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Should The Commissioner Have Nixed This Deal?

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#1 the lone star

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 01:46 AM

In my dynasty fantasy football league, someone made a trade for Julio Jones in 2015. Here's how the deal looked back then. We use PPR scoring, but TEs get a premium of 1.5 per catch. 

Team A Receives:
Allen Hurns (64 receptions, 1031 yards + 10 TD season)
First Round Pick (turned out to be Carson Wentz, but Hunter Henry was still on the board)
Second Round Pick (turned out to be Keanu Neal, but Deion Jones was also on the board)

Team B Receives:
Julio Jones (136 receptions, 1871 Yards, 9 TDs (8 Receiving TDs, 1 fumble return TD))

However, prior to the beginning of the season, Team A told many owners that this was his last year. Team A traded rookie Todd Gurley to the commish for Reuben Randle (coming off a 71 catch, 3 TD, 900+ yard season) and a First Round Pick (Commish finished in the top 6 of the league that year, so it was at best the 11th overall pick in the draft). At a point prior to this deal processing, Team A had told Team B that this would be Team A's last year in the league. 

Team A told Team B that if Team B beat him in their matchup, then he would trade Julio to Team B. Team B did in fact win, and this win eliminated Team A from playoff contention. The commish likely did not know of this. However, Team B was unsure if Team A was serious, and nothing was offered to cement such a statement. Team A had said things the previous year that the previous year would be his last, but it wasn't. Team B still offered a deal to Team A after he won, which was rejected by Team A. TBH, Team A and Team B had been in trade talks for Julio for quite a while. Team B was trying to deal away Danny Amendola instead of Allen Hurns, and was trying to get Greg Hardy included in the deal. Obviously, neither of these happened. Team B was not trying to include both a first and second round either. Team B's initial offers were rejected by Team A, until Team A finally offered the deal above. The final deal actually involved negotiating and bargaining.

However, prior to the deal, Team A told the commissioner's brother (Team C) that Team A was going to trade Julio to Team B to make the competition tougher for Team C. The commish did know about this, but Team B did not. 

There was no agreement between Team A and Team B that if Team B won, then he'd split his earnings with Team A. There was no collusion. 

The commissioner has to process all trades though to make them final. Prior to processing, the commissioner asked for the remainder of Team B's dues (dues are $120, so the league runs on a two-installment plan, where you pay the first $60 prior to the year, and then the final $60 at a date tba later). Team B paid this remainder at this time and not later because he and Team A had just reached a deal for Julio. Team B also thought that if he didn't pay dues at this time, then the deal for Julio definitely would not go through.

Finally, the league does not vote on trades. In fact, I'm not even sure if the rules expressly allow for the commish to nix a deal. The commissioner has never nixed a deal before (if he has, then it's not well known at all). However, he still nixed this one, which was a first in the league.

Since Team A is leaving, the commissioner was concerned with recruiting a new owner. He thought that a team with Julio would be more attractive than a team with Hurns, Wentz, and Neal.

Considering all of this, should the commissioner have nixed the deal that Team B made for Julio Jones? Why or Why not?

 



#2 the lone star

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 04:47 PM

3-0 in favor of No. Thanks!



#3 the lone star

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 04:49 PM

So back in 2015, do you think this trade was unbalanced? Because it was along the lines of many of the other trades made in the league at that time.



#4 the lone star

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 09:34 PM

I will say this, I am expecting some decent things from Hurns this year.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:04 AM

TL DR 

 

no


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#6 Squintz82

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:48 PM

Didn't read it and voted no. If you have to ask, then generally it's a no.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 03:24 PM

I can't read that many words. I'll say no. These are always a No.

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:51 AM

Team D says league should collect all dues before the season and trades made should be finalized afterwards. But not sure if A will go along with this, depending on if B gets fair value, then C your not sure how he is benefitting, E, F, G, H,I, J.K.anf L well they should get involved to.



#9 TheErosion

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 05:51 AM

Seems like a ###### move especially considering the Commish got Gurley on a similar trade.
Who Dat! Well, pretty much everyone this year...

#10 wild_and_crazy_guy

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:44 PM

I voted no.  Based on your description, there was collusion back in 2015, when Team A promised to trade Team B J.Jones if Team B won.  This is 2018.   If Team A and Team B are both making trades that (they believe) are benefiting their own teams, then there is no collusion in 2018.



#11 the lone star

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:39 PM

I voted no.  Based on your description, there was collusion back in 2015, when Team A promised to trade Team B J.Jones if Team B won.  This is 2018.   If Team A and Team B are both making trades that (they believe) are benefiting their own teams, then there is no collusion in 2018.

 

I was asking if it should have been nixed in 2015.

 

It's also hard to prove collusion. Like sure, stuff was said, but does that actually make it true? What if someone changed their mind? Looks like bargaining and consideration occurred too. And hey, what if the leaving owner changed his mind and decided to come back.

 

Regardless, dues were paid and no replacements had been made. Personally, when stuff like that happens, I think you should let the owners run their teams how they want.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:40 PM

Team D says league should collect all dues before the season and trades made should be finalized afterwards. But not sure if A will go along with this, depending on if B gets fair value, then C your not sure how he is benefitting, E, F, G, H,I, J.K.anf L well they should get involved to.

 

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#13 the lone star

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:40 PM

I can't read that many words. I'll say no. These are always a No.

 

Why are they always a no?



#14 the lone star

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:41 PM

Didn't read it and voted no. If you have to ask, then generally it's a no.

 

Why is that? Could you please explain your rationale?



#15 the lone star

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:41 PM

TL DR 

 

no

 

So why do you default to no?



#16 Donkey

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 05:37 AM

So is A, B or C the lucky pierre?



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 10:42 AM

 
Why are they always a no?


You are new here. These are always a no around here. Unless your real estate agent staged a house showing to steal your cheat sheet... that's the only exception.