Ever played in a league that had a true flex?

[kilroy69 993]

the option to play any player in the flex spot? qb,wr,rb,te

[giraldi02 470]

Superflex?

[vrabinec 19]

In that case, you always treat it like a two QB league, and get your QB's early. Four out of your first five picks in those leagues should be 2 QB's and 2 RB's, because those guys will run out quickly. Guys will hoard QB's, and you'll end up with Matt Cassel as one of your starters.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

In that case, you always treat it like a two QB league, and get your QB's early. Four out of your first five picks in those leagues should be 2 QB's and 2 RB's, because those guys will run out quickly. Guys will hoard QB's, and you'll end up with Matt Cassel as one of your starters.

I've played in these leagues before and waiting to grab QB's will absolutely kill you. In the first round, 8 QB's were selected in a 12 team league. After the third round, you are drafting Chad Henne, Matt Cassel and backups. lol Some guys were drafting QB/QB/QB. They know they will score enough with two top QB's, so taking the third is a profound way to end another owner's season before it starts. You can't win those leagues without at least one Superstar QB. A friend of mine thought he would be ok drafting one good QB and then waiting on a second. He had a pretty solid roster, but ended up not making the playoffs last season. The teams that did, used a QB at the Superflex and dominated.

[weepaws 2,452]

No never have been in a league with a super flex . But I agree with the post above . I am in two leagues that use two starting QBS and you do want to draft them early .

[Herbivore 904]

My main league has played this way for years. It does lend to playing the Qb at the flex, but not always. Our draft will typically have about 12 Qbs taken in the first 2 rounds, 3 to 4 taken in the next 3 rounds, and the bottom of the barrel starters in the next 5 to 6 rounds. We do max our positions with QB at 3, I think rb 5, wr 6, te/k/d at 3?. Which is really then guarding hoarding Qbs. If you have 3, and 1's on a bye, you still have a debate to play Cassel or Ponder and your rb 3 or wr 3. And if you only have 2...hope they don't have the same bye week. I think the best thing that this style does is open up the draft, and put the proper emphasis on the Qb.

[southcarolina 166]

I played in a league last year that started a QB and TWO superflex spots. Yes, i started three QBs, and yes it was freeking insane.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Why not just play in an all qb league where you only start qbs? A format that lets you start 2 qbs is silly and not even trying to resemble a real football team. theres a format I invented that I have never tried tho that lets you utilize 2 qbs. Essentially you start a qb as normal, but you can "pull" him and essentially turn him off while activating another qb and from that point the other guys stats start counting. You can only do it once a game. Its like benching your starter for a backup.

[southcarolina 166]

Why not just play in an all qb league where you only start qbs? A format that lets you start 2 qbs is silly and not even trying to resemble a real football team

 

 

Do you not play Monopoly because it doesnt accurately portray real estate transactions as they occur in real life? FF is a game, and its supposed to be fun. Sometimes doing unrealistic silly things is fun. Most of the other players in my 3 QB league last year hated it, and the league wont be back. But i loved it. It was stupid and crazy and most times adhered to no logic whatsoever. But it was like being on a giant Fantasy Football roller coaster.with a blindfold on.Sometimes it made me laugh, sometimes it made me cry. But it was always fun. Didnt hurt that i won the championship too

[Herbivore 904]

Why not just play in an all qb league where you only start qbs? A format that lets you start 2 qbs is silly and not even trying to resemble a real football team. theres a format I invented that I have never tried tho that lets you utilize 2 qbs. Essentially you start a qb as normal, but you can "pull" him and essentially turn him off while activating another qb and from that point the other guys stats start counting. You can only do it once a game. Its like benching your starter for a backup.

 

fantasy football teams never resemble a real football team.

[tanatastic 2,061]

 

fantasy football teams never resemble a real football team.

Cmon dude dont split hairs, you know what I mean. 1qb 2wr 2rb 1te k dst has a feeling of a real nfl team, im not saying its the exact literal definition of the same. At least compared to 2qbs. How do you picture 2 qbs on the same field throwing passes? It just looks and feels silly.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Do you not play Monopoly because it doesnt accurately portray real estate transactions as they occur in real life? FF is a game, and its supposed to be fun. Sometimes doing unrealistic silly things is fun. Most of the other players in my 3 QB league last year hated it, and the league wont be back. But i loved it. It was stupid and crazy and most times adhered to no logic whatsoever. But it was like being on a giant Fantasy Football roller coaster.with a blindfold on.Sometimes it made me laugh, sometimes it made me cry. But it was always fun. Didnt hurt that i won the championship too

I see your analogy but id actually argue the other way and say I play monopoly because it DOES accurately reflect real estate to a degree that I find fun in a board game. I hand over money and get a property, whats so unreal about that? Scrutinizing deeper is just splitting hairs as I said above. But I get your point. However, you actually made my arguments for me with the rest of your post. The majority of your league hated it and it wont be back, plus you described it as stupid and crazy. So I guess the prosecution rests, you already made my points for me. Beyond that, yea its supposed to be fun so have fun however you want, and as I said, why not just have an all qb team, or an all kicker league at that point. That would be stupid and crazy as well. It was simply my opinion (and the rest of your league) that felt it was a little extreme, but FF allows freedom and that shouldnt be denied to anyone.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

 

fantasy football teams never resemble a real football team.

I disagree. I've been in salary cap dynasty leagues where it was insanely close to being a real GM. You could sign a player to 5 year contracts, had an increasing salary cap based on the increase of the NFL's actual cap, increasing yearly salaries but had the ability to offset some of that with a "signing bonus" paid out however you determined, stuck you with penalties against the cap if you released/traded a player with salary remaining on his contract, charged you -6 points if your QB threw a pick that was returned for a TD and charged any of your offensive players -6 if they fumbled and it was returned for a TD. It was the most fun league I have ever been a part of and lasted about 12 years, until some of the guys got too old and didn't have time anymore. We had a practice squad (taxi squad) consisting of five players and three IR slots. We even had compensatory rookie picks at the end of the third and fourth rounds of the rookie draft each year if the free agent they lost signed elsewhere. It was as close as we'll ever get to becoming real GM's.

 

I agree that 2 QB leagues are insanely silly. My work has a totally bogus fantasy league where you get points for absurd things. A RB gets extra points based on his yards after contact, the QB gets one point per pass completion, the WR's get double points for rushing plays and the defensive scoring is insane. A shutout is 30 points and defensive TD's are 12 points. I won't play in the league as it's just too stupid. Playing in too many different scoring formats usually leads me into trouble as I confuse one with another and screw up my important leagues.

[weepaws 2,452]

LOL it's called fantasy football for a reason , and changing league formats is a great thing. Being in a league that does the same setup every season gets boring . Change is good keeps me on top of my game .

[dehaven123 31]

superflex or 2qb leagues are lotsa fun.

fact is, in today's world of FF, it's pretty easy in a 12tm league for every owner to have a startable quality QB pretty much from pretty much anywhere in the draft or auction.

now, when u need to have 2qbs, things change a little bit and more strategy is required. things can get slim after 20qbs are off the bored.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

Do you not play Monopoly because it doesnt accurately portray real estate transactions as they occur in real life? FF is a game, and its supposed to be fun. Sometimes doing unrealistic silly things is fun. Most of the other players in my 3 QB league last year hated it, and the league wont be back. But i loved it. It was stupid and crazy and most times adhered to no logic whatsoever. But it was like being on a giant Fantasy Football roller coaster.with a blindfold on.Sometimes it made me laugh, sometimes it made me cry. But it was always fun. Didnt hurt that i won the championship too

I refuse to play the following games based on reality:

 

Monopoly - Because a camel cannot own Boardwalk.

Life - It's not anything like life. Where is the racism card? What about the 'go to rehab' card?

Battleship - Really? How can I blow up your battleship and not take out the ships directly next to it? Ever heard of radar?

Hungry hungry hippos - I refuse to feed into the obesity epidimic in this nation.

Clue - Let's just teach all youth how to dispose of the bodies correctly.....

Operation - Teaching kids to become the next 'Dexter' for forty years.....

Hangman - Figure out my word or DIE!!!!

Whac A Mole - Having issues? Nothing a hammer over the head won't cure.

 

Kids games - Destroying America one mind at a time.

[southcarolina 166]

I see your analogy but id actually argue the other way and say I play monopoly because it DOES accurately reflect real estate to a degree that I find fun in a board game. I hand over money and get a property, whats so unreal about that? Scrutinizing deeper is just splitting hairs as I said above.

 

 

Ive only been a part of a few real estate transactions in my life, and all of them have included reams of paperwork and signing my name until my hand hurt. I would argue that the Monopoly version of "real estate" is over simplified to the point of absurdity. And dont even get me started on the whole Penal System in that game. Totally not how going to jail works in real life.

 

 

But I get your point. However, you actually made my arguments for me with the rest of your post. The majority of your league hated it and it wont be back, plus you described it as stupid and crazy. So I guess the prosecution rests, you already made my points for me. Beyond that, yea its supposed to be fun so have fun however you want, and as I said, why not just have an all qb team, or an all kicker league at that point. That would be stupid and crazy as well. It was simply my opinion (and the rest of your league) that felt it was a little extreme, but FF allows freedom and that shouldnt be denied to anyone.

My only point was that different people like different things. Play in whatever leagues you want to, and i'll do the same.

[kilroy69 993]

so does being able to use a 2nd qb devalue any of the other positions?

[Herbivore 904]

Cmon dude dont split hairs, you know what I mean. 1qb 2wr 2rb 1te k dst has a feeling of a real nfl team, im not saying its the exact literal definition of the same. At least compared to 2qbs. How do you picture 2 qbs on the same field throwing passes? It just looks and feels silly.

 

I'm splitting hairs, but you're imagining 2 qbs on the field at once? I get you with the concept of the traditional fantasy lineup, and then with the flex being rb/wr/te as a nfl offense does mix up its packages that way. But when you had the traditional set up, you could virtually guarantee a RB heavy draft, and therefore almost no strategy. PPR opened up the draft to even out the scoring between the wr and rb, and te to a lesser degree. Adding Qb to the flex completely opens up the draft, and like I said earlier puts the proper emphasis on Qb in the draft. Everyone would say Peyton is more important to Denver than Montee Ball, but in a rb/wr/te flex league, Ball is taken ahead of him. Does that make sense?

 

U C T - that just sounds like too much work.

[kilroy69 993]

does the rb2 lose even more value in a format like this. would qb qb rb be a safe bet

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

does the rb2 lose even more value in a format like this. would qb qb rb be a safe bet

I wouldnt pass up on a stud receiver just to get a rb.

[Mr Neil 63]

I've been in a dual flex league for quite some time now in a 12 teamer and it has been mostly all rbs and qbs in first two rds. They also hold the highest value in terms of trade bait as well. I draft 3-4 qbs total. I try to hit on later gems so I can have some trade bait. This year in hoping to get teddy bridgewater around the 9th round if that explains how quickly qbs come off the board. Ideally I would like a top 5 qb then an Eli Big Ben type and then two shots in the dark like Matt schaub and teddy B later in the draft

[Mr Neil 63]

Also another trick I pull I forgot to mention is look at the backups of an oft injured qb. I took Foles last round of the draft and just waited and struck gold. Think like that. McCown is another that would have been along those lines. Thad Lewis as well

[Big Dog NJ 11]

tanatastic- 2 qb league may not fir your definition of fantasy football but answer me this, why would you want 20 qbs on the sidelines not contributing to the scoring in a standard 12 team league? The qb is easily the most imp position and 2 qb league or 1 qb plus 1 OP makes for a better draft and obviously includes all of the qbs. Our league in it's 11th yr will never change and I am in favor of the 3 qb rule mentioned along the way, you can add another if one goes on the IR

[kilroy69 993]

I ended up doing this last year. Something like 15 of the top 20 scorers were qbs. I'm doing it again this year and adding a 10 point bonus for 100 yards rushing. As it really did devalue the rb position last year

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

tanatastic- 2 qb league may not fir your definition of fantasy football but answer me this, why would you want 20 qbs on the sidelines not contributing to the scoring in a standard 12 team league? The qb is easily the most imp position and 2 qb league or 1 qb plus 1 OP makes for a better draft and obviously includes all of the qbs. Our league in it's 11th yr will never change and I am in favor of the 3 qb rule mentioned along the way, you can add another if one goes on the IR

Meh. I could argue there are dozens of rbs sitting on benches doing nothing and a ton more on the ww doing nothing as well.

[sontzu 0]

Quarterback is the most important offensive position in football. 2-qb and super flex leagues accurately reflect this. Plus it adds so much more strategy and depth into the fantasy game. The way the current standard game is structured, u just wait on the qb position and are guaranteed a top 12 player at the position. So easy a caveman can do it

[weepaws 2,452]

Quarterback is the most important offensive position in football. 2-qb and super flex leagues accurately reflect this. Plus it adds so much more strategy and depth into the fantasy game. The way the current standard game is structured, u just wait on the qb position and are guaranteed a top 12 player at the position. So easy a caveman can do it

Lol great post me yea I agree two QB leagues do make the draft a lot more interesting .

[zac3434 5]

What is a true flex?? It's not one that allows any position, because that wouldn't be a flex, it would be an additional starting qb.

[kilroy69 993]

What is a true flex?? It's not one that allows any position, because that wouldn't be a flex, it would be an additional starting qb.

not true. On any given day because of - points for picks and heavy - points for pick 6s a any of the skill positions could outscore a qb. Phillip rivers had a game last year where he scored 5 points.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

True flex is also beneficial because you can start another positional player should 1 of your QBs get injured. You aren't completely toast like you would be in a true 2 QB league. I run a 12 team PPR Super Flex league. The league was ok until we added the super flex last year and now everyone seems to love the format.

[kilroy69 993]

It spurred trading in my league last year because of the different tactics and holes that needed to be filled we had 27 trades. not one was fishy.

[Aaron Rudnicki 9]

the option to play any player in the flex spot? qb,wr,rb,te

 

Those ^^^ are called these vvv

 

Superflex?