Ray Rice will be the 2014 SOD!

[The Moz 69]

He is like 26/27 , He was a consensus top3 pick for quite a few years , only got a 2 game suspension, is back to his fighting weight, the Ravens Offense has to be better (can't be any worse) - same with O line, Pitta is back, said to be having his best camp since 2010. And this year he has a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.

 

Right now he can STILL be had for a 3rd to EVEN 5th round pick - it is mind blowing the players going ahead of him right now.

 

Barring injury he WILL be a top 3 PPG RB this season. in PPR.

[MDC 5,890]

I like Rice just fine in the 3/4 round range where he's falling but I hate the cliche "Chip on his shoulder." Can't you say that about every player who has a down year?

 

Not trying to be a D but abset any news about his crazy workout regimen / unusual dedication to getting in shape this is a meaningless comment and I see it at FFT a lot.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Im in agreement, Rice is no different than when he was a top 3 guy and he is still in his prime. We will all look back and say he was worth a 1st rnd pick next year when hes drafted there again.

[weepaws 2,459]

Can't do it . I will pass on him . Can't stand the site of him using his fist on is wife . You can have him

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Top 3 no way. Maybe top 10, but that entire offense would have to be better by leaps and bounds.

[BufordT 371]

Gary Kubiak as OC is the best reason to be high on Ray Rice.

 

I'm still up in the air on this guy. Last year, he had the look of a player who just got paid.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Gary Kubiak as OC is the best reason to be high on Ray Rice.

 

I'm still up in the air on this guy. Last year, he had the look of a player who just got paid.

Completely agree with this. Kubiak can do a lot with some average talent and I still think Rice is a far above average player.

[RedzoneMonster 102]

You're forgetting how many carries he had at Rutgers. 910 to be exact. 380 in his last year which is insane. Buyer beware..

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

You're forgetting how many carries he had at Rutgers. 910 to be exact. 380 in his last year which is insane. Buyer beware..

 

i was just coming to post this.

 

i like his value at his ADP but im not expecting a return to top 3 status.

[tanatastic 2,061]

You're forgetting how many carries he had at Rutgers. 910 to be exact. 380 in his last year which is insane. Buyer beware..

Didn't every rb have a ton of college carries? I mean, that's kind of the thing, every rb in the nfl was at one time "college player of the year" or "the best rb in the sec". Seems cheap to tack rays college carries on.

 

Also on an unrelated note, top 3 is attainable for a lot of guys. I can tell you with exact certainty that McCoy, Charles and AP will not finish as the top 3 rbs. The top 3 fantasy ranked rbs have prob never finished as the top 3 in any year ever in fantasy history. So there's plenty of room for anyone, the nfl is wild every year aside from drew brees and Peyton being good.

[RedzoneMonster 102]

Didn't every rb have a ton of college carries? I mean, that's kind of the thing, every rb in the nfl was at one time "college player of the year" or "the best rb in the sec". Seems cheap to tack rays college carries on.

 

 

It's not cheap at all. Look at as many college RB stats as you want. There are not many in the modern era who even came closer to Rice's college workload. Here are a few examples. McCoy = 584 carries. J. Charles = 533, AP = 748, Lacy = 355, Sankey = 644. I could go on.. Also, Rice was run into the ground his last 2 seasons - 335 and 380 carries his last 2 years. I'm a Rutgers alum and saw him play. Trust me, it was if they used him on every play in some games. Don't get me wrong, I'ma fan of his and hope he has a comeback season, but trust me it was talked about as a "negative" about him when he was drafted regarding his college workload.

[dreen626 17]

Didn't every rb have a ton of college carries? I mean, that's kind of the thing, every rb in the nfl was at one time "college player of the year" or "the best rb in the sec". Seems cheap to tack rays college carries on.

 

No not many RBs carry the load anymore in college like Rice did.

He had almost 1000 carries in college I think and never was that great athletically IMO.

 

Charles, Lynch, Mcfaadden, Lacy, Richardson, Spiller, Ellington, Bush, Foster, etc were all in time shares or carried the ball less than RR.

 

Montee Ball came into NFL with a lot of tread like Ray Rice. Forte may have came close to those guys.

 

 

[kilroy69 994]

We ARE talking about the same ray rice that averaged 3.1 ypc last year? The same ray rice that has seen his receptions drop to a career low of 58 and his yards per catch avg drop for another career low of 5.8 yards? The same ray rice that is going to be suspended for 2 games? No way he is going to put up good enough numbers to be a top 10 let alone a top 3 back.

[dreen626 17]

It's not cheap at all. Look at as many college RB stats as you want. There are not many in the modern era who even came closer to Rice's college workload. Here are a few examples. McCoy = 584 carries. J. Charles = 533, AP = 748, Lacy = 355, Sankey = 644. I could go on.. Also, Rice was run into the ground his last 2 seasons - 335 and 380 carries his last 2 years. I'm a Rutgers alum and saw him play. Trust me, it was if they used him on every play in some games. Don't get me wrong, I'ma fan of his and hope he has a comeback season, but trust me it was talked about as a "negative" about him when he was drafted regarding his college workload.

 

 

SMH at Greg Schiano. He was going to do the same to Doug Martin in Tampa also.

[Gepetto 985]

Just don't be sending me a bunch of Ray Rice trade offers because you think you increased his value with this thread. I don't think he's going to have a good season at all anyway.

[msudavedawg 5]

Two keeper league where I keep Brees and Demarius Thomas and also pick dead last in round 3 due to winning the league last season. Rice will definitely be in my plans if still there. Primed for a bounce back yeat IMO and worth it if he can be had at that spot.

[kilroy69 994]

it amazes me at how many of you are drinking the ray rice Kool-aide

[Serpent 51]

He goes pretty darn late. If you can get him late I think he's a good pick.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Oops I didn't factor the 2 games, he def wont be top 3 with 2 games missed in total points. But I'm still hoping for a ppg top finish. Too many people copy and paste last years results. The ravens can easily bounce back and the run game would be a major reason if that were to happen.

[kilroy69 994]

the only way I am drafting him is if he is there in the 6th or later

[Djgb13 2,338]

He would be a nice rb3. Def wouldn't take him as my rb2 but if he's there when I'm ready for another rb then I'm drafting him. Pure upside

[Spec7ral 6]

Kubiak factor is going to flip foster and rice in actual value vs adp

[Mr Neil 63]

Ray rice is not a good fit for Kubiaks ZBS. Pierce is a much better player suited for that system. And if rice comes back and poops the bed I could see him being a third down only guy due to pass pro reasons

[loaf 0]

He would be a nice rb3. Def wouldn't take him as my rb2 but if he's there when I'm ready for another rb then I'm drafting him. Pure upside

this

[bandrus1 413]

josh gordon is going to be the SOD if you draft in the next 2 weeks

[IGotWorms 3,311]

When RBs fall off, it's over for them. It's not like WR where you see them suddenly come back from a down year or two.

 

I know Rice is still under 30 but he's had a lot of miles on those treads. And does he have the fire anymore? Got his ring, got paid...

[Mustard Lover 3]

You can't go wrong with where Ray Rice is going right now, but SOD will most likely be Darren Sproles this year.

[The Moz 69]

When RBs fall off, it's over for them. It's not like WR where you see them suddenly come back from a down year or two.

 

I know Rice is still under 30 but he's had a lot of miles on those treads. And does he have the fire anymore? Got his ring, got paid...

Gary Kubiak made first rounders out of Dom Davis and Arian Foster and anyone else that played RB in Houston when he was there was at least startable. Rice is the best back he has had in terms of talent in a long time. If he stays on the field he will end the season top 3 for RBs for PPG

[stonewall 647]

I am praying that his ADP remains low. It is highway robbery where he is going in redrafts thus far.

[ric0 20]

Anyone think that Bernard Pierce could do well enough in the first 2 games to steal the starting position away?

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Gary Kubiak made first rounders out of Dom Davis and Arian Foster and anyone else that played RB in Houston when he was there was at least startable. Rice is the best back he has had in terms of talent in a long time. If he stays on the field he will end the season top 3 for RBs for PPG

If you are saying rice is better than foster i completely disagree. Fosters excellence may be short lived, but watching him run was great. Not saying rice isnt fun to watch, but i just think foster is a notch above him talent wise.

[$epphori$ 118]

He is like 26/27 , He was a consensus top3 pick for quite a few years , only got a 2 game suspension, is back to his fighting weight, the Ravens Offense has to be better (can't be any worse) - same with O line, Pitta is back, said to be having his best camp since 2010. And this year he has a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.

 

Right now he can STILL be had for a 3rd to EVEN 5th round pick - it is mind blowing the players going ahead of him right now.

 

Barring injury he WILL be a top 3 PPG RB this season. in PPR.

lol Rice is done, he blows, didnt u see him tryn to run in cement shoes last year?

[Ray_T 589]

it is a tough call.

 

Last season was bad, but he was also injured early and never really shook the cobwebs off. Looked a bit better late in the season, but still not outstanding.

 

I know the line was bad. that definitely hurts.

 

one other factor to keep in mind with respect to all RB's (not just Rice)

 

The Stats of the RB are often an indicator of how the team is doing as a whole.

 

if the team is winning, they are going to run the ball late in games when the defense is tired and worn out. These garbage time carries can add 30-40 yards per game to a RB's stats (plus any TD's Scored)

 

Baltimore as a team was not good on the whole. They played a lot of games from behind (even some of the ones they won late) and you are not gonna get a lot of Ray Rice runs when that situation occurs. He caught 58 passes Last year. not bad for a down year even though I know he was catching 70+ a couple years back.

 

Kubiak is a good coach. he will install the Zone Blocking. I dont know off the top of my head if Baltimore did much of it in the past, but Rice seems like the type that should do ok in a system like this because his vision is good.

 

If he can get things turned around as a whole and if the team makes the playoffs, Rice will do just fine. If the team continues to get worse instead of better, then Rice may not be such a good pick.

 

I'm not predicting a return to being a top 3 RB but top 10 is possible. I just wouldnt draft him in the first round unless it's PPR rules. Even then, it would be a late first rounder.

 

If you get him in round 3 or later in any format I'd say you got a steal.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

it is a tough call.

 

Last season was bad, but he was also injured early and never really shook the cobwebs off. Looked a bit better late in the season, but still not outstanding.

 

I know the line was bad. that definitely hurts.

 

one other factor to keep in mind with respect to all RB's (not just Rice)

 

The Stats of the RB are often an indicator of how the team is doing as a whole.

 

if the team is winning, they are going to run the ball late in games when the defense is tired and worn out. These garbage time carries can add 30-40 yards per game to a RB's stats (plus any TD's Scored)

 

Baltimore as a team was not good on the whole. They played a lot of games from behind (even some of the ones they won late) and you are not gonna get a lot of Ray Rice runs when that situation occurs. He caught 58 passes Last year. not bad for a down year even though I know he was catching 70+ a couple years back.

 

Kubiak is a good coach. he will install the Zone Blocking. I dont know off the top of my head if Baltimore did much of it in the past, but Rice seems like the type that should do ok in a system like this because his vision is good.

 

If he can get things turned around as a whole and if the team makes the playoffs, Rice will do just fine. If the team continues to get worse instead of better, then Rice may not be such a good pick.

 

I'm not predicting a return to being a top 3 RB but top 10 is possible. I just wouldnt draft him in the first round unless it's PPR rules. Even then, it would be a late first rounder.

 

If you get him in round 3 or later in any format I'd say you got a steal.

Rice is going to have to have the greatest preseason ever to be considered in the first two rounds. He is still going a lot later than the third from what i can see.

[Djgb13 2,338]

I see rice going consistently in rounds 5-8 in 12 team leagues. Most people are selecting him as a rb3. After his suspension I see him putting up the same amount of stats he used to

[Breesman32 11]

We ARE talking about the same ray rice that averaged 3.1 ypc last year? The same ray rice that has seen his receptions drop to a career low of 58 and his yards per catch avg drop for another career low of 5.8 yards? The same ray rice that is going to be suspended for 2 games? No way he is going to put up good enough numbers to be a top 10 let alone a top 3 back.

Quad injury. And this Ray Rice plays for John Harbaugh. Look at the ravens schedule also

@Cleveland..........with browns shoring up their secondary, the ravens have no choice but to run it down the browns' throats. Rice has usually owned the browns.

Panthers............Did the panthers look that good against the run last year? I don't think it happens two straight seasons. And Carolina's offense is extremely beatable to a point where ravens could have a decisive win and run down the clock.

@Colts.............They can't stop the run but Rice may not be as strong here as colts could get ahead with the passing game making Flacco throw more.

@Bucs.............The big wild card game. Bucs have the defense but ravens do as well. Because of the potential of grind game, Rice could get the yardage.

Falcons............The falcons are not good on the road against contending teams, not even on offense. Ravens could be up two scores by the third quarter.

@Steelers........When these two teams play each other its usually a rb frenzy.

Titans...............Terrible team this year ravens should have a lot of clock draining.

@Saints...........Here's the one tough game.

Chargers..........Its in December and in Baltimore, chargers run defense will not sustain cold weather and ravens know they can run the clock on them.

@Dolphins.......Guess what one of Rice's best games last year was against this team and if that same dolphins defense shows up against the run it could be again.

Jaguars............This is in Bmore and Jville is still not gonna improve enough to the point where they can compete in this kind of game. Another Rice friendly game.

@Texans..........On paper this is a bad game but in the hunt for a wild card spot, ravens will compete and that could mean getting Rice involved in another grinder game.

 

Blowout games I see

Carolina

Atlanta

Tennessee

San Diego

Jacksonville

 

Grinder games

@Cleveland

@Tampa Bay

@Pittsburgh

@Houston

 

Tough games

@Cincinatti

@New Orleans

 

Easy matchups on paper but will not be easy overall games

@Indianapolis

@Miami

[Breesman32 11]

it is a tough call.

 

Last season was bad, but he was also injured early and never really shook the cobwebs off. Looked a bit better late in the season, but still not outstanding.

 

I know the line was bad. that definitely hurts.

 

one other factor to keep in mind with respect to all RB's (not just Rice)

 

The Stats of the RB are often an indicator of how the team is doing as a whole.

 

if the team is winning, they are going to run the ball late in games when the defense is tired and worn out. These garbage time carries can add 30-40 yards per game to a RB's stats (plus any TD's Scored)

 

Baltimore as a team was not good on the whole. They played a lot of games from behind (even some of the ones they won late) and you are not gonna get a lot of Ray Rice runs when that situation occurs. He caught 58 passes Last year. not bad for a down year even though I know he was catching 70+ a couple years back.

 

Kubiak is a good coach. he will install the Zone Blocking. I dont know off the top of my head if Baltimore did much of it in the past, but Rice seems like the type that should do ok in a system like this because his vision is good.

 

If he can get things turned around as a whole and if the team makes the playoffs, Rice will do just fine. If the team continues to get worse instead of better, then Rice may not be such a good pick.

 

I'm not predicting a return to being a top 3 RB but top 10 is possible. I just wouldnt draft him in the first round unless it's PPR rules. Even then, it would be a late first rounder.

 

If you get him in round 3 or later in any format I'd say you got a steal.

I hope round 4. I don't want to pass up Gronk or Cobb in the third for him.

[swirvenirvin 25]

Did everyone forget how awful he was last yr? What was it 3.4 ypa? Yeah top 10 RB's dont avg 3.4 per attempt regardless of how bad the Oline is.

 

Then missing 2 games on top of that. Have fun drafting him in the 3rd round.

 

Only saving grace is what others mentioned in Kubiak

[BufordT 371]

Did everyone forget how awful he was last yr? What was it 3.4 ypa? Yeah top 10 RB's dont avg 3.4 per attempt regardless of how bad the Oline is.

 

Then missing 2 games on top of that. Have fun drafting him in the 3rd round.

 

Only saving grace is what others mentioned in Kubiak

True, but Bernard Pierce was worse. 2.9 ypc.

[$epphori$ 118]

it amazes me at how many of you are drinking the ray rice Kool-aide

Let them, every league needs a few morons