mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 My wife has always loved this car.... with her new job, a $300 payment a month wouldn't be bad. https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chrysler-300-Vancouver-d165_L38047?sourceContext=emailLinkMobile_false_0#listing=177991233 Right now we have a 2013 Ford Explorer as the fam car. It's paid off and has around 80k miles on it. She's also using it as a commuter now. Not the best gas mileage. I have a work vehicle so there's no commute worry for me. Our second vehicle (can't use my work vehicle outside work at all) is a 2005 Chrysler Town and Country. Lots of miles @ 169k and it's off and on reliable, though I think the tryanny (can't join the military) is on it's last legs. Also the side sliding doors don't work, and neither does the AC. Needless to say it needs to go before something bad happens to it and I get $50 for it. Thinking of going in today and trading it off on that Chrysler 300 above for the wife as a commuter. It gets 19-31 supposedly.... but she's always wanted one. I just don't like trading off a paid for rig, for a new $300 car payment. What you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 29, 2017 You have three cars. I would sell the 05 T&C and not buy another car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 Doesn't work... need another car when she's not home. Can't use the work rig for runni g kids to practice, picking up anythimg, etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted July 29, 2017 Like every geek, I hate the idea of a car payment. I also hate the idea of buying a Chrysler. But $300/month isn't that much, especially when you factor in the gas money saved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 29, 2017 Generally I'd say no but three hundo ain't bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 Like every geek, I hate the idea of a car payment. I also hate the idea of buying a Chrysler. But $300/month isn't that much, especially when you factor in the gas money saved. This Chrysler Town & Country Touring we've had for 12 years, it's been really good. Cross country trips galore, zero problems, until yeah... it's got 170k miles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 Generally I'd say no but three hundo ain't bad Yeah and the price on that is about 4k below book. Looks like it's a Caddilac dealer that's had it on the lot for 40+ days and want to move it. It's a 2013 and only got 29,000 miles. Should last her quite awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted July 29, 2017 You'll be lucky to get $1000 for the trade which means you're looking to shell out at least $3,000+ for a down payment to get your $300/mo. I like those cars and even though its a Chrysler the ZF 8 speed tranny is very sweet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 EST. PAYMENT $304 Trade-In Value $1,000 Interest Rate 2.790% Loan Term (Months) 60 months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted July 29, 2017 sounds like you are about to have problems with the T&C. this is a car you guys desire, very good mileage on it. good price. are you going to take it somewhere to check condition? sounds like good timing to get the car you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted July 29, 2017 EST. PAYMENT $304 Trade-In Value $1,000 Interest Rate 2.790% Loan Term (Months) 60 months IDK...maybe I'm wrong. vehicle sales tax is at least a $1000 registration fees... ??? bullspit dealer fees...??? and probably another bs fee somewhere. Good luck though hopefully i'm wrwrwrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted July 29, 2017 You could always buy it and tell one of your kids, Daddies got some good news. You don't have to learn latin this year! Nice looking car. I think those are sharp. Have you thought of selling the van outright or is the $1000 a fair trade in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 You could always buy it and tell one of your kids, Daddies got some good news. You don't have to learn latin this year! Nice looking car. I think those are sharp. Have you thought of selling the van outright or is the $1000 a fair trade in? Yeah with the shape the van's in I'm hoping to get 1000 haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 IDK...maybe I'm wrong. vehicle sales tax is at least a $1000 registration fees... ??? bullspit dealer fees...??? and probably another bs fee somewhere. Good luck though hopefully i'm wrwrwrong You're most likely right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted July 29, 2017 That's a decent ride at a decent price if it serves your purposes. I posted some of my recent vehicle transactions in the thread about Bunny's daughter's ride so I won't repeat it all here. We bought a used 2012 T&C 3 years ago when it had only 19K miles on it. So far, it's been a great family van for those road trips etc you mentioned. Will the Explorer serve as the road trip vehicle now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted July 29, 2017 I have never had a car payment and never will. Unless you have to have a car right away, save up or don't buy one. Interest is for suckers. MAYBE if it's 0% interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted July 29, 2017 I have never had a car payment and never will. This is one of the Geek Club's 10 commandments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted July 29, 2017 This is one of the Geek Club's 10 commandments. True geeks have so much money they can pay cash but they also don't care about interest. I will go without before I pay interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 29, 2017 True geeks have so much money they can pay cash but they also don't care about interest. I will go without before I pay interest. If the interest rate is very low you're basically paying thousands less for the vehicle over time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 29, 2017 It's a fvcking Chrysler. Don't add this unnecessary burden to your life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted July 29, 2017 my real answer is= wait until your next trip to europe and do a euro-delivery for either bmw, benz, or audi edit: volvo and saab also have good savings. porsche does it, but they are the only one that makes you pay for the privilege. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 29, 2017 It's a fvcking Chrysler. Don't add this unnecessary burden to your life Haha... what praytel doths thou drive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 30, 2017 Meh.. went and looked. The wife liked it. Wanted to give me $500 for the van. Would only come up to 750. I walked. Van still retail books at 4k... fair trade in at 1300. May just sell it on craigslist 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted July 30, 2017 Meh.. went and looked. The wife liked it. Wanted to give me $500 for the van. Would only come up to 750. I walked. Van still retail books at 4k... fair trade in at 1300. May just sell it on craigslist I don't want to meet the people who are in the market for a used van. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 30, 2017 I don't want to meet the people who are in the market for a used van. Out bere its a bunch of mexican family men. It'll be cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 30, 2017 Here you go, same price it is a luxury toyota camry, since it is not a chrysler it will not fall apart as quick https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=460164377&zip=97035&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D97035%26startYear%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D75000%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DLUXURY%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2018%26makeCodeList%3DLEXUS%252CPOR%252CROV%26listingTypes%3Dused%26minPrice%3D15000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26maxPrice%3D24000%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D75&listingTypes=used&minPrice=15000&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&maxPrice=24000&vehicleStyleCodes=LUXURY&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&makeCodeList=LEXUS%2CPOR%2CROV&searchRadius=75&makeCode1=LEXUS&modelCode1=ES350 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 30, 2017 https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=462570713&zip=97035&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D97035%26startYear%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D45000%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DLUXURY%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2018%26makeCodeList%3DLEXUS%252CPOR%252CROV%252CACURA%252CAUDI%252CTESLA%252CMAS%252CJAG%26listingTypes%3Dused%26minPrice%3D15000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26maxPrice%3D24000%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D75&listingTypes=used&minPrice=15000&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&maxPrice=24000&vehicleStyleCodes=LUXURY&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&makeCodeList=LEXUS%2CPOR%2CROV%2CACURA%2CAUDI%2CTESLA%2CMAS%2CJAG&searchRadius=75&makeCode1=ACURA&modelCode1=ILX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 30, 2017 https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=456965268&zip=97035&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D97035%26startYear%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D45000%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DLUXURY%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2018%26makeCodeList%3DPOR%252CROV%252CAUDI%252CTESLA%252CMAS%252CJAG%252CCAD%252CINFIN%26listingTypes%3Dused%26minPrice%3D15000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26maxPrice%3D24000%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D75&listingTypes=used&minPrice=15000&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&maxPrice=24000&vehicleStyleCodes=LUXURY&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&makeCodeList=POR%2CROV%2CAUDI%2CTESLA%2CMAS%2CJAG%2CCAD%2CINFIN&searchRadius=75&makeCode1=INFIN&modelCode1=G37 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted July 30, 2017 Good choices Ski. I like all three better than the 300. That Infiniti is sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 30, 2017 Haha... what praytel doths thou drive? 2012 Chevy Cruze, which has had its share of troubles, but none engine wise. Wife drives a 2014 Buick Enclave. Car payment of 370. Great investment with 2 kids. Especially since there was a story about a family near my home town recently. Pregnant mom and 3 kids all die in a Subaru because a pickup ran a stop sign and tboned the car. Ran it off the road. If they were in something like an Enclave, everyone probably survives. Or at least maybe only the person closest to the collision dies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted July 30, 2017 Out bere its a bunch of mexican family men. It'll be cool. Seinfeld's van! Seinfeld's van! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted July 30, 2017 Meh.. went and looked. The wife liked it. Wanted to give me $500 for the van. Would only come up to 750. I walked. Van still retail books at 4k... fair trade in at 1300. May just sell it on craigslist I sold my '95 Ford Explorer on FB marketplace in one day. Check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 30, 2017 I sold my '95 Ford Explorer on FB marketplace in one day. Check it out. Good idea... may sell my 79 F250 as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,582 Posted July 30, 2017 Goto a real dealership not a used car one. Wait til Labor Day if you can. That 19-31 mpg screens bs to me anyways I'm getting myself a GMC Terrain in a couple months can still find new 2016 if I look and payment is only 400 and I get 75k miles of protection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 30, 2017 Here you go, same price it is a luxury toyota camry, since it is not a chrysler it will not fall apart as quick https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=460164377&zip=97035&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D97035%26startYear%3D2009%26maxMileage%3D75000%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DLUXURY%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2018%26makeCodeList%3DLEXUS%252CPOR%252CROV%26listingTypes%3Dused%26minPrice%3D15000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26maxPrice%3D24000%26firstRecord%3D0%26searchRadius%3D75&listingTypes=used&minPrice=15000&startYear=2009&numRecords=25&maxPrice=24000&vehicleStyleCodes=LUXURY&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&makeCodeList=LEXUS%2CPOR%2CROV&searchRadius=75&makeCode1=LEXUS&modelCode1=ES350 Good stuff bro.. gives the wife a little perspective. Need to keep the car 2013 or newer to get 2.79% from the credit union. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 30, 2017 Meh.. went and looked. The wife liked it. Wanted to give me $500 for the van. Would only come up to 750. I walked. Van still retail books at 4k... fair trade in at 1300. May just sell it on craigslist Bought a 2005 T&C last year, 142,000 miles, $800. That $750 isn't too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 30, 2017 I don't want to meet the people who are in the market for a used van. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 30, 2017 Good stuff bro.. gives the wife a little perspective. Need to keep the car 2013 or newer to get 2.79% from the credit union. That 3rd link is probably the best, it is essentially a nissan altima with all of the features. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,312 Posted July 30, 2017 my real answer is= wait until your next trip to europe and do a euro-delivery for either bmw, benz, or audi edit: volvo and saab also have good savings. porsche does it, but they are the only one that makes you pay for the privilege. I will never buy a European car again. Way too expensive to fix. They're nice, but you can get other luxury brands that are much more economical. Infiniti, Acura, Lexus, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
