Half a Million More Potential Gun Owners. Fantastic.

[wiffleball 4,640]

'Memba WAY back when people were pizzed bc the (most recent) Texas gunman's shiit wasn't in the background check database?

 

Ya know, and the Pro-NRA politicians were calling this a 'clerical error' - and you can't 'legislate away clerical errors?'

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/tens-of-thousands-with-outstanding-warrants-purged-from-background-check-database-for-gun-purchases/2017/11/22/b890643c-ced1-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

 

 

Tens of thousands of people wanted by law enforcement officials have been removed this year from the FBI criminal background check database that prohibits fugitives from justice from buying guns.

 

The names were taken out after the FBI in February changed its legal interpretation of “fugitive from justice” to say it pertains only to wanted people who have crossed state lines.

 

What that means is that those fugitives who were previously prohibited under federal law from purchasing firearms can now buy them,

 

For more than 15 years, the FBI and ATF disagreed about who exactly was a fugitive from justice.

The FBI, which runs the criminal background check database, had a broad definition and said that anyone with an outstanding arrest warrant was prohibited from buying a gun. But ATF argued that, under the law, a person is considered a fugitive from justice only if they have an outstanding warrant and have also traveled to another state.

 

 

After Trump was inaugurated, the Justice Department further narrowed the definition to those who have fled across state lines to avoid prosecution for a crime or to avoid giving testimony in a criminal proceeding.

On Feb. 15, the FBI directed its employees in the Criminal Justice Information Services Division to remove all entries of fugitives from justice from the background check database and said that “entries will not be permitted” under that category until further notice. Before the FBI memo, there were about 500,000 people identified as fugitives from justice in the database — and all of those names were removed.

Now there are 788.

 

Geesus.

 

 

Oh yeah - And, notice the timing of this story? Fock, I'm sure THAT's a coincidence.

[the s is ilent 69]

My local gun shop is having a 2fer one sale.

 

Pistol and assault rifle for $799

 

Prolly have to stand in line.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

You know the safest country in the world has 100% gun ownership

[wiffleball 4,640]

You know the safest country in the world has 100% gun ownership

The Pope owns a gun?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

The Pope owns a gun?

A real country

[Scary Gary 19]

The Pope owns a gun?

In reality though... do you think he is protected by a gun?

 

And quit being scared of guns. That is the dumbest thing ever.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Crime rates have dropped as guns ownership has increased in this country.

 

OP is afraid of dumb things.

[BLS 313]

OP is afraid of dumb things.

[Thornton Melon 544]

'Memba WAY back when people were pizzed bc the (most recent) Texas gunman's shiit wasn't in the background check database?

 

Ya know, and the Pro-NRA politicians were calling this a 'clerical error' - and you can't 'legislate away clerical errors?'

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/tens-of-thousands-with-outstanding-warrants-purged-from-background-check-database-for-gun-purchases/2017/11/22/b890643c-ced1-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

 

 

Geesus.

 

 

Oh yeah - And, notice the timing of this story? Fock, I'm sure THAT's a coincidence.

 

I see you left out this part, presumably for shock value:

 

Federal law enforcement officials say that about 430,000 names of wanted people removed from the database were from Massachusetts.

Commissioner James Slater of the Massachusetts Department of Criminal Justice Information Services said that the reason that his state had so many fugitives in the FBI database is that state policy required sending the bureau the names of all people with an outstanding warrant, whether it was for misdemeanors or felonies.

Because Massachusetts state law prevents fugitives from buying guns, those individuals have now been added back to the federal database under the “state prohibitor” category and will be prevented from purchasing a firearm, he said.

Of the 70,000 others whose names have been purged, the FBI is working with the states to identify which people might have crossed state lines and could be put back into the federal database for that or other reasons.

[wiffleball 4,640]

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Or whether that part adds to or detract from some kind of shock value?

 

It's called the editing. Is pretty crazy that so many are from one state though. What the hell?

[wiffleball 4,640]

So, basically this bored is so filled with gun hacks that they can't even admit that it's not a good idea to have criminals who otherwise wouldn't be on the list of gun purchasers to be able to get guns. I mean for fucksake that's their whole argument is there are already laws out there to stop bad people from having guns. Yeah, not so much.

[Thornton Melon 544]

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Or whether that part adds to or detract from some kind of shock value?

 

It's called the editing. Is pretty crazy that so many are from one state though. What the hell?

 

What I'm getting at is that your "half a million" claim is not even close.

 

And the answer to your question about why there are so many from one state is right in the article. MA forwards the names of any one with an outstanding warrant - misdemeanor or felony.

[wiffleball 4,640]

 

What I'm getting at is that your "half a million" claim is not even close.

 

And the answer to your question about why there are so many from one state is right in the article. MA forwards the names of any one with an outstanding warrant - misdemeanor or felony.

So mass. criminals are safe?

[cyclone24 1,814]

Dont you know....we need more guns so morons can have this fantasy that THEY will be a "good guy hero with a gun".

Sorry little kids at school, youll just have to keep getting slaughtered.

 

Its like the church shooter. They gush over this guy who "stopped" him with a gun.

Umm...prettt sure you and i have a different definition of stop...because two dozen people died BEFORE he was "stopped"

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

Dont you know....we need more guns so morons can have this fantasy that THEY will be a "good guy hero with a gun".

Sorry little kids at school, youll just have to keep getting slaughtered.

 

Its like the church shooter. They gush over this guy who "stopped" him with a gun.

Umm...prettt sure you and i have a different definition of stop...because two dozen people died BEFORE he was "stopped"

 

yep seems like people die an awful lot in "Gun Free Zones"

[penultimatestraw 473]

You know the safest country in the world has 100% gun ownership

Iceland doesn’t have 100% gun ownership, but it does have an egalitarian society. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22288564

[ROCKFORD 134]

there is a babtist church here on the conservative side of town.

 

they have a program there where people donate used, unwanted guns and they distribute them to the homeless.

 

its very popular.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

Iceland doesn’t have 100% gun ownership, but it does have an egalitarian society. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22288564

 

So Iceland and Switzerland have done it exactly the opposite ways, but have one thing in common.....

 

 

WHITE

 

in Iceland's case, not a single citizen is from a middle eastern or African country

 

I know it may seem racist but the reality is multiculturalism leads to conflict

 

multiculturalism is what leads to this political correctness victim garbage, and ultimately leads to someone like Trump voted in by people fed up with it

[penultimatestraw 473]

So Iceland and Switzerland have done it exactly the opposite ways, but have one thing in common.....

 

 

WHITE

 

in Iceland's case, not a single citizen is from a middle eastern or African country

 

I know it may seem racist but the reality is multiculturalism leads to conflict

 

multiculturalism is what leads to this political correctness victim garbage, and ultimately leads to someone like Trump voted in by people fed up with it

They have a lot of things in common, including a uniform population with little income disparity. Same with the rest of the top 12: http://uk.businessinsider.com/worlds-safest-countries-global-peace-index-2017-6

 

I’m not saying guns are our only problem, but we are clearly are an outlier with regards to gun violence. We should work on the cultural problems that contribute to inner city violence as a part of the solution too. Middle eastern citizens have nothing to do with it.

[SenatorRock 708]

The FBI, which runs the criminal background check database, had a broad definition and said that anyone with an outstanding arrest warrant was prohibited from buying a gun. But ATF argued that, under the law, a person is considered a fugitive from justice only if they have an outstanding warrant and have also traveled to another state.

 

Just to be clear, you are melting over people who have outstanding warrants?

 

Like poor people who don't pay their speeding ticket?

 

Or dumb people who drive without insurance?

 

Sure these people are irresponsible, but acting like they are felons who all of a sudden can buy guns is absurd.