drobeski 3,061 Posted February 23, 2018 Friend uses his vehicle for trips to customer facility 17 days, co-worker rides along with friend. Friend submits weekly his mileage and and .54 cents per mile is put in his paycheck pre tax. Both partys, friend and coworker are verbally told they'll get per diem. After job complete coworker gets check for 850 Not taxed for per diem. Friend says hey where is my 850, he is told by payroll lady that he doesn't get it since he submitted mileage, you dont get both and he made out better than coworker because mileage came out to more than the 50 bucks a day coworker got. Is my buddy getting focked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 23, 2018 He should join a union so they can fight for his rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 23, 2018 He should join a union so they can fight for his rights. ill let him know thanks for your help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 23, 2018 Anytime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,032 Posted February 23, 2018 He got fùcked good and proper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 23, 2018 He got fùcked good and proper.they're two separate things, correct ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted February 23, 2018 Sounds like it. How many miles a day is he driving and how many days was the job? If he is getting 54 cents a mile and his friend got 850 he'd have to drive 1600 miles not including gas. Do they pay his gas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,172 Posted February 23, 2018 Did the per diem cover more than mileage/travel? If so then yeah he got focked. Seems like your buddy should get mileage reimbursement for driving, and they both should get per diem for incidentals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted February 23, 2018 Is my buddy getting focked? Well, since he counts you as a friend, so I'd say yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 23, 2018 Sounds like it. How many miles a day is he driving and how many days was the job? If he is getting 54 cents a mile and his friend got 850 he'd have to drive 1600 miles not including gas. Do they pay his gas? 17 days, got 54 ish cents a mile. 120 mile round trip per day. Got 64.50 pretax in check for mileage per day. Non driver for 50 a day Driver got nothing or subtract the 50 from the 64.50 he got 14.50 for 120 mile trip and all his money taxed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted February 23, 2018 Well it was verbal? If he wasn't told mileage is a substitute for per diem, then he should still get it. Per diem is for food and housing, not for gas Just like I can't claim my food and housing expenditures from my job, because I get per diem, unless I want to pay tax on the per diem. I can, or could until this year, claim my miles driven. But since it's verbal and he was compensated for gas, who knows if he has a real case, like is it really worth it to pursue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted February 23, 2018 17 days, got 54 ish cents a mile. 120 mile round trip per day. Got 64.50 pretax in check for mileage per day. Non driver for 50 a day Driver got nothing or subtract the 50 from the 64.50 he got 14.50 for 120 mile trip and all his money taxed. The driver was using his own vehicle and paid for his own gas? If so he totally got focked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted February 23, 2018 Oh and he got taxed for his gas reimbursement? No no no. No fuckin way. That's the point of being paid per diem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 23, 2018 The driver was using his own vehicle and paid for his own gas? If so he totally got focked. that is correct, big boss on vacation this week so will need to address situation with him. He asked payroll lady if he was supposed to eat his tires and wash it down with his gas for his meals. He seemed pretty pissed of. Cow payroll lady has a history of trying to fock him over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,369 Posted February 23, 2018 That right there is a proper fock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 23, 2018 Well, since he counts you as a friend, so I'd say yes. Mike won this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 23, 2018 Getting paid for mileage in theory includes the depreciation and wear and tear, it should be more than the per diem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,950 Posted February 23, 2018 Yeah, that's pretty focked up. As noted, mileage is to cover gas plus wear and tear on the vehicle. Theoretically, you're breaking even if you're paid mileage. Not sure what the Per Diem is for. I assume meals/incidentals. So that's a separate purpose. If I were your buddy I'd tell them if that's the policy I'm never using my car for work again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted February 24, 2018 Porkbutt already asked a similar question. Leave the country or kill yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,911 Posted February 24, 2018 Owner of the vehicle has exclusive rights to any costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,911 Posted February 24, 2018 Why would a passenger incur any costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,542 Posted February 24, 2018 Why would a passenger incur any costs. Ass, Gas, or Cash... nobody rides for free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,911 Posted February 24, 2018 Ass, Gas, or Cash... nobody rides for free Doesn't work that way. Ass is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 24, 2018 Mileage is separate from per diem. The cow is focking your buddy over. There is a per diem rate for combined lodging and meal costs, and a per diem rate for meal costs alone. Anemployer may use either per diem method for reimbursing employee travel expenses. A self-employed personcan only use per diem for the meal costs. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-regs/perdiemfaq&a.prn.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites