how do you rank the rookie RB for PPR

[Super Cubs 132]

How do you rank the rookie RB for PPR?

 

I have not really kept up with the college game so I'm kind of clueless.

[ralphster 274]

ppr will skew towards mccaferrey as the top rb, after that its personal preference. lots of dynasty guys are drafting now, so that could explain no responses

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Leonard Fournette is my last ranked rb (seeing if any league mates take the bait...)

[Ray_T 587]

If Gio is still on the mend when camp starts, I'd Rank Mixon High too. His pass catching skills are very good and Hills are not.

 

so even if he does not become the starter in Cinci (and I think he might) the situation dictates that he will likely at least put up draftable numbers.

[giraldi02 470]

Leonard Fournette is my last ranked rb (seeing if any league mates take the bait...)

I can easily see people having him ranked 4th among the top 4 guys. It really comes down to preference with those guys imho

[murf74 461]

LF will probably be fine in a PPR. I don't see them taking him off the field all that much.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566]

Mccaffrey

Mixon

Cook

Fournette

[weepaws 2,452]

If Bernard is limited early on I would rank it this way

 

Mixon

Mccaffery, but if Benard is able to play than I would move Mccaffery into the first slot. He's simply in the best postion of all the rookies.

Fournette

M Mack with the colts

Hunt

Cook

Perine

Kamari, he would be higher if Ingram wasn't on the team.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

How do you rank the rookie RB for PPR?

 

I have not really kept up with the college game so I'm kind of clueless.

 

I'd put Fournette #1 because he's the only guy that's going to be on the field all the time. McCaffery (Stewart), Cook (L. Murray), and Mixon (RB du jour), will all be part-time players. Heading into each week, I don't want to "hope" my guy gets 4 or 5 receptions to make him start-worthy. I'll take Fournette over all of them because I believe he's getting 25 touches per week. After him, I'd say it's really all a crap shoot.

[weepaws 2,452]

I don't disagree about Fournettt getting a lot of touches in the run game, but I think they will use Yeldon in the passing game. M

 

That's why I ranked him third.

 

Plus how much production will he be able to produce behind the Jags Oline.

 

Actually think that M Mack could pass him up if Gore is finally ready to slow down.

[polecatt 399]

In PPR dynasty, It would be like this Fournette, McCaffrey, Mixon, D. Cook, and after that a toss up to me

 

I just believe Fournette is the best RB in this class by a good margin. PPR makes it closer but I expect he will develop into a decent receiver and his rushing numbers should be the best and most consistent.

 

McCaffrey is going to catch a lot of passes I expect. He could be RB/WR guy. Not sure how big his rushing numbers will be but they could be okay. His TDs could be low, or high.

 

I expect Mixon to be a very good fantasy RB but I don't know if he will be as good as Fournette. Could be better but bigger risk too.

 

I think Dalvin Cook will eventually win the job in Minnesota and has the potential to be a solid RB1 in a PPR format. That's far from a given though. He could end up a flex option or even struggle to get touches in a crowded back field.

 

After these guys there are several RBs that could end up being valuable. It's going to come down much more to getting touches and keeping them. They may be a year or more away. Some will get their shot and some won't. It's just too close to tell right now.

[weepaws 2,452]

Mccaffery is very interesting to me , I think he's on a team that really needed a player that can be used in a number of ways.

 

He just might be in the best postion to me in store for a very good season.

 

Fournette should surly be the Jags Rb1. And should lead the team in rushing att , but I see him being limited in the passing game, and I can see Yeldon being used in that roll

 

Mixon is the biggest reward and also risk, I think he's the best over all player of the three.

 

M Mack is another rookie Rb that could put up good ff numbers this season. I think his talent level is better than Turbins and he's a good Rb in space. And Gore can't last forever, can he ?

[redsrback 30]

Year after year Cam leaves you frustrated with him wanting to run the ball in.

[weepaws 2,452]

Yeah that's very true, Newton is the redzone Rb.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

I don't disagree about Fournettt getting a lot of touches in the run game, but I think they will use Yeldon in the passing game. M

 

That's why I ranked him third.

 

Plus how much production will he be able to produce behind the Jags Oline.

 

Actually think that M Mack could pass him up if Gore is finally ready to slow down.

 

Possibly. I've never been a Yeldon guy and always thought he was mediocre at his best. I think he becomes a 5-7 touch (ceiling), per game guy. If the RB's get about 30 touches per game (combined), I can see Fournette getting about 20 plus. I think the rest of the pack are looking at 15 on the high side... this year.

 

Every year a team tries to replace Gore and every year Gore puts the smack down on a possible change. At this point, someone will actually have to replace Gore before I project someone doing it.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

Yeah that's very true, Newton is the redzone Rb.

 

Last year, Newton had 11 rush attempts inside the 10 yard line and had 5 TD's... Stewart had 9 TD's on 22 carries. Lev Bell had 14 carries. Elliott had 24. David Johnson had 35. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't look like Newton's red zone touches are limiting Stewart's potential.

[Maulers1973 117]

Mixon is my #1 for this rookie class.

 

#2 McCaffery

 

#3 Hunt

 

#4 Fournette

 

#5 Mack

 

#6 Perine

 

#7 Cook

 

I'm not sure about the Packers backs.

[weepaws 2,452]

First thing this is about ppr, and last season Yeldon had 68 targets in the passing game so I think he will resume That postion again.

 

Fournette will get the majority of the rushes , but I think he will indeed be limited in the passing game.

 

Last season Newton had a head injury and I'm sure that's the reason his rushing tds went down and Stewart's went up.

 

Stewart's last 45 games hes played in he has scored 18 rushing tds, Newton in the same number of games has scored 20 rushing tds.

 

If we see the old Newton he might just again steal those rushing tds.

 

I think that M Mack indeed has the ability and talent to over take him this season as the year moves on.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

First thing this is about ppr, and last season Yeldon had 68 targets in the passing game so I think he will resume That postion again.

 

Fournette will get the majority of the rushes , but I think he will indeed be limited in the passing game.

 

Last season Newton had a head injury and I'm sure that's the reason his rushing tds went down and Stewart's went up.

 

Stewart's last 45 games hes played in he has scored 18 rushing tds, Newton in the same number of games has scored 20 rushing tds.

 

If we see the old Newton he might just again steal those rushing tds.

 

I think that M Mack indeed has the ability and talent to over take him this season as the year moves on.

 

Cam Newton rush attempts inside the 10...

2011 - 23

2012 - 21

2013 - 13

2014 - 11

2015 - 19

2016 - 11

 

Others...

2011 - Stewart - 11 / Williams - 8

2012 - Williams - 12 / Tolbert - 9

2013 - Williams - 17 / Tolbert - 14

2014 - Stewart - 8 / Tolbert - 7

2015 - Stewart - 21

2016 - Stewart - 22

 

To me, it doesn't look like Newton's rushing TD's are taking away from the RB's... he's taking them away from WR's as he's running them in, not throwing. Pretty much the RB's are getting 20+ carries inside the 10. That's a pretty good number. There are guys like Johnson, Lynch, and probably a few others who get a million, but 20 seems to be a fairly good number across the board. For further reference, LeSean McCoy who was a top 5 RB for a number of years, exceeded 25 only once in his career.

 

A couple of other tidbits... RB's rushing inside the 10 seems to be on a decline across the league. In 2011 and 2012, there were 14 RB's who had at least 25 carries inside the opponent 10, since then, a grand total of 12 accomplished that feat. Also, only 7 (since 2011), have had at least 30 carries. There's a few more reason's why I don't think Newton is vulturing TD's from RB's, but actually WR's.

[weepaws 2,452]

I can what your saying about rush att inside the ten, but Newton has 20 rushing tds in his last 45 games.

 

And he's still a threat and will be if healthy again this season.

 

And his 20 rushing tds still put number Stewart 18 no matter how many rushing att either one of them have had inside the ten.

 

So inside the ten yard line Newton rushes the ball about 43% of the time, that seems like a lot to me.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

I can what your saying about rush att inside the ten, but Newton has 20 rushing tds in his last 45 games.

 

And he's still a threat and will be if healthy again this season.

 

And his 20 rushing tds still put number Stewart 18 no matter how many rushing att either one of them have had inside the ten.

 

So inside the ten yard line Newton rushes the ball about 43% of the time, that seems like a lot to me.

 

Stewart's lack of TD's are a result of him sucking, not Newton stealing. Plus, Newton's success rate most likely has to do with him running from designed passes, not designed runs. Outside of those 1 yard reach over's that every QB gets about 2 or 3 of per year.

[weepaws 2,452]

Those one yard reach over's still count as an att and still scores six points in ff.

[redsrback 30]

Your weak Tbay comparing a QB to a RB and prove my point.

[redsrback 30]

My point is how good you think McCaffery is going to be when u have a running QB, with Stewart, and a passing game that has Olsen, Benjamin, and fuchness. Whats the upside, a half azz RB like a Deanglo Williams if Stewart goes down? Maybe best scenario Benjamin goes down and you get 40 receiving yds and 20 yds rushing a game, with 5 overall TDs stolen from Olsen, Stewart, and Cam from the team of last year.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

Those one yard reach over's still count as an att and still scores six points in ff.

 

I know, but almost every QB gets them. If Newton gets one or two more than someone else, it's no big deal to me. Besides, you can never predict how many you'll get in a year.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

Your weak Tbay comparing a QB to a RB and prove my point.

I wasn't comparing a QB to a RB, so I guess I didn't prove your point... or I proved it wrong. In either case, I was only responding to Weepaws remarks that Newton steals TD's from Stewart... to which, my point was that he didn't because Stewart was still getting touches that every other RB in the league is getting. Last year Andy Dalton had 4 rushing TD's. I don't recall anyone calling him a Red Zone RB.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

My point is how good you think McCaffery is going to be when u have a running QB, with Stewart, and a passing game that has Olsen, Benjamin, and fuchness. Whats the upside, a half azz RB like a Deanglo Williams if Stewart goes down? Maybe best scenario Benjamin goes down and you get 40 receiving yds and 20 yds rushing a game, with 5 overall TDs stolen from Olsen, Stewart, and Cam from the team of last year.

 

To your point, Newton isn't a factor at all... Stewart is the only factor. McCaffery will get touches and red zone opportunities, but it will be Stewart cutting into his production, not Newton. Don't know what DeAngelo Williams has to do with anything if Stewart goes down. Last I knew he was still unsigned. McCaffery and Stewart will probably be as unpredictable as Cook and Murry, Mixon and Bernard (or Hill). In none of those 3 situations is the QB an issue.

[redsrback 30]

You do realise that Deangelo and Stewart played with Cam and both were below average players? And to compare Newton to Daltons career for rushing attempts means I'm going to have to stop giving you the respect of responding.

[weepaws 2,452]

TB thanks for the chat.

[Ghost to the Post 2]

Pumphrey ROY.

[TBayXXXVII 2,107]

You do realise that Deangelo and Stewart played with Cam and both were below average players? And to compare Newton to Daltons career for rushing attempts means I'm going to have to stop giving you the respect of responding.

 

Since you keep missing the point, that's probably best.

[Ray_T 587]

 

Cam Newton rush attempts inside the 10...

2011 - 23

2012 - 21

2013 - 13

2014 - 11

2015 - 19

2016 - 11

 

Others...

2011 - Stewart - 11 / Williams - 8

2012 - Williams - 12 / Tolbert - 9

2013 - Williams - 17 / Tolbert - 14

2014 - Stewart - 8 / Tolbert - 7

2015 - Stewart - 21

2016 - Stewart - 22

 

To me, it doesn't look like Newton's rushing TD's are taking away from the RB's... he's taking them away from WR's as he's running them in, not throwing. Pretty much the RB's are getting 20+ carries inside the 10. That's a pretty good number. There are guys like Johnson, Lynch, and probably a few others who get a million, but 20 seems to be a fairly good number across the board. For further reference, LeSean McCoy who was a top 5 RB for a number of years, exceeded 25 only once in his career.

 

A couple of other tidbits... RB's rushing inside the 10 seems to be on a decline across the league. In 2011 and 2012, there were 14 RB's who had at least 25 carries inside the opponent 10, since then, a grand total of 12 accomplished that feat. Also, only 7 (since 2011), have had at least 30 carries. There's a few more reason's why I don't think Newton is vulturing TD's from RB's, but actually WR's.

Nice post.

 

and I do think that the Coaching staff will want Newton to run less as he gets on in age.

 

I really dont think the presence of Newton will affect the RB numbers in any significant way. There are a handful of designed QB run plays, but most of his damage running the ball come on passing plays, so the poaching comes from the WRs. No doubt about that.

 

I'm pretty sure the end result might be as high as 1 carry per game poached from the RB, but the high effectiveness when he does it means more first downs (and another set of downs where the RB can run on first or second down)

 

My belief is the two will largely offset each other. Personally I'd bet that the end result is that the bigger pie (in terms of more offensive plays) is good for everyone in the offense.