The Manafort Indictment: Not Much There, and a Boon for Trump

[Mike Honcho 4,031]

 

That was 4 people you quoted. Dumbass.

 

And proving my point about the brain power of the qouted group... 90'sbaby.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,641]

Honcho with an interesting post. What's going on? It's been a weird day. Nice job

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

 

And proving my point about the brain power of the qouted group... 90'sbaby.

 

I literally didn't register what you said only saw "3 Stooges" and thought this dumbass can't count. You got me.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

Literally the only dude that still believes this.

You dont even realize how dumb this statement of yours is...

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

That was 4 people you quoted. Dumbass.

Holy man...

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Holy ###### man...

 

 

I literally didn't register what you said only saw "3 Stooges" and thought this dumbass can't count. You got me.

 

He got me. I admitted it. You see that? It's called being an adult, try it sometime.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,641]

 

 

He got me. I admitted it. You see that? It's called being an adult, try it sometime.

He saw it, but it's the rare instance when he can get one in. Thanks to somebody else, of course.

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Its really not looking like that at all.

You dont even realize how dumb this statement of yours is...

Holy ###### man...

Do you have a take on what a Judge said causing the bump in this thread?

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

Do you have a take on what a Judge said causing the bump in this thread?

Its not great thing for that part of the case...if it was about everything...the claim that it looks like chargesmight be dropped would hold more weight.

Manafort and his team have been slapped around by several judges too over the past few weeks.

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Its not great thing for that part of the case...if it was about everything...the claim that it looks like chargesmight be dropped would hold more weight.

Manafort and his team have been slapped around by several judges too over the past few weeks.

What part of the case isn't it good about?

[wiffleball 4,640]

I know Trump and the fox turfs are really happy about this on its face. But I don't think they've read through the whole transcript nor do I think they've thought through this all the way.

 

Basically, the judge is saying wait a minute you pushed off certain things in the Cohen case to state courts, why aren't you carving out some of these things in the manafort case to? Hence, remember the whole conversation about the taint team?

 

The answer is, because the manafort payoffs are related to election meddling. But let's pretend that's not the case or at least not provable. This isn't a zero-sum game. Then molars team does indeed do what the judge says and cars out a big chunk of it and sends it to a state court a state prosecutor.

 

That's where the fit hits the Shan. Because Trump can't protect him anymore. Presidential pardons don't apply to State charges.

 

And, depending upon where the checks were cut and other details, it very well may not be, likely will not be in Virginia.

 

So, Trump better not without the bubbly just yet. Either way he's pretty well screwed. And he probably better off keeping it out of state jurisdictions.

[Reality 2,710]

[IMMensaMind 459]

Okay, so now I get what "Fake News" is, thanks.

Time to reassess what you consider fake, and what is real. All of those posts are proving out as accurate.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Time to reassess what you consider fake, and what is real. All of those posts are proving out as accurate.

 

Good to have you back.

[IMMensaMind 459]

I think we're within 6 weeks of hearing General Flynn exonerated. The Left is busy attempting to construct a narrative that explains why Mueller has now delayed sentencing Flynn for the second time - claiming it's "procedure" when a party turns state's evidence - but that's not what is going on.

 

Flynn hasn't "ratted" on Trump; I don't believe that there is anything about which to rat. I believe what is happening is that at Mueller knows that Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, and now he's dealing with the increasingly large raft of evidence that the FBI attempted to railroad the General, and he's absolutely outmaneuvered them.

 

In fact - if you are coming around to this way of thinking - it also then begs the question: is Mueller who we think he is? Was stacking his team with blatant leftists all a show, to force the Left to rah-rah Mueller, and get them to do all-in on him, so - when the bell finally tolls - it tolls for them as well?

 

Mueller as an incompetent/corrupt/dirty operative, but turned into a tool to take down the Deep State in return for forgiveness" is starting to take on momentum. That would make Mueller both dirty AND an implement put in place by Trump.

 

I'm not yet sold on that angle, but I'm very close. If this turns out true, then Trump will be called the most brilliant man we have ever had the pleasure of calling President.

 

If you really want to understand what General Flynn did when pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, you should Google "Brady Case" and "General Flynn".

 

If what has happened reflects what I believe happened, Flynn is not only a national hero - and one who took a ridiculous risk in order to shine the light of corruption to the highest echelons of the Deep State - but the entire legal team who realized the implications of realizing that the FBI prosecutors of Flynn withholding exculpatory evidence could be used to set a forever trap AND THEN CONSTRUCTING A BRILLIANT STRATEGY TO pull the rug out from under his antagonists...should get medals of honor.

 

This would then be a coup, pulled on those who attempted a coup. Movies will be made about it; books will be written about it. The world will never ever forget it. If true.

 

It could even be that - if my earlier speculation about Mueller being a helpless pawn to pull this off in return for his own immunity to prosecution is accurate - that Mueller put the corrupt parties in the position for them to hang themselves with their own rope and willingly frame Flynn in order to 'get Trump', thus exposing them 100%.

 

I think the next several weeks are going to be fascinating. The dismissal of Page and Baker signals the beginning of that fun news period.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Good to have you back.

Man, the IOTA news coming out just looks to me like I'm reading all about Amazon while it was still under $20. I see BIG things in the near AND distant future. What they're in the midst of doing is impressive. I have become a huge fan of Sergey Ivancheglo (CfB).

 

Thanks for making me aware of IOTA!

[SenatorRock 708]

I think we're within 6 weeks of hearing General Flynn exonerated. The Left is busy attempting to construct a narrative that explains why Mueller has now delayed sentencing Flynn for the second time - claiming it's "procedure" when a party turns state's evidence - but that's not what is going on.

 

Flynn hasn't "ratted" on Trump; I don't believe that there is anything about which to rat. I believe what is happening is that at Mueller knows that Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, and now he's dealing with the increasingly large raft of evidence that the FBI attempted to railroad the General, and he's absolutely outmaneuvered them.

 

In fact - if you are coming around to this way of thinking - it also then begs the question: is Mueller who we think he is? Was stacking his team with blatant leftists all a show, to force the Left to rah-rah Mueller, and get them to do all-in on him, so - when the bell finally tolls - it tolls for them as well?

 

Mueller as an incompetent/corrupt/dirty operative, but turned into a tool to take down the Deep State in return for forgiveness" is starting to take on momentum. That would make Mueller both dirty AND an implement put in place by Trump.

 

I'm not yet sold on that angle, but I'm very close. If this turns out true, then Trump will be called the most brilliant man we have ever had the pleasure of calling President.

 

If you really want to understand what General Flynn did when pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, you should Google "Brady Case" and "General Flynn".

 

If what has happened reflects what I believe happened, Flynn is not only a national hero - and one who took a ridiculous risk in order to shine the light of corruption to the highest echelons of the Deep State - but the entire legal team who realized the implications of realizing that the FBI prosecutors of Flynn withholding exculpatory evidence could be used to set a forever trap AND THEN CONSTRUCTING A BRILLIANT STRATEGY TO pull the rug out from under his antagonists...should get ###### medals of honor.

 

This would then be a coup, pulled on those who attempted a coup. Movies will be made about it; books will be written about it. The world will never ever forget it. If true.

 

It could even be that - if my earlier speculation about Mueller being a helpless pawn to pull this off in return for his own immunity to prosecution is accurate - that Mueller put the corrupt parties in the position for them to hang themselves with their own rope and willingly frame Flynn in order to 'get Trump', thus exposing them 100%.

 

I think the next several weeks are going to be fascinating. The dismissal of Page and Baker signals the beginning of that fun news period.

 

Somehow I am out of my daily allotment of likes, just wanted to acknowledge this post. Great points.

[IMMensaMind 459]

There was a great twitter storm on the transcript of the Judge Ellis hearing. Must read; doesn't look good for the Mueller team:

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/992801198829965314.html

[drobeski 3,061]

There was a great twitter storm on the transcript of the Judge Ellis hearing. Must read; doesn't look good for the Mueller team:

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/992801198829965314.html

its unraveling quickly now. Even the Russian bots are calling their bluff.

[Sho Nuff 719]

its unraveling quickly now. Even the Russian bots are calling their bluff.

Its really not...but hey...techno fog told you so...

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

its unraveling quickly now. Even the Russian bots are calling their bluff.

That SloTard guy's whole stick is to basically come into a thread and deny reality.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Its really not...but hey...techno fog told you so...

What the transcripts say told me. We Conservatives look at the words, and not the people delivering them.

[jerryskids 5,204]

What the transcripts say told me. We Conservatives look at the words, and not the people delivering them.

 

IKR? The link has the freaking transcript and Sho is all but but but techno fog! Sad really.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

IKR? The link has the freaking transcript and Sho is all but but but techno fog! Sad really.

 

When you're a slave to your DNC plantation masters, that's all you know.

 

It's not any different than people in a cult - everyone on the outside sees the absurdity except the people on the inside. Ultimately, what it comes down to, is that people like Slo WANT and NEED to be led by a master telling them what to do, what to say and how to think. It's part of their DNA.

 

Just about every post you see in here from a poster with TDS exhibits all of the classic signs of being in a cult.

[Sho Nuff 719]

What the transcripts say told me. We Conservatives look at the words, and not the people delivering them.

You didnt look at the transcripts you looked at some ones version of them and you know it.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

IKR? The link has the freaking transcript and Sho is all but but but techno fog! Sad really.

To claim it doesnt look good for Mueller shows me he didnt read the whole thing but relied on the commentary.

[Mr. Hand 482]

That SloTard guy's whole stick is to basically come into a thread and deny reality.

He’s delusional.

[drobeski 3,061]

To claim it doesnt look good for Mueller shows me he didnt read the whole thing but relied on the commentary.

this sounds more like you

[IMMensaMind 459]

You didnt look at the transcripts you looked at some ones version of them and you know it.

To claim it doesnt look good for Mueller shows me he didnt read the whole thing but relied on the commentary.

Huh?

 

Mueller's team was virtually ridiculed by Judge Ellis. Did you read anything different?

 

Are you going to try to say that such an interaction with the Judge hearing the case doesn't reflect terribly on Mueller and his team?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I think we're within 6 weeks of hearing General Flynn exonerated. The Left is busy attempting to construct a narrative that explains why Mueller has now delayed sentencing Flynn for the second time - claiming it's "procedure" when a party turns state's evidence - but that's not what is going on.

 

Flynn hasn't "ratted" on Trump; I don't believe that there is anything about which to rat. I believe what is happening is that at Mueller knows that Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, and now he's dealing with the increasingly large raft of evidence that the FBI attempted to railroad the General, and he's absolutely outmaneuvered them.

 

In fact - if you are coming around to this way of thinking - it also then begs the question: is Mueller who we think he is? Was stacking his team with blatant leftists all a show, to force the Left to rah-rah Mueller, and get them to do all-in on him, so - when the bell finally tolls - it tolls for them as well?

 

Mueller as an incompetent/corrupt/dirty operative, but turned into a tool to take down the Deep State in return for forgiveness" is starting to take on momentum. That would make Mueller both dirty AND an implement put in place by Trump.

 

I'm not yet sold on that angle, but I'm very close. If this turns out true, then Trump will be called the most brilliant man we have ever had the pleasure of calling President.

 

If you really want to understand what General Flynn did when pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, you should Google "Brady Case" and "General Flynn".

 

If what has happened reflects what I believe happened, Flynn is not only a national hero - and one who took a ridiculous risk in order to shine the light of corruption to the highest echelons of the Deep State - but the entire legal team who realized the implications of realizing that the FBI prosecutors of Flynn withholding exculpatory evidence could be used to set a forever trap AND THEN CONSTRUCTING A BRILLIANT STRATEGY TO pull the rug out from under his antagonists...should get ###### medals of honor.

 

This would then be a coup, pulled on those who attempted a coup. Movies will be made about it; books will be written about it. The world will never ever forget it. If true.

 

It could even be that - if my earlier speculation about Mueller being a helpless pawn to pull this off in return for his own immunity to prosecution is accurate - that Mueller put the corrupt parties in the position for them to hang themselves with their own rope and willingly frame Flynn in order to 'get Trump', thus exposing them 100%.

 

I think the next several weeks are going to be fascinating. The dismissal of Page and Baker signals the beginning of that fun news period.

 

I'm waffling back and forth on the Mueller/White Hat theory. There's been so much theatrics that we simply don't know whose a stage prop and whose aware of the part they're playing. Nothing is as it seems and Trump is a master of getting people to play their part without they're even being aware they've been casted for that role.

 

The cooperation of Page, Strzok, Ohr, Baker and Priestrap is coming to an end (hence the resignation of Page/Baker) therefore we should expect the I.G.'s report in the next week or two. The criminal referrals should follow quickly to clue the HIC and SIC that the reason a lot of the documentation isn't being released is because it's evidence and/or would show the prosecutor's hand.

 

IRT Flynn; he'll most certainly walk but I doubt the general public will ever know what a bullet he took for the country. Just day(s) after the plea, FISA Judge Contreras is recused. How he signed off the first FISA on Carter Page AND got the Flynn case will no doubt cause some collateral damage in regard to that process. Just as concerning for those that set it up was the appointment of Sullivan to the case. Is that more evidence of Mueller being a white hat?

 

You didnt look at the transcripts you looked at some ones version of them and you know it.

 

It was an actual copy of the transcript FFS.

 

Here's the entire thing...........https://www.scribd.com/document/378289155/U-S-Special-Counsel-Mueller-Vs-Paul-Manafort-Judge-TS-Ellis-III-Presiding-May-4-2017?campaign=SkimbitLtd&ad_group=725X700959X3b0c0a6ea0585ee46fd52e5d9c556df9&keyword=660149026&source=hp_affiliate&medium=affiliate

 

Sho's denial of facts coming to light is nearly complete. Those that point out facts to him are summarily blocked. Ignorance is bliss I guess.