wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 Have been wondering this for a long while. This whole taking pictures of everything nonsense. I think we can agree that women make up about 90% of that, no? F****** ingenious to include a camera in cell phones. I want to punch that guy in the face so badly. Here's my question. Do you think there will come a point when people will get sick of that crap? I mean, they've added filters to make taking pictures more fun but at a certain point there's got to be some diminishing returns. Womens vanity finally has to max out at some point doesn't it? Okay, we get it, there's five thousand pictures of you out there. Enough already. The same thing with your kid your dog what you ate for dinner etcetera. Maybe it's more about hopeful thing, but it just seems like this stuff has to be burning itself out, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 GPS in children. Why isn't this already a thing? can be removed when they move out of the house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 GPS in children. Why isn't this already a thing? can be removed when they move out of the house I agree 100%. But we live in a world where we cant even get GpS in our planes. No kidding. How stupid is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 I agree 100%. But we live in a world where we cant even get GpS in our planes. No kidding. How stupid is that? It's just too logical. People really are focking morons. We have lojack for our cars, but not our kids? Think about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 GPS in children. Why isn't this already a thing? can be removed when they move out of the house In fairness, the technology isn't there yet. We need further miniaturisation. If you think about chipping a dog, they still need to be taken to a vet and scanned. Because it's simply a barcode. GPS receivers need batteries and other Hardware that are much bigger than just the under the skin dermal chip. But, no damn reason why we can't GPS planes. You know where we dont? Pilots union. No kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 25, 2017 The worst part of the selfie craze is that everyone filters their pictures so much that they all look like they have the porcelain skin of a seven year old. No one has laugh lines or forehead wrinkles. Then you see them in real life and it looks like they've aged 30 years overnight. I have so many 40-45 year-old Facebook friends who post picture after picture of themselves filtered to look 21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 The worst part of the selfie craze is that everyone filters their pictures so much that they all look like they have the porcelain skin of a seven year old. No one has laugh lines or forehead wrinkles. Then you see them in real life and it looks like they've aged 30 years overnight. I have so many 40-45 year-old Facebook friends who post picture after picture of themselves filtered to look 21. I don't use filters, everyone knows I look like an alligator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted April 25, 2017 I don't use filters, everyone knows I look like an alligator I wish they had a filter that could reduce the size of my gigantic dome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 25, 2017 I wish they had a filter that could reduce the size of my gigantic dome. Send me a pic. I can do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 25, 2017 GPS in children. Why isn't this already a thing? can be removed when they move out of the house That would be just another excuse for people to be even worse parents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 That would be just another excuse for people to be even worse parents. Can already do that with cell phones, don't be a twat. I am talking emergencies, like when your kid doesn't answer your 10 pm text by 10:15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted April 25, 2017 Can already do that with cell phones, don't be a twat. I am talking emergencies, like when your kid doesn't answer your 10 pm text by 10:15 Chipping a human being, even if they are your child is beyond overreach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 I'm no tinfoiler, but I increasingly take steps to 'silo' my digital footprint. A friend of mine is a bondsman and it is unreal the amount of data she has at her fingertips. Even taking active measures, a ton of shiit gets out there. Related, I think that new Tom hanks movie The Circle is about how pervasive and insidious it is. And STILL, no one is talking about Congress recently allowing our data to be released,sold without our permission. But half the country knows who got eliminated on Dancing With the Stars last night. F****** crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 Chipping a human being, even if they are your child is beyond overreach. a child goes missing in the USA every 90 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 a child goes missing in the USA every 90 seconds. whatever the statistic is above, over 95% of so-called abductions are actually familial in nature.(custody) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 25, 2017 Can already do that with cell phones, don't be a twat. I am talking emergencies, like when your kid doesn't answer your 10 pm text by 10:15 Can already do what with cellphones? Use them as an excuse for sh!tty parenting? Yeah you can. So let's add another layer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 whatever the statistic is above, over 95% of so-called abductions are actually familial in nature.(custody) that means the other parent doesn't want to know where they've done? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 25, 2017 I'm no tinfoiler, but I increasingly take steps to 'silo' my digital footprint. A friend of mine is a bondsman and it is unreal the amount of data she has at her fingertips. Even taking active measures, a ton of shiit gets out there. Related, I think that new Tom hanks movie The Circle is about how pervasive and insidious it is. And STILL, no one is talking about Congress recently allowing our data to be released,sold without our permission. But half the country knows who got eliminated on Dancing With the Stars last night. F****** crazy. Just not really concerned about my data getting out there. I don't do anything illegal, and I'm sure the government doesn't have time to be looking at every web search and email of every innocent citizen. With so many homegrown, lone wolf terrorists living here, I want them to have access to everything they're doing anytime there's a red flag about someone. I don't really care if some black tie in Washington knows I watch midget porn and have a fantasy football team on yahoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 25, 2017 a child goes missing in the USA every 90 seconds. Well that child needs to be on a chain. That's just ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted April 25, 2017 a child goes missing in the USA every 90 seconds. I think the quote "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." applies here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted April 25, 2017 It's just too logical. People really are focking morons. We have lojack for our cars, but not our kids? Think about that I think it's a human rights issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 25, 2017 Well that child needs to be on a chain. That's just ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 Well that child needs to be on a chain. That's just ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted April 25, 2017 I thought the pet rock of today was going by the user name newbiejr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted April 25, 2017 Wow. 23 posts before someone attempts to hijack. That might be a record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted April 25, 2017 Every post appears to be on topic. Please stop trying to derail the thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 927 Posted April 25, 2017 Well that child needs to be on a chain. That's just ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted April 25, 2017 Just not really concerned about my data getting out there. I don't do anything illegal, and I'm sure the government doesn't have time to be looking at every web search and email of every innocent citizen. With so many homegrown, lone wolf terrorists living here, I want them to have access to everything they're doing anytime there's a red flag about someone. I don't really care if some black tie in Washington knows I watch midget porn and have a fantasy football team on yahoo. I was a big part of that thinking in the past. And I still am to a certain degree - because there isn't much I can do about it. However, let me disabuse you on two and half fronts: 1) Access to 'benign' data 2) Implicit criminality Let me walk you thru (an abbreviated) 'real world' example: A bad guy (BG) can use the say, Disney Channel database to know the approximate age range and gender of children in a certain region. He can further narrow that search via many methods / databases. He can also determine not only what your wife buys,(who cares?) but when she goes to the grocery store, or gym, or massage, etc. - Because everything has a 'membership' card now. He can also tell when and where you typically hang out at a bar, golf club, gym, etc. He can also come up with a plausible reason to BE at your house when you guys aren't (but your kid is). Kid: "Oh, Mom did say something about upgrading the cable...." Now, a lot of what I just listed used to require authorized LEO's going through a specific warrant process - showing reasonable cause. That information is now collected passively and/or volunteered actively. For example, cop used to have to call your plate in to 'run' it. Now, EVERY plate on every side of the cop car is read passively and simultaneously and run automatically. Congress just passed legislation that let things like Grocery, Disney, etc data be sold to anyone with a bank account. You don't even need to 'hack' data anymore. Just whip out your cc. As far as access? It'd be great to think that only a few hundred - or even thousand - fully vetted LEO's going through a strict process can have this data. - That's why I brought up the bondsman. Took her maybe two weeks - while working full time as a bartender - to get her license - and have access to virtually everything the FBI and local LEO has at their immediate fingertips. It was focking scary. In this case, you didn't have to be a criminal. You could be Captain America. But now, for what? 100 bucks, some sleaze or some ill-intended ex, perverted neighbor, coworker, etc. can get all of the above - and a LOT more - from some sketchy individual - or get it himself online. Now imagine what they can do by simply hacking a single low security (Alexa) device that controls ovens, lights, alarms, locks etc. It can drive you crazy if you think too much about it. And, most people put more thought into the Kardashians, Dancing with the Scars or their FF league than shiit like that. I guess it's more a natural defense mechanism more than anything. Hollywood's got nothing on reality in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted April 25, 2017 Zero running back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,015 Posted April 25, 2017 I think the quote "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." applies here. No, it doesn't, not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted April 25, 2017 No, it doesn't, not even close. Bullsh!t it doesn't. Chipping a child is overreach, plain and simple. To many things can go wrong if we open that door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 25, 2017 Bullsh!t it doesn't. Chipping a child is overreach, plain and simple. To many things can go wrong if we open that door. I think it's a dumb idea, but there's no need to wax poetic about losing liberty. I don't think even ed is suggesting anything mandatory. I presume it would be up to the parents. Making decisions about your kids is a big part of that job description. Also, that quote doesn't mean, what you think it means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted April 25, 2017 I think it's a dumb idea, but there's no need to wax poetic about losing liberty. I don't think even ed is suggesting anything mandatory. I presume it would be up to the parents. Making decisions about your kids is a big part of that job description. Also, that quote doesn't mean, what you think it means. Of course at first it would be up to the parents, then over time the government would see its value and they would make it mandatory and eventually you would need it to go to public school, etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 25, 2017 I'm no tinfoiler, but I increasingly take steps to 'silo' my digital footprint. A friend of mine is a bondsman and it is unreal the amount of data she has at her fingertips. Even taking active measures, a ton of shiit gets out there. Related, I think that new Tom hanks movie The Circle is about how pervasive and insidious it is. And STILL, no one is talking about Congress recently allowing our data to be released,sold without our permission. But half the country knows who got eliminated on Dancing With the Stars last night. F****** crazy. One of a few reasons I don't have a smart phone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 25, 2017 Of course at first it would be up to the parents, then over time the government would see its value and make it mandatory and eventually you would need it to go to public school, etc.. So, presuming there was a proven safe technology, you're suggesting parents shouldn't have the right to make that decision if they decide that's what they want for their child, based on the fact the government might someday decide to co-opt it? That seems like a fair amount of overreach right there. Why should your paranoia dictate how I can parent my child? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 I think it's a dumb idea, but there's no need to wax poetic about losing liberty. I don't think even ed is suggesting anything mandatory. I presume it would be up to the parents. Making decisions about your kids is a big part of that job description. 100% what 4 year old has liberty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted April 25, 2017 100% what 4 year old has liberty? Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,015 Posted April 25, 2017 I think it's a dumb idea, but there's no need to wax poetic about losing liberty. I don't think even ed is suggesting anything mandatory. I presume it would be up to the parents. Making decisions about your kids is a big part of that job description. Also, that quote doesn't mean, what you think it means. So, presuming there was a proven safe technology, you're suggesting parents shouldn't have the right to make that decision if they decide that's what they want for their child, based on the fact the government might someday decide to co-opt it? That seems like a fair amount of overreach right there. Why should your paranoia dictate how I can parent my child? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted April 25, 2017 Wow. exactly. you need help. you're insane. do you line your packers hats with tinfoil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 25, 2017 I'm in agreement, kids should be chipped. Cell phones get lost or stolen, it makes sense to take every precaution to not lose your kid. They can get it removed when they are 18 or start paying rent. But if it's a wandering toddler, a 7yr old hell bent on getting himself killed or lost, or a teenager driving MY car, you damn better believe I have a right to know where they are at all times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites