++ UPDATE: AP requests a trade to the Cowboys - Reinstated

[Cruzer 1,992]

Vikings GM Rick Spielman says he has "no interest" in trading Adrian Peterson.

 

looks like all the ap drama is finally over

Yea, I'm not going to fully believe it until the draft is over and training camps have started. Mostly bcoz I don't see the Vikes paying out the back end of that ridiculous contract.

[weepaws 2,451]

AP drama is just getting started.

[Flyfreak 84]

Yea, I'm not going to fully believe it until the draft is over and training camps have started. Mostly bcoz I don't see the Vikes paying out the back end of that ridiculous contract.

i think they're okay with paying him for next season and then they'll move on from there

[weepaws 2,451]

Don't see Peterson playing for the Vikings this season . He already said he feels disrespected from the Vikings . Of course he did , after he beat his son of course . Never heard him say that before he was out of football .

[Flyfreak 84]

Don't see Peterson playing for the Vikings this season . He already said he feels disrespected from the Vikings . Of course he did , after he beat his son of course . Never heard him say that before he was out of football .

for the $ he's making he'll play anywhere and like it

[weepaws 2,451]

for the $ he's making he'll play anywhere and like it

Not with the Vikings

[Flyfreak 84]

Not with the Vikings

why not

[weepaws 2,451]

why not

Don't think he will be playing there . How about you ?

[Flyfreak 84]

Don't think he will be playing there . How about you ?

i can see him playing there, or arizona, maybe dallas

 

it appears that the viking management will give him another year and won't make a hasty move

[Cruzer 1,992]

it appears that the viking management will give him another year and won't make a hasty move

If Minny were smart, and they know already that they plan to release AP after this season - they should deal him now. Trade him now and get whatever you can get for him - even if it's a 2nd and a 4th (which I think they could get), you do it and at least get something for him. It's bad business sense to let your most valuable asset walk out the door w/out leveraging it for some kind of return. And let's face it, there is no way Minny shells out $15m and $17m respectively for a RB 2 and 3 years from now.

[weepaws 2,451]

If Minny were smart, and they know already that they plan to release AP after this season - they should deal him now. Trade him now and get whatever you can get for him - even if it's a 2nd and a 4th (which I think they could get), you do it and at least get something for him. It's bad business sense to let your most valuable asset walk out the door w/out leveraging it for some kind of return. And let's face it, there is no way Minny shells out $15m and $17m respectively for a RB 2 and 3 years from now.

You are talking about the same Vikings that let the time run out on a draft pick once also right ? . So let's not get ahead of are selfs in thinking they will make the right choices when it comes to Peterson .

[Cruzer 1,992]

You are talking about the same Vikings that let the time run out on a draft pick once also right ? . So let's not get ahead of are selfs in thinking they will make the right choices when it comes to Peterson.

Omg, I forgot about that. Good point.

[Flyfreak 84]

If Minny were smart, and they know already that they plan to release AP after this season - they should deal him now. Trade him now and get whatever you can get for him - even if it's a 2nd and a 4th (which I think they could get), you do it and at least get something for him. It's bad business sense to let your most valuable asset walk out the door w/out leveraging it for some kind of return. And let's face it, there is no way Minny shells out $15m and $17m respectively for a RB 2 and 3 years from now.

I think they're thoughts are, keep him this year and hope he has a record setting season and then sell high

[Cruzer 1,992]

I think they're thoughts are, keep him this year and hope he has a record setting season and then sell high

Idk - 31 year old rb's don't appreciate with time. AP is 3 years removed from a 2000 yard season and he isn't getting any younger. He is as healthy as he ever going to be having sat out for a while - his value is never going to be higher than it is right now.

[Flyfreak 84]

Idk - 31 year old rb's don't appreciate with time. AP is 3 years removed from a 2000 yard season and he isn't getting any younger. He is as healthy as he ever going to be having sat out for a while - his value is never going to be higher than it is right now.

it looks like the vikes are sitting at the blackjack table, holding a 16

[Cruzer 1,992]

it looks like the vikes are sitting at the blackjack table, holding a 16

Just think about it. Minny picks around 11 so they could have 2 picks in the first 45 - and still pick up another 2nd and 4th. Wow - you could really improve a team with that, including another top rated rb to replace AP... And, and - you get to dump $13m of salary for the 2015 season.... Somebody in Minny needs to be working the phones.

[Flyfreak 84]

Just think about it. Minny picks around 11 so they could have 2 picks in the first 45 - and still pick up another 2nd and 4th. Wow - you could really improve a team with that, including another top rated rb to replace AP... And, and - you get to dump $13m of salary for the 2015 season.... Somebody in Minny needs to be working the phones.

no doubt, I guess we'll find out soon enough

[Vikings4ever 496]

An interesting note from yesterday's paper: The Vikings have NOT allowed other teams to contact Peterson. So teams aren't allowed to negotiate a new contract or run him through a physical until after any trade is made.

 

With that news I'd be surprised if Peterson isn't playing for the Vikings this year.

[Cruzer 1,992]

Well - today is the day. If AP is going to be traded, you gatta think it will be today... Each Round and each day that passes his price goes down. Today would be perfect to swing a deal for a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th. Considering Gurley and Gordon are gone, and that we got the corner we wanted - I would not be shocked to see Dallas make a play for him.

[Eagles Green 34]

Well - today is the day. If AP is going to be traded, you gatta think it will be today... Each Round and each day that passes his price goes down. Today would be perfect to swing a deal for a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th. Considering Gurley and Gordon are gone, and that we got the corner we wanted - I would not be shocked to see Dallas make a play for him.

If they land AP I'm going to be worried.

[Cruzer 1,992]

If they land AP I'm going to be worried.

I was worried you guys were going to take a CB, but you got a hell of a WR out of the deal nonetheless. If you guys can keep Bradford upright, he will have some serious weapons at his disposal.

[Flyfreak 84]

Well - today is the day. If AP is going to be traded, you gatta think it will be today... Each Round and each day that passes his price goes down. Today would be perfect to swing a deal for a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th. Considering Gurley and Gordon are gone, and that we got the corner we wanted - I would not be shocked to see Dallas make a play for him.

soon we'll see how stupid or smart the vikings are

[Cruzer 1,992]

soon we'll see how stupid or smart the vikings are

I just can't believe they'd be so dumb as to not get at least something out of him before they cut him. I'd bet Dallas would give them our 2nd this year and a 3rd or 4th next year.

 

Then again I witnessed Tennessee shiat the bed last night...

[LunaTick 29]

There are a few things many of you need to begin thinking about and realizing about Adrian.

 

1. He isn't very smart.

2. He isn't a leader.

3. He isn't a man or a dad.

3. And is easily led astray. See Ben Dogra. See NFLPA.

 

Think, why the motivation behind the "demand a trade" strategy of Ben Dogra.

If to avoid the Vikings asking for less money, it may work.

But appears more likely to benefit Ben Dogra. AP current contract negotiated by another. Begs question why hire Ben Dogra.

 

Reality is this.

Adrian has not done a damn thing to repair his image. One statement isn't enough. Especially when the next statement is saying you are the victim.

 

Doing nothing, then making a dumb comment about being a victim. Followed up with Ben Dogra.

 

This may not end well for AP.

His return to MN, wether as a Vike or on another team, may be to a hostile and negative fan reaction.

 

Smart people in sports realize their value is their Image. It isn't talent. It isn't statistics. It is their image. The image is portable and may be cashed in well into retirement. See Jordan. See Montana. See Peter Rose.

 

Jordan still sells shoes.

So does Montana.

Rose hopes you will buy his autographs wherever he is allowed to pitch his table.

Meanwhile Kareem Abdul Jabbar is just now repairing his.

 

Game day checks only last as long as there are games to play.

 

BTW, quit being such lambs to the slaughter. ESPN is not longer credible and have not been for quite some time.

[Flyfreak 84]

Cowboys signed Georgia Tech RB Synjyn Days.

Days (6'1/232) was a rotational back in the Yellow Jackets' triple option, finishing his career with 255 carries for 1,396 yards (5.47 YPC) and 18 TDs. He only caught seven passes in college. Davis showed lackluster athleticism at his Pro Day, running 4.60/4.61 with a 9-foot-8 broad jump. Like Anthony Allen and Jonathan Dwyer before him, Days' college production was likely the product of Paul Johnson's system. We projected Days as a possible No. 3 back/special teamer before the draft. The fact that he landed in Dallas makes him slightly interesting.

 

 

the cowboys finally got their man

[stonewall 647]

 

Cowboys signed Georgia Tech RB Synjyn Days.

Days (6'1/232) was a rotational back in the Yellow Jackets' triple option, finishing his career with 255 carries for 1,396 yards (5.47 YPC) and 18 TDs. He only caught seven passes in college. Davis showed lackluster athleticism at his Pro Day, running 4.60/4.61 with a 9-foot-8 broad jump. Like Anthony Allen and Jonathan Dwyer before him, Days' college production was likely the product of Paul Johnson's system. We projected Days as a possible No. 3 back/special teamer before the draft. The fact that he landed in Dallas makes him slightly interesting.

 

 

the cowboys finally got their man

 

 

They shoulda picked up the undrafted kid outta Vale....Tyler Varga. Behind that Dallas o-line, he would roll. Don't know is anyone saw him in the Senior Bowl, but the kid is a straight-up baller. Colts grabbed him.

 

"The most impressive running back of all on Saturday at the Senior Bowl, however, was Tyler Varga. A college tailback who was listed on the North roster as a fullback, Varga showed an impressively well-rounded skill set Saturday.

 

As a tailback, Varga ran the ball four times for 31 yards; two of his runs went for touchdowns. As a fullback, Varga made a number of strong lead blocks up the middle, including one on Cobb’s four-yard touchdown. Varga also displayed pass-catching ability, as he did all week in practice, with three receptions for 39 yards.

 

A 5’10”, 227-pound Ivy League product, Varga projects only as a late-round draft pick, but he’s likely to emerge as a quality player for whichever team is smart enough to jump on him."

[Flyfreak 84]

Free agent RB Chris Johnson has interest in playing for the Cowboys.

The three-time Pro Bowler recently said he'd be a good fit for Dallas, encouraging the Cowboys to "holler" at him. The Cowboys inexplicably failed to address running back in the draft and will open the year with underachieving Darren McFadden as the starter. Th 29-year-old Johnson doesn't have much left in the tank and teams have been hesitant to sign him after getting shot in the shoulder earlier this offseason. May 6 - 9:49 AM

Source: Dallas Morning News

 

 

cruzer's gonna wet himself when he sees this exciting news

[sirensong 111]

the cowboys RB draft coverage is funny. it's "inexplicable" that they didn't draft a RB early? well...which did DAL need more--secondary help or a RB? obviously secondary help. which did DAL need more--a pass rusher or a RB? obviously a pass rusher. so the only rational place to draft a RB was in the 3rd round or later.

 

now, i have to say that i would have been happier going RB in the 3rd, but i can't fault the reasoning for going with a multi-position OLman there. DAL lost their swing tackle in the offseason, weems is still in the project phase, and the OL is the engine that makes the offense work. an injury to free or smith creates serious problems, and those problems dump more pressure on the defense. all things considered, it's reasonable to say that swing tackle was a more pressing need than RB.

 

the ultimate question is this: was a 3rd round rookie RB going to be clearly better than randle or williams or mcfadden? the guys who went in the 2nd, probably. but the 3rd is kind of a grey area--we're not really sure. so it makes sense for SJ, mcclay, and garrett to say "we're more comfortable going into the season with better OL depth than with a possible upgrade at RB."

 

of course, this all depends on how things shake out in camp. if green can't come in and take over the 3OT spot, then it's reasonable for everyone to say "ajayi would have been a better gamble."

 

 

but please god no CJ.

[Flyfreak 84]

the cowboys RB draft coverage is funny. it's "inexplicable" that they didn't draft a RB early? well...which did DAL need more--secondary help or a RB? obviously secondary help. which did DAL need more--a pass rusher or a RB? obviously a pass rusher. so the only rational place to draft a RB was in the 3rd round or later.

 

now, i have to say that i would have been happier going RB in the 3rd, but i can't fault the reasoning for going with a multi-position OLman there. DAL lost their swing tackle in the offseason, weems is still in the project phase, and the OL is the engine that makes the offense work. an injury to free or smith creates serious problems, and those problems dump more pressure on the defense. all things considered, it's reasonable to say that swing tackle was a more pressing need than RB.

 

the ultimate question is this: was a 3rd round rookie RB going to be clearly better than randle or williams or mcfadden? the guys who went in the 2nd, probably. but the 3rd is kind of a grey area--we're not really sure. so it makes sense for SJ, mcclay, and garrett to say "we're more comfortable going into the season with better OL depth than with a possible upgrade at RB."

 

of course, this all depends on how things shake out in camp. if green can't come in and take over the 3OT spot, then it's reasonable for everyone to say "ajayi would have been a better gamble."

 

 

but please god no CJ.

to be fair, you cowboy fans were the ones talking about drafting a rb in the early rounds

 

everyone else was saying you need to get a good vet to lead the team to the promised land

 

ChrisJohnson2Kowboys

[sirensong 111]

that wasn't aimed at you--rather the source (which happens to be a dallas writer).

 

jerry said post-draft that gurley was the only prospect that they expected to be able to beat out mcfadden (considering passing game roles). and IIRC, stephen said they there were RBs they liked, but never at the specific pick.

[Flyfreak 84]

that wasn't aimed at you--rather the source (which happens to be a dallas writer).

 

jerry said post-draft that gurley was the only prospect that they expected to be able to beat out mcfadden (considering passing game roles). and IIRC, stephen said they there were RBs they liked, but never at the specific pick.

i'll say it again, the cowboys really need a good d.murray type back to go with this team and the small window that's open to win the sb

[sirensong 111]

i think they need good production out of the running game. DAL has gone all-in on the idea that OL quality is more important than RB quality when it comes to getting that production.

 

but the real issue is defense--when a one-legged QB who missed almost 2 weeks of practice can put up a 125 passer rating against your defense, you're not going to win playoff games. people are fond of saying that DAL was 1 bad call away from beating GB. they often forget that DAL was one bad call from losing to DET.

 

murray was was completely irrelevant in both situations.

[Flyfreak 84]

i think they need good production out of the running game. DAL has gone all-in on the idea that OL quality is more important than RB quality when it comes to getting that production.

 

but the real issue is defense--when a one-legged QB who missed almost 2 weeks of practice can put up a 125 passer rating against your defense, you're not going to win playoff games. people are fond of saying that DAL was 1 bad call away from beating GB. they often forget that DAL was one bad call from losing to DET.

 

murray was was completely irrelevant in both situations.

you can't play the irrelevant card on murray, as he did his job in both games and put them in a position to win

 

yes, they need help on defense, but they still need to put up huge rushing numbers to keep the passing game crisp

 

dmc sucks and those other guys had zero pressure running behind murray

[R8RMick 242]

I almost wish they trot that committee business out there just to watch it fail. I predict it will be very similar to the first two games of the 1993 season, when Emmitt was holding out.

 

It's become apparent they never had intent to re-sign Murray. A fact which was obvious once Romo restructured. I think this committee bullshite is a smokescreen and that Peterson will be a Cowboy by Fourth of July. They MAY get him for a 2016 second rounder, but even so does anyone here truthfully think a Super Bowl appearance isn't worth a First Round pick to Jerry Jones?

 

After years of hearing how that team was one player away, the first rounders burned in the Galloway and Williams deals, it may actually be a true statement now.

[Flyfreak 84]

I almost wish they trot that committee business out there just to watch it fail. I predict it will be very similar to the first two games of the 1993 season, when Emmitt was holding out.

 

It's become apparent they never had intent to re-sign Murray. A fact which was obvious once Romo restructured. I think this committee bullshite is a smokescreen and that Peterson will be a Cowboy by Fourth of July. They MAY get him for a 2016 second rounder, but even so does anyone here truthfully think a Super Bowl appearance isn't worth a First Round pick to Jerry Jones?

 

After years of hearing how that team was one player away, the first rounders burned in the Galloway and Williams deals, it may actually be a true statement now.

it looks like the saints might move k.robinson

 

i wonder if the cowboys make a move for him?

[Flyfreak 84]

hmmmmmmmmm, another twist in the plot

 

In a radio interview, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones didn't rule out the possibility of trading Dallas' 2016 first-round pick for a running back.

Dallas' current backfield is comprised of scrap-heap runners and Joseph Randle, who was effective in a lightly used change-up-back role last season but doesn't project as a volume runner. The Cowboys believe they essentially got three first-round picks this year in Byron Jones, Randy Gregory, and La'El Collins, and may be willing to part with their 2016 round-one selection. "I'd be reluctant to," Jones first conceded. "But certainly if the right situation came along that could improve us now, with where we are with (Tony) Romo, his career and where we are with what we've put together, it's a good time to go for it." Romo is 35 years old.

Source: FOX Sports

[GreenTD 56]

With Jerrah saying he'd toss out a 1st rounder for a game changing RB, how could the Vikes not take this deal? They get ample compensation for a guy who doesn't want to be there & Dallas gets another piece to the puzzle.

 

Also, if AP were to land in Dallas, how is he not the consensus #1 FF player drafted next season?

[Flyfreak 84]

With Jerrah saying he'd toss out a 1st rounder for a game changing RB, how could the Vikes not take this deal? They get ample compensation for a guy who doesn't want to be there & Dallas gets another piece to the puzzle.

 

Also, if AP were to land in Dallas, how is he not the consensus #1 FF player drafted next season?

i'd take ap with #1 regardless of where he plays

 

he's gonna kick so much ass this year

[Cruzer 1,992]

 

hmmmmmmmmm, another twist in the plot

 

In a radio interview, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones didn't rule out the possibility of trading Dallas' 2016 first-round pick for a running back.

Dallas' current backfield is comprised of scrap-heap runners and Joseph Randle, who was effective in a lightly used change-up-back role last season but doesn't project as a volume runner. The Cowboys believe they essentially got three first-round picks this year in Byron Jones, Randy Gregory, and La'El Collins, and may be willing to part with their 2016 round-one selection. "I'd be reluctant to," Jones first conceded. "But certainly if the right situation came along that could improve us now, with where we are with (Tony) Romo, his career and where we are with what we've put together, it's a good time to go for it." Romo is 35 years old.

Source: FOX Sports

 

I was dead set against trading the farm for AP this year, But I would def consider dealing picks in 2016... Re: we bolstered our offensive line and we added key defensive players thru the draft this year... Considering we did not draft a RB - I would not be shocked to see AP a Cowboys soon.

[R8RMick 242]

My prediction is by Fourth of July. Then they draft their RB of the future next year.