons learn how to fight or how to avoid a fight. What you're currently doing isn't working.

 

 

TIA.

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I wasn't the biggest 2A guy in the world. Always felt citizens should be able to own them, but wanted stricter restrictions. Not anymore. I watch what's going on in Europe and then realize that's what Obama and Hillary and the next left winger that gets elected wants for us. No thanks.

There's certain debates that I have pretty well checked out of cuz they're always the same thing. Abortion, global warming, and guns.

 

But if you're going to say shiit, at least get educated. Obama got an absolutely failing grade from the so-called gun control nuts. Just because somebody like Rush Limbaugh tells you that Obama wants to take your guns? Doesn't make it so. Take a look at the legislation -there must be tons of it by your post- that Obama put forward to steal our guns away from us.

 

Except there isn't.

 

And that's where the NRA loses me and most of the country. They just throw out these bullshyt strawmen.

 

Go ahead Google operation Jade helm. The NRA play that up to scare the out of the yokels and it was absolutely nothing. But hey, it did one thing. Ammunition sales skyrocketed.

 

I don't like what I hear from Hillary on gun control. But then again, I don't like anything I hear from that .

 

The reality is the same as it is with virtually every argument in America. 90% of the country believes in and wants some form of Common Sense gun control above and beyond what we have right now which is worthless.

 

But unfortunately, it is the stupid Fringe on either side of that 90% that are dictating the conversation these days.

 

"You want to ban rocket launchers? What's next? My old trusty hunting rifle?"

 

We're never going to get anywhere as long as we have idiots like Alex Jones and Hillary Clinton sucking all the oxygen out of the conversation.

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And, since I got sucked into this despite my better judgement, there's this.

 

At some point, some idiot is going to chime in with this is how we defend ourselves against tyranny!

 

No, literally every Iraq e household is allowed 1 AK47 or equivalent per adult. Howd that work against us - or Saddam?

 

Trust me, if our military ever wanted to plow us down? Your old trusty hunting rifle ain't going to do the trick. In fact, the best shitt you can get across the counter isn't going to stop a F-22.

 

That argument lost all traction when the soldiers start carrying entirely different Weaponry than the citizens.

 

SEE?THATS WHY I NEED A ROCKET LAUNCHER!!😨

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Well, I was talking about how Europe imported all these Muslims and they are presently on a violent crime spree over there and the governments, who are supposed to protect people from criminals, aren't doing their job. I could see , and have seen, the same thing happening here. Not counting on a future ( some present) neutered police department and justice system to protect me and mine. Never mind the BLM a-holes and their supporters.

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Every first world country on Earth has strict gun laws.

And? Is that supposed to be a compelling argument? Here's a compelling argument:

 

The US ranks #20 in homicides per gun.

 

http://www.gunliberal.treffle.com/?p=122

 

Here's a chart, in case you cannot quite wrap that mind around the facts in question here:

 

http://www.gunliberal.treffle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/homicidespergunoecd.png

 

Would you like to me to link you to copious numbers of gun crimes which still take place in countries which have banned guns entirely as well?

 

Like the links? It's a liberal. Like you. Only this one doesn't use appeals to emotion for arguments to support gun bans.

 

Perplexing why aren't they all turning into a Nazi states?

Actually, several have turned into totalitarian states. Like Venezuela, where they also took all the guns from the citizens. Wanna imagine how it's going in Venezuela?

 

I can't figure it, because of course our guns keeps that from happening here. You need a new FFToday name.

I'll take that under advisement. Perhaps: 'OwnsGobbleDogInDebate'.

 

I forgot how low-brow these gun debates can get. Strike went with the "cars kill people!" defense. Mensa went with the "Nazis took people's guns!"

Odd how you've been reduced to repeating factual history as though it's a form of refutation...while calling it 'low brow'. Here's low brow: having absolutely no logical way to back up your 'feelings'. How about you try that one?

 

I'm waiting for the "drugs are illegal and I can still buy drugs" which is supposed to mean it's pointless to outlaw anything. Which of course is ridiculous, but don't let that stop yall.

Non sequitur. You're good at those.

 

Honestly, the worst thing about these mass shootings is that gun-right supporters aren't the only ones getting killed and wounded. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt too.

Non sequitur. Innocent people are killed all over, and apparently far more so in 19 other countries, as I've already proven.

 

Your emotional argument holds no water whatsoever.

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There's certain debates that I have pretty well checked out of cuz they're always the same ###### thing. Abortion, global warming, and guns.

But if you're going to say shiit, at least get educated. Obama got an absolutely failing grade from the so-called gun control nuts. Just because somebody like Rush Limbaugh tells you that Obama wants to take your guns? Doesn't make it so. Take a look at the legislation -there must be tons of it by your post- that Obama put forward to steal our guns away from us.

Except there isn't.

And that's where the NRA loses me and most of the country. They just throw out these bullshyt strawmen.

Go ahead Google operation Jade helm. The NRA play that up to scare the ###### out of the yokels and it was absolutely nothing. But hey, it did one thing. Ammunition sales skyrocketed.

I don't like what I hear from Hillary on gun control. But then again, I don't like anything I hear from that ######.

The reality is the same as it is with virtually every argument in America. 90% of the country believes in and wants some form of Common Sense gun control above and beyond what we have right now which is worthless.

But unfortunately, it is the stupid Fringe on either side of that 90% that are dictating the conversation these days.

"You want to ban rocket launchers? What's next? My old trusty hunting rifle?"

We're never going to get anywhere as long as we have idiots like Alex Jones and Hillary Clinton sucking all the oxygen out of the conversation.

You're wrong. Go ahead and Google it.

 

:rolleyes:

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That didn't take long.

 

Expect more shootings, bombs, and worse as the libs/MSM/deep state attempt to distract America from their impending imprisonment and removal from society.

 

Davos, pre-SOTU, post-SOTU.

 

Good guys are watching.

 

Evil will be stopped.

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Every first world country on Earth has strict gun laws. Perplexing why aren't they all turning into a Nazi states? I can't figure it, because of course our guns keeps that from happening here. You need a new FFToday name.

 

I forgot how low-brow these gun debates can get. Strike went with the "cars kill people!" defense. Mensa went with the "Nazis took people's guns!". I'm waiting for the "drugs are illegal and I can still buy drugs" which is supposed to mean it's pointless to outlaw anything. Which of course is ridiculous, but don't let that stop yall.

 

Honestly, the worst thing about these mass shootings is that gun-right supporters aren't the only ones getting killed and wounded. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt too.

 

I hope you realize you scream the same sh*t every time there's a shooting. That loses your credibility. As far as first world countries go, it would be nice if you would acknowledge that the one you live in was founded specifically to get away from the others. And they made gun ownership a right. I suggest you move if you prefer the ideals of other first world countries that more closely meet your gun control thoughts. In the U.S.A., If it wasn't for those with the balls to use a gun pussies like you would still be licking Great Britain's balls.

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Every first world country on Earth has strict gun laws. Perplexing why aren't they all turning into a Nazi states? I can't figure it, because of course our guns keeps that from happening here. You need a new FFToday name.

 

I forgot how low-brow these gun debates can get. Strike went with the "cars kill people!" defense. Mensa went with the "Nazis took people's guns!". I'm waiting for the "drugs are illegal and I can still buy drugs" which is supposed to mean it's pointless to outlaw anything. Which of course is ridiculous, but don't let that stop yall.

 

Honestly, the worst thing about these mass shootings is that gun-right supporters aren't the only ones getting killed and wounded. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt too.

I'm still waiting on you to turn your guns in. Because until then, you can't be taken seriously.

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I'm still waiting on you to turn your guns in. Because until then, you can't be taken seriously.

I agree he shouldn't own firearms. But let's be honest, you aren't willing to take any advocate of gun control seriously.

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I agree he shouldn't own firearms. But let's be honest, you aren't willing to take any advocate of gun control seriously.

On the contrary. I take every serious advocate of gun control seriously. I have to. :dunno:

 

I don't believe for a second that everybody should be running around with guns.

 

Just like I don't think everybody should be driving cars or having kids.

 

It's the knee jerk, reactionary, know nothing's that I oppose. Perhaps I do myself and, more importantly, my argument, a disservice by being as passionate (or obstinate) as I am about the topic. However, I have a lifetime of hands on experience with firearms that argues against your position.

 

All due respect Doc. I appreciate your perspective, I really do. We just happen to disagree here.

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I agree he shouldn't own firearms. But let's be honest, you aren't willing to take any advocate of gun control seriously.

 

Answer this. Does this advocate of gun control warrant serious discussion? If so, based on what?

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