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#121 tubby_mcgee

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:35 AM

How common are victims of violent crimes of any kind? Or had relatives killed/maimed/injured from someone as a result of violent crime?

 

If you were to poll those people, what percent of them,  if they could would like to have had a gun to defend themselves or their loved one, or had someone else with gun defend them or their loved one?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:37 AM

How common are victims of any kind? 


These days? About as common as those stupid blouses with holes in the sleeves.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:39 AM

These days? About as common as those stupid blouses with holes in the sleeves.

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 07:42 AM

 
I edited while you were in the process of commenting....


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#125 Herbivore

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:05 AM

Now eliminate blacks from both of those numbers and see where they stand. Somewhere between 4.95m NRA members to 5k Kardashian followers. ;)

 
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random point...its a little silly when people try to make gun regulation counter arguments based on Chicago.  Its one small area that is surrounded by areas that don't have the same regulation..of course guns from the outlying area are going to make it into the city.  

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:12 AM

Well that settles it. A two person study.

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Real world experience > theory

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:14 AM

How many bad guys have you shot?

Most LEO's never shoot any bad guys over the course of their careers. I suppose they shouldn't have guns either. :dunno:

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:17 AM

So you've never shot those guns either by accident or on purpose? Why don't you just buy a fuking paperweight?

I guess that's one way to save on ammo.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:17 AM

Most LEO's never shoot any bad guys over the course of their careers. I suppose they shouldn't have guns either. :dunno:


That's true.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:18 AM

:D

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:19 AM

Real world experience > theory

hth

 2 person example...not statistically valid.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:46 AM

 2 person example...not statistically valid.
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Statistically invalid like the .0001 percent of guns in America that are used in homicides every year?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:51 AM

That's true.

It's mostly capricorns and Geminis.

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#134 Baker Boy

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:26 AM

There are over 75 million good guys with guns in this country. The question should be how many bad guys with guns are there in the USA. As ususual these discussions start with gun control and not public safety because public safety is not the agenda. The agenda is only gun control.

There are 300 million guns in this country, how many are used in a crime?

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:00 AM

Weird, this thread gave me 17 cases of Deja Vu, I'm sure you'll work it out in this one though.

 

Good luck fellas.

 

Suicide, Alaska, Chicago!!

 

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#136 tubby_mcgee

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:06 AM

Here's an interesting stat: Guns are legal.

 

How many links, points and counterpoints do you anti-gun folks think you're gonna have to make to change that? 

 

Summary:  Your whining and crying little fawking babies is getting you no where. But if you're okay with that....hey...keep right on arguing. ;)



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:12 AM

Here's an interesting stat: Guns are legal.

 

How many links, points and counterpoints do you anti-gun folks think you're gonna have to make to change that? 

 

Summary:  Your whining and crying little fawking babies is getting you no where. But if you're okay with that....hey...keep right on arguing. ;)

 

That's not a stat or a summary.   :dunno:


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#138 penultimatestraw

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:24 AM

Real world experience > theory

hth

The stats are based on actual deaths, not theoretical ones. :doh:



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:03 AM

The stats are based on actual deaths, not theoretical ones. :doh:

And it is your theory that access to guns is the cause of those deaths. :doh:

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:31 AM



Weird, this thread gave me 17 cases of Deja Vu, I'm sure you'll work it out in this one though.

 

Good luck fellas.

 

Suicide, Alaska, Chicago!!

 

:D

I know right?!

 

penny:  How common are good guys with guns?

me and others:  [examples of why this is a dumb question]

penny:  Gun deaths!

us:  sigh...

 

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#141 Mike Honcho

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:38 AM

When we were kids playing Cowboys and Indians, I would say it was about 50/50.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:34 PM

When we were kids playing Cowboys and Indians, I would say it was about 50/50.

 

only a beta loser would let the Indians win

 

Guns >>>>> Bows


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:47 PM

Weird, this thread gave me 17 cases of Deja Vu, I'm sure you'll work it out in this one though.
 
Good luck fellas.
 
Suicide, Alaska, Chicago!!
 
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:53 AM



In an average year during 1996–1998, 2.46 million U.S. adults used a gun for self-defense. This estimate, based on an enormous sample of 12,870 cases (unweighted) in a nationally representative sample
http://dailycaller.c...ver-publicized/

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:12 PM

In an average year during 1996–1998, 2.46 million U.S. adults used a gun for self-defense. This estimate, based on an enormous sample of 12,870 cases (unweighted) in a nationally representative sample
http://dailycaller.c...ver-publicized/

Funny how there is no link to the actual data...but it implies a little under 1% of the adult population uses guns this way each year. I know there are only like four of us here, but any non-LEOs have a story to share?

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:22 PM

Funny how there is no link to the actual data...but it implies a little under 1% of the adult population uses guns this way each year. I know there are only like four of us here, but any non-LEOs have a story to share?


I love the time frame too. 2 years worth that was 20 plus years ago. Seems relevant.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:24 PM

How many NRA members are there?
Probably all good guys.

Thats A lot.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:24 PM

I love the time frame too. 2 years worth that was 20 plus years ago. Seems relevant.

 

Yeah, for some reason the government doesn't want to do research in to whether guns are used for good and to what extent.  But it's the gun owners fault that that research isn't being done.  :lol:


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:27 PM

 
Yeah, for some reason the government doesn't want to do research in to whether guns are used for good and to what extent.  But it's the gun owners fault that that research isn't being done.  :lol:


Psst... When we don't go one day without a mass shooting most of us don't need a research paper to tell us there is a problem. HTH.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:47 PM

Psst... When we don't go one day without a mass shooting most of us don't need a research paper to tell us there is a problem. HTH.

 

We don't go one day without a mass shooting?   How many days do we go without a good guy using a gun in a beneficial manner?  Based upon that study, much less than one day.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:48 PM

Psst... When we don't go one day without a mass shooting most of us don't need a research paper to tell us there is a problem. HTH.

Of course there is a problem only you think the gun and the NRA are responsible not the murder. Getting rid of the guns from law abiding citizens is not going to stop the violence!

How screwed up are you thinking there is a mass shooting every day?

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:48 PM

 
We don't go one day without a mass shooting?   How many days do we go without a good guy using a gun in a beneficial manner?  Based upon that study, much less than one day.


Well let's see. Are you concerned about a guy with a gun protecting himself against an attack or someone coming into your mall and mowing people down? There's your answer.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:49 PM

Well let's see. Are you concerned about a guy with a gun protecting himself against an attack or someone coming into your mall and mowing people down? There's your answer.

 

WAT?????

 

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#154 Baker Boy

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:52 PM

Well let's see. Are you concerned about a guy with a gun protecting himself against an attack or someone coming into your mall and mowing people down? There's your answer.


Take away his gun and he will bring a bomb.

Now what do you do? Who do you blame?

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:53 PM

 
WAT?????
 
:lol:


The point is who gives a crap how many people are protecting themselves in their home or against someone that's attacking them when they don't stop mass shootings and we have one of them everyday.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:54 PM

Take away his gun and he will bring a bomb.

Now what do you do? Who do you blame?


You make him make a bomb. You make him go get all the ingredients, the materials, leave trails.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:56 PM

The point is who gives a crap how many people are protecting themselves in their home or against someone that's attacking them when they don't stop mass shootings and we have one of them everyday.

 

Are you still staying we have a mass shooting every day?  Can you provide some evidence to back this statement up please. 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:02 PM

 
Are you still staying we have a mass shooting every day?  Can you provide some evidence to back this statement up please. 


https://www.theguard...gs-gun-violence

9 of every 10.... Let's not split the atom here. Close enough.
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:06 PM

https://www.theguard...gs-gun-violence

9 of every 10.... Let's not split the atom here. Close enough.

 

That isn't one every day.  It's not even 9 out of 10 days.  You might have a point if you were talking about AVERAGE but that's not what you said.  it's hard to take you seriously man.  And, based upon the stats in the report about good guys, a hell of a lot more lives are saved from good guys having guns than bad guys.  IOW, we're better off with good guys having guns.  Sorry those FACTS, from the CDC of all places, don't fit with your preconceived world view.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:15 PM

 
That isn't one every day.  It's not even 9 out of 10 days.  You might have a point if you were talking about AVERAGE but that's not what you said.  it's hard to take you seriously man.  And, based upon the stats in the report about good guys, a hell of a lot more lives are saved from good guys having guns than bad guys.  IOW, we're better off with good guys having guns.  Sorry those FACTS, from the CDC of all places, don't fit with your preconceived world view.


Hahahaha.... 9 out of 10 days is your best argument because it's not everyday. You're pathetic.

What are you talking about? They will save themselves. They don't stop mass shootings. We have been over this.
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