Dez concussed Monday, will not play Thursday

[CornKobb 48]

Mike Fischer reporting on jerry jones show. rotoworld also.

 

And so it begins..........lol

 

im a Cryboy fan

[Cruzer 1,992]

Mike Fischer reporting on jerry jones show. rotoworld also.

 

And so it begins..........lol

 

im a Cryboy fan

Meh, he'll be fine.. The devastating concussion that's coming will be Sean Lee's. Once it gets here, and it will - this already half ass defense will be totally devoid of playmakers.

[polecatt 399]

Yeah, he'll be okay

Let him rest his foot a game

[Kent 228]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

[CornKobb 48]

Im a Cowboy fan as stated, our group of guys in Texas have and over/under 3.5 games bet on when Dez throws his first sideline or locker room temper tantrum

 

Its sad.....only 3 playoff wins since 1995. It used to hurt when they lost but us 40 somethings just shake it off and laugh now. Comic relief and a lot of scar tissue.

 

They will be back some day but we are not holding our breath lol

[Kent 228]

Im a Cowboy fan as stated, our group of guys in Texas have and over/under 3.5 games bet on when Dez throws his first sideline or locker room temper tantrum

 

Its sad.....only 3 playoff wins since 1995. It used to hurt when they lost but us 40 somethings just shake it off and laugh now. Comic relief and a lot of scar tissue.

 

They will be back some day but we are not holding our breath lol

I'll take the under.

[CornKobb 48]

I'll take the under.

 

Me too

[Cruzer 1,992]

Its sad.....only 3 playoff wins since 1995. It used to hurt when they lost but us 40 somethings just shake it off and laugh now. Comic relief and a lot of scar tissue.

I've been a fan since '75 - I can promise you I'm not laughing and shaking it off. It pisses me off to high hell - makes me crazy.

 

But speaking of Dez - I do get a kick out of the Dez haters.. Since day 1, they've been itching, flat out dying, for this guy to fall into some kind of explosive mess - whether legal or some other kind. They are so desperate and blood thirsty for it they over exaggerate every little snippet of news, any hint and whisper of turmoil and their rabbit ears go up and they're running with pitch forks. Last year, the news of a "secret" Dez video had these idiots in a circle jerk, feeding frenzy - it was nauseating to watch... But, as is usually the case - they are left with a bag full of nothing and they retreat, awaiting the next charge.

 

Not to compare him physically or on the field, but in terms of being a pariah - Dez is the modern day Randy Moss. In 1998 20 teams passed on him (cinci twice) all bcoz of 'bad news' stigma. For years everybody kept waiting, pitch forks in hand - for Randy to screw up.. 18 years later and they're still waiting.

[CornKobb 48]

I've been a fan since '75 - I can promise you I'm not laughing and shaking it off. It pisses me off to high hell - makes me crazy.

 

But speaking of Dez - I do get a kick out of the Dez haters.. Since day 1, they've been itching, flat out dying, for this guy to fall into some kind of explosive mess - whether legal or some other kind. They are so desperate and blood thirsty for it they over exaggerate every little snippet of news, any hint and whisper of turmoil and their rabbit ears go up and they're running with pitch forks. Last year, the news of a "secret" Dez video had these idiots in a circle jerk, feeding frenzy - it was nauseating to watch... But, as is usually the case - they are left with a bag full of nothing and they retreat, awaiting the next charge.

 

Not to compare him physically or on the field, but in terms of being a pariah - Dez is the modern day Randy Moss. In 1998 20 teams passed on him (cinci twice) all bcoz of 'bad news' stigma. For years everybody kept waiting, pitch forks in hand - for Randy to screw up.. 18 years later and they're still waiting.

it makes/made me mad too. sooner or later you have to say, Show me! I have taken the new approach as a Cowboy fan to not get excited until they hit 9 wins.

 

Until then they are a 3 ring Circus.

 

There 2nd rounders of Randy Gregory, Gavin Escobar, and the Notre Dame kid who can't lift his leg because of drop foot is why they continue to be a 8-8 sideshow.

 

Im sick of the talk, show me.

[stonewall 647]

Good news, in a way. Have several drafts coming up this week/weekend. He is a target of mine, and now he won't have a chance to catch another highlight TD in the week 3 preseason game.

 

He has already proven that he can produce with Dak if Romo goes down....and he is hungry this year. Falling another few notches in ADP can only help strengthen my squads.

[Kent 228]

I've been a fan since '75 - I can promise you I'm not laughing and shaking it off. It pisses me off to high hell - makes me crazy.

 

But speaking of Dez - I do get a kick out of the Dez haters.. Since day 1, they've been itching, flat out dying, for this guy to fall into some kind of explosive mess - whether legal or some other kind. They are so desperate and blood thirsty for it they over exaggerate every little snippet of news, any hint and whisper of turmoil and their rabbit ears go up and they're running with pitch forks. Last year, the news of a "secret" Dez video had these idiots in a circle jerk, feeding frenzy - it was nauseating to watch... But, as is usually the case - they are left with a bag full of nothing and they retreat, awaiting the next charge.

 

Not to compare him physically or on the field, but in terms of being a pariah - Dez is the modern day Randy Moss. In 1998 20 teams passed on him (cinci twice) all bcoz of 'bad news' stigma. For years everybody kept waiting, pitch forks in hand - for Randy to screw up.. 18 years later and they're still waiting.

Sometimes bad news stigma is real. Ask Randy Gregory.

[CornKobb 48]

Good news, in a way. Have several drafts coming up this week/weekend. He is a target of mine, and now he won't have a chance to catch another highlight TD in the week 3 preseason game.

 

He has already proven that he can produce with Dak if Romo goes down....and he is hungry this year. Falling another few notches in ADP can only help strengthen my squads.

good point, everyone will be watching week 3 of preseason

[Cruzer 1,992]

Sometimes bad news stigma is real. Ask Randy Gregory.

And when the Randy Gregory thread pops up, it will be pertinent.

[sirensong 111]

 

There 2nd rounders of Randy Gregory, Gavin Escobar, and the Notre Dame kid who can't lift his leg because of drop foot is why they continue to be a 8-8 sideshow.

 

that's some interesting analysis. only 1 of those 3 was even on the team during the 8-8 seasons.

[sirensong 111]

Sometimes bad news stigma is real. Ask Randy Gregory.

 

 

by all accounts, gregory is a good kid with a pot problem.

[Kent 228]

 

 

by all accounts, gregory is a good kid with a pot problem.

He's a good kid who told the Raiders to pound sand pre draft workout. Great guy. All accounts are he's also a genius.

[Cruzer 1,992]

 

 

by all accounts, gregory is a good kid with a pot problem.

I'm sure you've heard too - apparently it's not a Dazed & Confused type addiction, rather one stemmed from his bipolarism... In any account - it's a problem this team knew about and decided to roll the dice - and it's busting.

[Cruzer 1,992]

He's a good kid who told the Raiders to pound sand pre draft workout. Great guy. All accounts are he's also a genius.

He fell to Round 2 and the 60th pick - 58 other teams he told similar things too?

[Cruzer 1,992]

There 2nd rounders of Randy Gregory, Gavin Escobar, and the Notre Dame kid who can't lift his leg because of drop foot is why they continue to be a 8-8 sideshow.

I could write a 1000 word essay on why this team has failed, sucked and been the laughing stock of the league for the past 20 years.. But yes - this is definitely one of the reasons.

[Kent 228]

He fell to Round 2 and the 60th pick - 58 other teams he told similar things too?

No. The Raiders invited him. One of the few teams to do so.

[Cruzer 1,992]

No. The Raiders invited him. One of the few teams to do so.

You should be glad - he did you a favor.

[CornKobb 48]

 

that's some interesting analysis. only 1 of those 3 was even on the team during the 8-8 seasons.

 

I said it is why they continue to post 8-8 seasons. You throw away Round 2 Draft picks in multiple years it does not help your team.

 

nice try.

[IGotWorms 3,300]

I've been a fan since '75 - I can promise you I'm not laughing and shaking it off. It pisses me off to high hell - makes me crazy.

 

But speaking of Dez - I do get a kick out of the Dez haters.. Since day 1, they've been itching, flat out dying, for this guy to fall into some kind of explosive mess - whether legal or some other kind. They are so desperate and blood thirsty for it they over exaggerate every little snippet of news, any hint and whisper of turmoil and their rabbit ears go up and they're running with pitch forks. Last year, the news of a "secret" Dez video had these idiots in a circle jerk, feeding frenzy - it was nauseating to watch... But, as is usually the case - they are left with a bag full of nothing and they retreat, awaiting the next charge.

 

Not to compare him physically or on the field, but in terms of being a pariah - Dez is the modern day Randy Moss. In 1998 20 teams passed on him (cinci twice) all bcoz of 'bad news' stigma. For years everybody kept waiting, pitch forks in hand - for Randy to screw up.. 18 years later and they're still waiting.

Randy Moss did screw up at the end of his Pats tenure

[Kent 228]

Randy Moss did screw up at the end of his Pats tenure

Straight cash homey.

[stonewall 647]

Straight cash homey.

 

Is it homey or homie.....or are both acceptable?

[Kent 228]

 

Is it homey or homie.....or are both acceptable?

It may depend on east coast/west coast.

[Mike Nice 40]

Hmmm dez talks trash to his own cbs saying they couldn't cover him. Now he is concussed, prob got laid out by one of the cb's

[fightingrousher 0]

Meh, he'll be fine.. The devastating concussion that's coming will be Sean Lee's. Once it gets here, and it will - this already half ass defense will be totally devoid of playmakers.

Yeah this is what I am concerned about. Such a great talent but those concussions are coming easier and easier

 

Also not so concerned about a concussion causing him to miss the last two weeks of preseason. I know concussions can become a big issue but its not like he needs the reps and has not had a history of concussions. Think he will be fine

[sirensong 111]

 

I said it is why they continue to post 8-8 seasons. You throw away Round 2 Draft picks in multiple years it does not help your team.

 

nice try.

 

 

you keep using that word. inigo montoya would have something to say about that.

[redsrback 30]

If you been a Cowboy fan a long time then you know Cowboys deserve criticism. 1 of my favorite players in the 70s was Harvey Martin, he and a few others from back then had problems. Biggest terd down the pike was Michael Irvin. As for Dez his growth was stunted because they wanted to make Whitten so gr8, and 1 thing Romo could do was throw to his buddy for 10 to 15 yards.

[sirensong 111]

As for Dez his growth was stunted because they wanted to make Whitten so gr8, and 1 thing Romo could do was throw to his buddy for 10 to 15 yards.

 

 

this makes no sense whatsoever. witten was an all-pro 9-year veteran when dez was drafted, and witten's numbers have decreased consistently since dez joined the team.

[redsrback 30]

 

 

this makes no sense whatsoever. witten was an all-pro 9-year veteran when dez was drafted, and witten's numbers have decreased consistently since dez joined the team.

Post stats all you want, you want another ? Dorsett is a better player then Emmitt Smith, Smith just had holes a semi could drive through. So how did throwing so many balls to Whitten work out for Dallas and there All-Pro.

[Cruzer 1,992]

Post stats all you want, you want another ? Dorsett is a better player then Emmitt Smith, Smith just had holes a semi could drive through.

I was a huge Tony D fan myself - but this is ridiculous.

 

* #33 wasn't exactly w/out his fair share of award winning lineman. Both Pat Donovan and Herb Scott were multiple All Pro selections and of course, Rayfield Wright was a HOF'er.

* Dorsett had no where near the stability and balance of Emmitt.

* Dorsett ran like a gazelle, but he was prone to the arm tackle - not #22.

* Dorsett was no where near the blocking back Emmitt was.

* Emmitt picked up gobs of 1st downs on check down passes.. Preston Pearson and Ron Springs were the pass catching rbs back then.

* Dorsett had a HUGE fumbling problem - usually inside the 10. Emmitt fumbled about as often as a solar eclipse.

[Cruzer 1,992]

But back to Dez - for the skills he has and even though he's either leading or near the top in most td catches each year - he's never had a 100 catch season... Too many times we will be near the half and Dez has had only 2 balls thrown his way - utter stupidity. He's been underused here far too often - he needs at least 10 looks a game, minimum.

[the newb 23]

As for Dez his growth was stunted because they wanted to make Whitten so gr8, and 1 thing Romo could do was throw to his buddy for 10 to 15 yards.

[sirensong 111]

Post stats all you want, you want another ? Dorsett is a better player then Emmitt Smith, Smith just had holes a semi could drive through. So how did throwing so many balls to Whitten work out for Dallas and there All-Pro.

 

 

you seem very confused. earlier you wrote that dez's progress was "stunted" because the cowboys wanted to "make witten gr8". but here's how his targets go:

 

2010 (injury shortened): 72

2011: 103

2012: 138

2013: 159

2014: 136

2015: (injury shortened): 72

 

so every year he was healthy, he picked up over 100 targets despite playing on a team with a first-ballot HOFer at TE. meanwhile, witten's targets declined every single year. so what are you babbling about?

[sirensong 111]

But back to Dez - for the skills he has and even though he's either leading or near the top in most td catches each year - he's never had a 100 catch season... Too many times we will be near the half and Dez has had only 2 balls thrown his way - utter stupidity. He's been underused here far too often - he needs at least 10 looks a game, minimum.

 

things started changing for dez in the baltimore game of 2012. prior to that, romo was using the system, and distributing to the open receiver. but in that game, murray got hurt just before halftime, so romo started feeding dez. dez responded, and romo learned that dez could win battles even if he was covered.

 

one of the big problems with the current system is that both outside guys (dez and twill) run the 9-route more often than any other tandem. they're running the go ~40% of the time, when they could be working posts and ins. so defenses can start running bail coverage and more or less prevent romo from feeding dez.

 

the thing is, i like dez right where he is in terms of receptions: ~85-90. more than that, and you start taking away the diversity of the offense by taking looks from beasley, witten, twill, and the backs. if you put too many eggs in the bryant basket, then you become much easier for opponents to scheme for.

[Cruzer 1,992]

the thing is, i like dez right where he is in terms of receptions: ~85-90. more than that, and you start taking away the diversity of the offense by taking looks from beasley, witten, twill, and the backs. if you put too many eggs in the bryant basket, then you become much easier for opponents to scheme for.

I personally don't care how many looks he gets as long as we are moving the chains... But the games where we get to the half and have more punts than throws to Dez - then I'm not happy.. Distribution is great, when it works. There's a reason why Dez makes 100 times more than Beasly. With his body and strength - he should see at least 6 quick slants a game.

[sirensong 111]

I personally don't care how many looks he gets as long as we are moving the chains... But the games where we get to the half and have more punts than throws to Dez - then I'm not happy.. Distribution is great, when it works. There's a reason why Dez makes 100 times more than Beasly. With his body and strength - he should see at least 6 quick slants a game.

 

i'm with you on that.

[Cruzer 1,992]

i'm with you on that.

Are you with me on T-Will? More like T-Won't... That effort on the deep ball was pathetic dog shiat, totally inexcusable! He's got to go and get it, tired of his half ass ways... His ass needs to go, better not resign him.