**Round Ten-Twelve Commentary**

[RicemanX 20]

You actually made me panic a bit. For a second I thought I forgot that Nicks was on the Panthers.

[remote controller 133]

Ertz was my fallback after missing Bennett. I believe he will make a big move up the rankings this year.

[remote controller 133]

You actually made me panic a bit. For a second I thought I forgot that Nicks was on the Panthers.

I'm missing something here??? hmmmm

[remote controller 133]

1 hour so far, and Ray does live on the east Coast. I certainly don't want to just let the rest of the afternoon get away. Two hours ....right?

[robb 71]

Robb...I am NOT happy with you right now.

Here is hoping Lynch really does retire!!

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

Nice pick ray. I debated on Wayne and boldin last pick. Ultimately felt Wayne had a chance to be lucks top target while boldin does not with kaepernick.

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

Give me a minute to decide between two players

[remote controller 133]

Alex Smtih was the sneaky #11 to 15 Qb last year. That's nothing like what Dalton did but it still makes me feel good about him as my #2 Qb. I was hoping to land Eli in what I also feel will be a bounce back year.

[remote controller 133]

Thanks Ray........just didn't want you out on the yacht for the weekend. :sheepishgrin:

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

Maybe cooks can drop the average age of My WR group below 30... but probably not.

[RLLD 3,455]

Nice pick ray. I debated on Wayne and boldin last pick. Ultimately felt Wayne had a chance to be lucks top target while boldin does not with kaepernick.

 

Agree completely, Boldin is more likely to have a handful of decent games, and disappear for others depending on injuries etc, he is still a great target and fierce player, but on a team loaded with talent.

[remote controller 133]

Love the Clay pick Fumble. His second year after a nice start last year, in a system that like TE's, and a Coach who will use them.

[Fumbleweed 422]

Bennett and Clay are solid tight ends. Not world-beaters by any means, but good enough. (I hope)

[RicemanX 20]

big fan of Charles Clay. Would have picked him if McFadden wasn't on the board. The dude failed me in the last 2 games of the playoffs last season, but can't hate too hard because he got me to the playoffs.

[remote controller 133]

Bennett, Ertz, and clay........missed all three of them. I had them targeted in that order in three consecutive rounds. Crap!

[Matts Eagles 25]

Headed to go do a 10K Father's day run here in Korea.....Miss my 5 kiddos. get to go home in 39 days......I sent my next pick to WW.

[JScott 20]

Heading out tonight and instructing (Tender/Tanker shuttle operations) most of the day tomorrow. I'll keep an eye on the progress and I'll send a list if necessary.

[robb 71]

I am around, maybe limited. Will send a list to Fumble if it gets close and I won't be around.

[robb 71]

I am around, maybe limited. Will send a list to Fumble if it gets close and I won't be around.

[RicemanX 20]

Will be out all day Sunday for Father's day events, but will be around tomorrow if it gets to my spot.

[RicemanX 20]

DAMNIT! I was sure Ebron was going to be there at the end of round 12. Big fan of him this year, could steal Pettigrew's starting spot quickly.

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

figured as good a time as any to handcuff my top pick.

[RicemanX 20]

Not drafting a TE at 11.01 was possibly the biggest mistake I've made in this draft so far. I had about 6 TEs on my draft list that I liked, and I ASSUMED that one of them was going to be there for me at 12.12. But NOPE. NO GO. Martellus Bennett, Zach Ertz, Heath Miller, Clay, Green, Ebron. All gone.

[remote controller 133]

Almost out of candidates for my #2 TE. Bennett was my 8.......sniped, I actually had Ertz 13th until I landed Foles then started targeting him......sniped, I had Clay 11th.......sniped, I had simply decide to grab Laderius Green late since I figured he'd slide by (great potential stud if not for one thing still)..........sniped, so Walker is all I have left in my starters range at 12th. 60 catches for 600 yards and 6 td's last year. Wisenhunt likens his skill set to a TE he is very used to and will use him enough to hold serve with those figures. Big red zone target with dependable hands.

[remote controller 133]

Dwayne Allen is a very intriguing pick for a 2 TE. He could really shine. I had him as a fallback guy like Laderius Green. I figured he would slide by unnoticed and be available at will since he only played one game last year and has competition. He has some major upside in my opinion.

[remote controller 133]

Not drafting a TE at 11.01 was possibly the biggest mistake I've made in this draft so far. I had about 6 TEs on my draft list that I liked, and I ASSUMED that one of them was going to be there for me at 12.12. But NOPE. NO GO. Martellus Bennett, Zach Ertz, Heath Miller, Clay, Green, Ebron. All gone.

I love Heath, but he has had rough fantasy TE luck. He is an incrdedible talent, but the line play has made him have to stay in and block for 3/4th of his carreer. He is definitely one of those guys whose success needs to be measured by worth to the Steelers and not to a fanasty team.

[shovelheadt 60]

It's painfully obvious that most of the guys in this draft all think alike. I see no clear cut favorite out of all of the rosters.

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

i see a few teams that i would not be comfortable with but I agree, no clear cut favorite.

 

i'd be lying if i said the associated no hassle league did not impact my drafting, especially late. In a normal league, there are some guys I might take shots on knowing i can dump them for a hot waiver pickup but having a set roster for the best ball format lends me to taking some safer picks. CJ Anderson for example. I normally don't handcuff but without being able to play the wire, what would happen if my top pick Montee Ball went down week 1? of course there is situation to it. If i had drafted 4 RB's in the first 6 rounds, I might not concern myself with taking a handcuff. With 4 starting guys, Id still be alright if 1 went down.

 

also in regular leagues I sometimes like to grab other owners "handcuffs" if I believe that guy might be poised to take over. not really worth doing here as it could easily be a wasted pick.

[remote controller 133]

I never consider the no hassle aspect, and my record proves it!!

[Vikings4ever 496]

With the No Hassle league, I do tend to tend to be willing to spend more picks on high reward, inconsistent picks. My starting RBs are fairly steady, but QB and WRs, not so much. I'll take a 3-5 point week from my starter and hope another player goes off if I can get 20-25 points out of him the next week.

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

another aspect of the no hassle is bye weeks. in normal leagues, some people like to stack their byes and be "full strength" the rest of the weeks. As 1 Loss isn't going to kill you. But with a cumulative points format, taking a bunch of zeros for a week would put you far enough behind that you won't come back.

[remote controller 133]

Drafting for the No Hassle league really takes away from the intent of the draft. I seriously draft like I would in any mock then realize I probably could have even done better if people weren't hawking points for the league.

[ICEMAN 38]

i see a few teams that i would not be comfortable with but I agree, no clear cut favorite.

 

 

I heard that!

 

ICEMAN

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

Drafting for the No Hassle league really takes away from the intent of the draft. I seriously draft like I would in any mock then realize I probably could have even done better if people weren't hawking points for the league.

 

i don't feel there are any no hassle elements that drastically alter my strategies, especially early on. it has more to do with which reserves i will select and how i manage my bye weeks. Im certainly not going to take a backup QB with the same by week as my starter, regardless of if a big value has fallen. I thought Romo was good value where I got him and would snap him up in any league but If Cutler had the same bye week, I would have had to pass in this format. Things like that.

 

considering ADP was followed almost to a T in the first 5 rounds, I don't think the no hassle alters the FFToday mock draft tool element of this exercise very much

[JScott 20]

Dwayne Allen is a very intriguing pick for a 2 TE. He could really shine. I had him as a fallback guy like Laderius Green. I figured he would slide by unnoticed and be available at will since he only played one game last year and has competition. He has some major upside in my opinion.

I like him a lot. Despite the obvious connection with the competition and the Luck, Allen was and still is the TE1 on IND. He will share reps with the competition but not enough to prevent him from being a low end TE1, high end TE2 imo.

[remote controller 133]

It comes in to play prolly more than it should.

[Vikings4ever 496]

Drafting for the No Hassle league really takes away from the intent of the draft. I seriously draft like I would in any mock then realize I probably could have even done better if people weren't hawking points for the league.

While the No Hassle aspect does give me a bit of a nudge, I don't think there's a single team that would be out of place in a normal league.

[remote controller 133]

I like him a lot. Despite the obvious connection with the competition and the Luck, Allen was and still is the TE1 on IND. He will share reps with the competition but not enough to prevent him from being a low end TE1, high end TE2 imo.

The competition got some needed help, and reps from the qb last year though. I think it was a fine pick, and a solid 2 TE prospect.

[JScott 20]

The competition got some needed help, and reps from the qb last year though. I think it was a fine pick, and a solid 2 TE prospect.

True. And still with all those reps and Allen's injury he still comes in as the TE1 so that says something to me.

[remote controller 133]

True. And still with all those reps and Allen's injury he still comes in as the TE1 so that says something to me.

I'm agreeing with you Jeff. It's still a pie, and you get the bigger piece.