Djgb13 2,338 Posted June 23, 2018 Are they fair or do they lean a certain way? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrant-girl-never-separated/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted June 23, 2018 I consider the matter closed if its debunked on snopes. They use the same references anywhere else does. Its not just a room of people giving their personal opinion, they have links and sources. Any source that doesnt have extreme right wing bias though gets labeled fake news by the Trumpeteers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 23, 2018 They are a joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 As with everything since Trump, truth is suddenly relative. Theyve Actually interviewed some Trump supporters at his rallies who have literally been walked into saying well if it's good for Trump then it's true! But if it's not then it's fake news! That's fcking bizarre. As said above, Snopes and PolitiFact tend to go out and grab whatever for example Trump tweets or says and then either prove or disprove it. Truth isnt a matter of opinion. Or sure as hell shouldn't be. It was harder under Obama. Because he spoke with Nuance often times. Trump couldn't spell nuance. The only time facts should be even moderately subjective is when you're talking about something like Net versus gross job growth. Or Net versus gross immigration. But both sites tend to address that in their research afterward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,587 Posted June 23, 2018 I have not been to Snopes in years, I have no opinion on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 638 Posted June 23, 2018 I used to read it when it was stories about urban legends, random chain emails about weird stories, etc. But I never went to the political links. Like most things ehen it comes to politics, people like to pick and choose what they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 23, 2018 https://goo.gl/images/VmyXy8 Tantastic, be honest, you own the site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 23, 2018 They back up their fact checking with sources. Its not the end all be all, but it takes you where you need to go. So of course biased nuts hate them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted June 23, 2018 lol that anyone thinks this is even a legit question snopes was founded as an internet hoax website once it gained traction (eyeballs, credibility) it pivoted (similar to Vice) from a business with some integrity to a propaganda tool most recent example of Snopes propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toddler-cage-photo/ Does This Image Show a Toddler in a Cage Detained by ICE in 2018? A heart-rending photograph of a crying child in a cage has been widely shared, but it was part of a protest to call attention to immigration practices. However, as it turned out, the photograph was taken on 10 June 2018, but it did not show a child confined by immigration authorities to a cage. Rather, it was snapped during a protest staged in front of Dallas City Hall to call attention to the Trump administration’s practice of separating families and confining undocumented children. Initially they "ruled" this story was unproven. Then once the facts were known, that the child was part of a protest and not detained by ICE, they "ruled" it was "miscaptioned". Not "false" as they do with any story remotely connected to someone who suffers from wrong think, but "miscaptioned". Anyone who uses Snopes as a source should be tuned out for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted June 23, 2018 I consider the matter closed if its debunked on snopes. They use the same references anywhere else does. Its not just a room of people giving their personal opinion, they have links and sources. Any source that doesnt have extreme right wing bias though gets labeled fake news by the Trumpeteers. As with everything since Trump, truth is suddenly relative. Theyve Actually interviewed some Trump supporters at his rallies who have literally been walked into saying well if it's good for Trump then it's true! But if it's not then it's fake news! That's fcking bizarre. As said above, Snopes and PolitiFact tend to go out and grab whatever for example Trump tweets or says and then either prove or disprove it. Truth isnt a matter of opinion. Or sure as hell shouldn't be. It was harder under Obama. Because he spoke with Nuance often times. Trump couldn't spell nuance. The only time facts should be even moderately subjective is when you're talking about something like Net versus gross job growth. Or Net versus gross immigration. But both sites tend to address that in their research afterward. They back up their fact checking with sources. Its not the end all be all, but it takes you where you need to go. So of course biased nuts hate them. I think this should tell you all you need to know about snopes. The two most uninformed trolls on the site, plus tan who is a mixed bag (he did make some sensible comments in the crying illegal thread as he learned the facts) think Snopes is a legit reference source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 most recent example of Snopes propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toddler-cage-photo/ Initially they "ruled" this story was unproven. Then once the facts were known, that the child was part of a protest and not detained by ICE, they "ruled" it was "miscaptioned". Not "false" as they do with any story remotely connected to someone who suffers from wrong think, but "miscaptioned". Anyone who uses Snopes as a source should be tuned out for good. And make sure your irony meters are working properly for this one. If you're wondering where the above moron got any of this from? It's from Snopes themselves. Regarding a misleading trope that the what about crowd started circulating. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-dont-separate-mommy-protest-sign-real/ yes folks, the irony is thick here. Honestly, it's just getting tiresome. The latest moron to wander into the pile quoting that Alex Jones or Hannity gave him. And not having enough intellect to figure out the irony of what he just posted above. Believe Snopes don't believe Snopes. Trumps caught on over 3,000 lies. Do you think that's all fake news? You probably do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 The president signed the executive order days after he said that the only way to end the division of families was through congressional action because you cant do it through an executive order. But he changed his mind after a barrage of criticism from Democrats, activists, members of his own party and even his -------- Yep, this is the Bastion of truth that senator considers the end-all and be-all of truthiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 23, 2018 I think this should tell you all you need to know about snopes. The two most uninformed trolls on the site, plus tan who is a mixed bag (he did make some sensible comments in the crying illegal thread as he learned the facts) think Snopes is a legit reference source. You calling anyone else a troll or uninformed is laughable. A guy who posts zerohedge and Breitbart links and reddit links and follows Qanon should never be questioning what others call legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,074 Posted June 23, 2018 And make sure your irony meters are working properly for this one. If you're wondering where the above moron got any of this from? It's from Snopes themselves. Regarding a misleading trope that the what about crowd started circulating. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-dont-separate-mommy-protest-sign-real/ yes folks, the irony is thick here. Honestly, it's just getting tiresome. The latest moron to wander into the pile quoting ###### that Alex Jones or Hannity gave him. And not having enough intellect to figure out the irony of what he just posted above. Believe Snopes don't believe Snopes. Trumps caught on over 3,000 ###### lies. Do you think that's all fake news? You probably do. Of course it came from Snopes. That was his whole point. I'd ask if you actually read it but that would distract from your word salad posting like... The president signed the executive order days after he said that the only way to end the division of families was through congressional action because you cant do it through an executive order. But he changed his mind after a barrage of criticism from Democrats, activists, members of his own party and even his -------- Yep, this is the Bastion of truth that senator considers the end-all and be-all of truthiness. ... this. What does this have to do with Snopes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted June 23, 2018 And make sure your irony meters are working properly for this one. If you're wondering where the above moron got any of this from? It's from Snopes themselves. Regarding a misleading trope that the what about crowd started circulating. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-dont-separate-mommy-protest-sign-real/ yes folks, the irony is thick here. Honestly, it's just getting tiresome. The latest moron to wander into the pile quoting ###### that Alex Jones or Hannity gave him. And not having enough intellect to figure out the irony of what he just posted above. Believe Snopes don't believe Snopes. Trumps caught on over 3,000 ###### lies. Do you think that's all fake news? You probably do. I'd still drink a beer with you but you are dumber than my redneck friends who failed out of community college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted June 23, 2018 The president signed the executive order days after he said that the only way to end the division of families was through congressional action because you cant do it through an executive order. But he changed his mind after a barrage of criticism from Democrats, activists, members of his own party and even his -------- Yep, this is the Bastion of truth that senator considers the end-all and be-all of truthiness. Can his EO be overturned? By an obstructionist court? By the next president? The only way to change the law is through congress. The EO is a band aid that can be ripped away at any minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted June 23, 2018 I'd still drink a beer with you but you are dumber than my redneck friends who failed out of community college. Imagine the drunk stories. Im so down for a geek meet. I dont have to agree with someone to have a good time with them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 Can his EO be overturned? By an obstructionist court? By the next president? The only way to change the law is through congress. The EO is a band aid that can be ripped away at any minute. So we can't do it. Or you can do it. Or you can't do it. But he did do it. Sheesh, just the fact that you bend over backwards for every thing takes all of your credibility. Not that you had any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 lol that anyone thinks this is even a legit question snopes was founded as an internet hoax website once it gained traction (eyeballs, credibility) it pivoted (similar to Vice) from a business with some integrity to a propaganda tool most recent example of Snopes propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toddler-cage-photo/ Initially they "ruled" this story was unproven. Then once the facts were known, that the child was part of a protest and not detained by ICE, they "ruled" it was "miscaptioned". Not "false" as they do with any story remotely connected to someone who suffers from wrong think, but "miscaptioned". Anyone who uses Snopes as a source should be tuned out for good. The fact that the site itself goes out of his way to explain the difference between miscaptioned and flat-out false and you still don't get it? Yeah be really careful about Who you calling stupid , stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted June 23, 2018 Another pointless thread. Without reading a single reply I can already tell you the 'answer' to the topic: Lefties: Snopes is a reliable, impartial site Righties: Snopes is a left-wing propaganda site 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,525 Posted June 23, 2018 they use articles to back up what their opinions are, which are clearly left leaning one of their main sources of news is NYTimes, and Buzzfeed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,618 Posted June 23, 2018 Another pointless thread. Without reading a single reply I can already tell you the 'answer' to the topic: Lefties: Snopes is a reliable, impartial site Righties: Snopes is a left-wing propaganda site Gee, you mean the guys who only see Fox News Breitbart and Alex Jones as the only source of Truth on the internet because Donald Trump tells them it's so? Shocking!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 23, 2018 Another pointless thread. Without reading a single reply I can already tell you the 'answer' to the topic: Lefties: Snopes is a reliable, impartial site Righties: Snopes is a left-wing propaganda site Except lefties didnt really say just that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,525 Posted June 23, 2018 Snopes is the BESTEST!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 23, 2018 Snopes is the BESTEST!!!! AHh, quote manip to say something completely different than my post. Pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,525 Posted June 23, 2018 AHh, quote manip to say something completely different than my post. Pathetic not my fault you edited it to change it after I quoted you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 23, 2018 not my fault you edited it to change it after I quoted you Is there a point to being such a lying sack of crap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,525 Posted June 23, 2018 Is there a point to being such a lying sack of crap? yes we can all see you yelling at the computer in your basement right now so triggered 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted June 23, 2018 Is there a point to being such a lying sack of crap? Unhinged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,504 Posted June 23, 2018 I find them to be accurate and reliable. You can't use them here because they're under assault as biased though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 23, 2018 They are all right, in the realm of partial truth they skew center left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,813 Posted June 23, 2018 Snipes often makes Trump look bad therefore its biased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,504 Posted June 24, 2018 Are they fair or do they lean a certain way? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrant-girl-never-separated/ lol that anyone thinks this is even a legit question snopes was founded as an internet hoax website once it gained traction (eyeballs, credibility) it pivoted (similar to Vice) from a business with some integrity to a propaganda tool most recent example of Snopes propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toddler-cage-photo/ Initially they "ruled" this story was unproven. Then once the facts were known, that the child was part of a protest and not detained by ICE, they "ruled" it was "miscaptioned". Not "false" as they do with any story remotely connected to someone who suffers from wrong think, but "miscaptioned". Anyone who uses Snopes as a source should be tuned out for good. The research seems accurate. They tell us the pics are phony even though they don't label them as phony. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted June 24, 2018 yes we can all see you yelling at the computer in your basement right now so triggered Not triggered, yelling, nor do I have a basement. So in the end, youre just a liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted June 24, 2018 Not triggered, yelling, nor do I have a basement. So in the end, youre just a liar. So awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,525 Posted June 24, 2018 here you go Snopes - Mostly False, and them trying to spin it https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrant-girl-never-separated/ when it comes to Obama stuff its conveniently always labeled miscaptioned https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-dont-separate-mommy-protest-sign-real/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 24, 2018 Snipes often makes Trump look bad therefore its biased.Wesley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,431 Posted June 24, 2018 Yeah, there is no doubt it is a propaganda arm of the DNC. It's really not even debatable. It's so far biased that anyone that uses it as a source should themselves be suspect of lying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted June 24, 2018 The research seems accurate. They tell us the pics are phony even though they don't label them as phony. Their "ruling" is supposed to be related to the title of the "hoax". The title of this particular "hoax" was "poor brown kid was put in cage by ICE after being separated from his family". No reasonable person would call that a "miscaption". It is a flat out lie, or in Snopes terminology "false". (not sure if Voltaire is a retard like wiff and sho or if he is just uninformed. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say uninformed. This is what happens when people are too lazy to dig into something themselves and just take everything at face value) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites