Took Ace Advice and took 3 wr first 3 rounds...

[hopolb33 0]

Here is the team I ended up with again I went 3 wr first 3 picks I am in a 12 team ppr league drafted in the 11 hole....

Qb-Peyton manning,Andrew Luck

Wr-Julio Jones ,Brandon Marshal , Hakeem Nicks,Reggie Wayne

Rb-Reggie Bush,Donald Brown,Spiller,David Wilson,Micheal Bush,Isaih Pead

Te-Aron Hernandez,RudolphIph

I think the strategy went pretty good rb look real bad but strong every where else tell me what you guys think....

[Ace08 11]

If your league is on ESPN and McCluster is still available I'd grab him for your bench. He still has Rb eligibility on ESPN and the word is he'll be manning the slot position for KC full time this year. Could be a decent PPR plug in for bye weeks later on.

 

I'd keep an eye on Tanner as well. The 2 guys in front of him are about as brittle as it comes. I'd be shocked if he doesn't become the starter at some point in the year.

[hopolb33 0]

If your league is on ESPN and McCluster is still available I'd grab him for your bench. He still has Rb eligibility on ESPN and the word is he'll be manning the slot position for KC full time this year. Could be a decent PPR plug in for bye weeks later on.

 

I'd keep an eye on Tanner as well. The 2 guys in front of him are about as brittle as it comes. I'd be shocked if he doesn't become the starter at some point in the year.

Thanx bro for all the help

[idiotec 31]

It's only money....

[hopolb33 0]

It's only money....

??? So how would you rank my team?

[Kent 228]

??? So how would you rank my team?

 

Uncompetitive out of 10.

[hopolb33 0]

Uncompetitive out of 10.

lol damn thanx bro for the honest input

[jeffkomlo 19]

Here is the team I ended up with again I went 3 wr first 3 picks I am in a 12 team ppr league drafted in the 11 hole....

Qb-Peyton manning,Andrew Luck

Wr-Julio Jones ,Brandon Marshal , Hakeem Nicks,Reggie Wayne

Rb-Reggie Bush,Donald Brown,Spiller,David Wilson,Micheal Bush,Isaih Pead

Te-Aron Hernandez,RudolphIph

I think the strategy went pretty good rb look real bad but strong every where else tell me what you guys think....

 

Hernandez in 4th? HMMMM

[swirvenirvin 25]

Yeah thats not such a good team.. Sorry for the bad news

[ian Potter 9]

WRs are nice. You foolishly followed that draft strategy. You def need an RB in the first 3 rounds. I could see going WR-WR but there is such a drop off after 3rd/4th rd. Not impressed with the RB's after round four other than Martin (not likely to be there), Hillis, and possibly Benson. There are some nice late round fliers with upside but none I currently want to own and start. You could have easily had a quality 3rd WR like Wayne, T Smith, or some guy with upside like T Young, K Wright, Blackmon, etc.

 

I'd burn one of your WR's other than Jones for a QUALITY RB! Rest of your team is nice. Good QB and Good/Great TE if Hernandez scores like he's projected.

[montana 89]

I won't state the obvious here - its already been said.

 

You will most likely have to package a WR & RB to upgrade at RB.

 

Good luck.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Here is the team I ended up with again I went 3 wr first 3 picks I am in a 12 team ppr league drafted in the 11 hole....

Qb-Peyton manning,Andrew Luck

Wr-Julio Jones ,Brandon Marshal , Hakeem Nicks,Reggie Wayne

Rb-Reggie Bush,Donald Brown,Spiller,David Wilson,Micheal Bush,Isaih Pead

Te-Aron Hernandez,RudolphIph

I think the strategy went pretty good rb look real bad but strong every where else tell me what you guys think....

I am an advocate of drafting wr early but you didnt do it right imo. I would have drafted a te for sure in the second round. Also i may have drafted a rb in the third depending on who was there. You are cornering your team into only 1 position of tru strength which limits its potential. I dont think your rb will be as bad as others may think. Your te is solid but not as good as gronk or graham. If you dont draft one of the top 2 te you might as well wait and grab more talent at other positions.

 

One wr that i like better tham bmarsh or nicks is harvin. If you could have at least paired up julio with a better wr your team may have had a chance. I like bmarsh in ppr as i am a bears fan, but i just dont see him putting up top 5 stats. That o line combined with marshalls low td totals and the bears historically low td totals for wr make me believe he will not perform up to most peoples standards.

[p00h 85]

WRs are so deep this year, and will be every year moving forward based on how pass happy the league is. You can get a guy like VJax in like the 5th round who can/will challenge the likes of Nicks for equal production. I personally am of the opposite philosophy in terms of WRs, not going to take one for the 1st 4 rounds unless an absolute steal is just sitting there for me. I mean Marshall and Nicks in 2nd and 3rd is not the way to go. I'd rather get a qb and a TE in the top 3 if you're averse to going rb. Not gonna be an easy year my man...stay thirsty...

[Law 220]

I don't understand the idea of setting a draft strategy before you know your draft position. I don't have a single league where I know my draft position beforehand. Where you are in round one, it seems to me, determines what position you end up.

 

As for you picking 11 out of 12 and going WR first three, I think that was poor strategy. I wouldn't have gone WR in the first unless I could get Megatron. I'm not sure who you got in the first as all three WRs are about the same. I have them all between 8 and 11. That you got three, roughly, top 10 WRs is solid, but the cost was not much more than Hernandez and maybe Peyton (who I fear is one wrong hit from done).

 

Perhaps Peyton can get his head on straight and the your 3 WRs and Hernandez can carry you, but I don't think so. Your RBs are just too dicey. Bush and Brown play on very bad teams who won't be able to run much, Spiller and Wilson are backups who need an injury to play enough to help you, and Bush is much the same (though he will be a TD guy).

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

oof. your RB's make me . better luck next year

[Kent 228]

lol damn thanx bro for the honest input

 

Sorry man. Your #1 RB is Donald Brown. Backed up by Bush.

 

You need Fred Jackson to break a leg again to have anything at RB.

 

And I'm not even convinced you have a huge weekly advantage at WR. Maybe if you had Calvin.

 

Good luck this year.

[p00h 85]

Sorry man. Your #1 RB is Donald Brown. Backed up by Bush.

 

You need Fred Jackson to break a leg again to have anything at RB.

 

And I'm not even convinced you have a huge weekly advantage at WR. Maybe if you had Calvin.

 

Good luck this year.

 

 

he absolutely does not. All 3 of those wr's will be matched in production by a couple of guys that are going 5th round or later. THe league is so crazy with passing that a lot of mid tier to no name WRs will challenge for the top 10 at the position. I'm of the belief that even taking megatron early is a waste. And Julio suddenly becoming the 2nd rated wr?!? not buying it at all. Not saying he wont produce, but others will produce to his level...

[PATSSOX 22]

Here is the team I ended up with again I went 3 wr first 3 picks I am in a 12 team ppr league drafted in the 11 hole....

Qb-Peyton manning,Andrew Luck

Wr-Julio Jones ,Brandon Marshal , Hakeem Nicks,Reggie Wayne

Rb-Reggie Bush,Donald Brown,Spiller,David Wilson,Micheal Bush,Isaih Pead

Te-Aron Hernandez,RudolphIph

I think the strategy went pretty good rb look real bad but strong every where else tell me what you guys think....

 

Hopefully league entry fee was not very much. On scale of 1-10 id give it maybe a -1. You could get the same production or close to it with WR's you could have draft 3-4 rounds later. And dont have a RB1 or RB2.

 

Luckily you are high on the waiver cause you better pray you can get your hands on a RB.

[SameSongNDance 0]

I'm confused why anyone would give advice to take WRs early when the WR pool is arguably the deepest it's ever been this year. With dudes like Maclin, Bowe, Stevie Johnson, Lloyd, Colston all going in the 5th/6th round, you could easily wait on WRs. You can essentially wait until the 5th round to start drafting WRs and form a core like this..

 

5th - Colston/Lloyd/Decker/Wallace

 

6th - Maclin/Bowe/Stevie Johnson

 

7th - Vjax/Austin/Wayne/Garcon

 

I wouldn't mind having one WR from each of these rounds on my roster. Darn, that was some bad advice.

[xxxdog 23]

Bad advice, your team is headed to the Toilet Bowl.....Only positive at RB is if Bradshaw goes on I.R. and Wilson starts, Bush & Brown are mainly bye week starters, not even considered 2nd tier R.B.'s.....You could have easily drafted a couple solid RB's then in round 3-6 obtained useful receivers like A. Brown, Harvin, Decker, V. Jackson, Maclin , Colston or T Smith types.....Your draft in one word TRADE......

[SameSongNDance 0]

Bad advice, your team is headed to the Toilet Bowl.....Only positive at RB is if Bradshaw goes on I.R. and Wilson starts, Bush & Brown are mainly bye week starters, not even considered 2nd tier R.B.'s.....You could have easily drafted a couple solid RB's then in round 3-6 obtained useful receivers like A. Brown, Harvin, Decker, V. Jackson, Maclin , Colston or T Smith types.....Your draft in one word TRADE......

 

Although his RBs are rather weak, lets not over exaggerate here. Bush finished 13th overall in 1PPR last year making him a very high-end RB2. I'm not sure what you consider "2nd tier" but you may want to re-evaluate your tier system.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Best part is that fantasy and the nfl is a dice roll and dart board every year. No one knew ___ would lead th league last year and no one thought ____ would score 15 Tds that year. Literally ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Donald brown could lead the league, pead could break out and be next years top 3 pick.

 

No one is out of it, and nobody knows what will happen.

 

All we know is how to rank players the best we can with the information we have and give the best chances at success. Just field a team with guys that will probably see some playin time and you could win your league as easy as anyone else.

[Ace08 11]

Hop,

 

You followed the strategy I just think you overpaid slightly for some of the guys you took.

 

I took 3 WR's within my first 4 picks in all 3 of my big money leagues...in all 3 leagues Marshall made it back to me in the 3rd round. It looks to me like you took him in the 2nd round and Nicks in the 3rd. I would have gone Fitz or even Andre in the 2nd and taken one of either Marshall or Nicks in the 3rd, followed by Gates (unless he went early in your league).

 

Couple of questions -

 

1. I'm assuming you took Hernandez in the 4th...was Gates already gone at this point?

2. Either you drafted with a bunch of sharks or the majority of guys went rb heavy all draft long. I was able to secure at least 3 of the Ridley, Kevin Smith, Hillis, McGahee, Benson tier in all 3 of my drafts because most people went WR heavy in the middle rounds after going rb heavy in the first 3. I was zigging when everyone else was zagging and felt it worked as well as ever.

 

I'd be curious to see the whole draft to see what you took where relative to who was on the board.

 

But to those knocking the strategy...it absolutely works in ppr leagues. I've had great success with it over the last 5 years. The whole "WR is deep" argument is a mirage. No way the Colston's of the world are going to present the same week to week elite production of a Julio, Fitz, Calvin, or Andre. I'm not going to get into this never ending argument again but I'll go on record (again, for like the 3rd year in a row now) as saying perceived "value" at wr in the ff community is WAY OFF again this year.

[hopolb33 0]

Here is how my draft went again I drafted out of the 11 spot…Round 1

1. Ray Rice

(Bal - RB)

PRIMETIME

2. Arian Foster

(Hou - RB)

Steel is Real

3. LeSean McCoy

(Phi - RB)

da boys in p...

4. Darren Sproles

(NO - RB)

RamRod Jr

5. Darren McFadden

(Oak - RB)

real men wea...

6. Drew Brees

(NO - QB)

Team Unibrow

7. Tom Brady

(NE - QB)

Bombarders

8. Chris Johnson

(Ten - RB)

Layla's Lions

9. Aaron Rodgers

(GB - QB)

ravens suck

10. Calvin Johnson

(Det - WR)

ahhh!shitson

11. Julio Jones

(Atl - WR)

HOPKINS

12. Matt Forte

(Chi - RB)

The Champ Is...

Round 2

1. Cam Newton

(Car - QB)

The Champ Is...

2. Brandon Marshall

(Chi - WR)

HOPKINS

3. DeMarco Murray

(Dal - RB)

ahhh!shitson

4. Steven Jackson

(StL - RB)

ravens suck

5. Larry Fitzgerald

(Ari - WR)

Layla's Lions

6. Fred Jackson

(Buf - RB)

Bombarders

7. Ahmad Bradshaw

(NYG - RB)

Team Unibrow

8. Roddy White

(Atl - WR)

real men wea...

9. Wes Welker

(NE - WR)

RamRod Jr

10. Rob Gronkowski

(NE - TE)

da boys in p...

11. Eli Manning

(NYG - QB)

Steel is Real

12. Jamaal Charles

(KC - RB)

PRIMETIME

Round 3

1. A.J. Green

(Cin - WR)

PRIMETIME

2. Andre Johnson

(Hou - WR)

Steel is Real

3. Ryan Mathews

(SD - RB)

da boys in p...

4. Matthew Stafford

(Det - QB)

RamRod Jr

5. Matt Schaub

(Hou - QB)

real men wea...

6. Greg Jennings

(GB - WR)

Team Unibrow

7. Jimmy Graham

(NO - TE)

Bombarders

8. Maurice Jones-Drew

(Jac - RB)

Layla's Lions

9. Adrian Peterson

(Min - RB)

ravens suck

10. Marshawn Lynch

(Sea - RB)

ahhh!shitson

11. Hakeem Nicks

(NYG - WR)

HOPKINS

12. Victor Cruz

(NYG - WR)

The Champ Is...

Round 4

1. Doug Martin

(TB - RB)

The Champ Is...

2. Reggie Bush

(Mia - RB)

HOPKINS

3. Jordy Nelson

(GB - WR)

ahhh!shitson

4. Marques Colston

(NO - WR)

ravens suck

5. Steve Smith

(Car - WR)

Layla's Lions

6. Michael Turner

(Atl - RB)

Bombarders

7. Percy Harvin

(Min - WR)

Team Unibrow

8. Stevan Ridley

(NE - RB)

real men wea...

9. Frank Gore

(SF - RB)

RamRod Jr

10. Trent Richardson

(Cle - RB)

da boys in p...

11. Peyton Hillis

(KC - RB)

Steel is Real

12. Michael Vick

(Phi - QB)

PRIMETIME

Round 5

1. DeSean Jackson

(Phi - WR)

PRIMETIME

2. Mike Wallace

(Pit - WR)

Steel is Real

3. Dez Bryant

(Dal - WR)

da boys in p...

4. Vernon Davis

(SF - TE)

RamRod Jr

5. Jacob Tamme

(Den - TE)

real men wea...

6. Willis McGahee

(Den - RB)

Team Unibrow

7. Stevie Johnson

(Buf - WR)

Bombarders

8. Matt Ryan

(Atl - QB)

Layla's Lions

9. Eric Decker

(Den - WR)

ravens suck

10. Antonio Gates

(SD - TE)

ahhh!shitson

11. Aaron Hernandez

(NE - TE)

HOPKINS

12. Brandon Lloyd

(NE - WR)

The Champ Is...

Round 6

1. Torrey Smith

(Bal - WR)

The Champ Is...

2. Peyton Manning

(Den - QB)

HOPKINS

3. Philip Rivers

(SD - QB)

ahhh!shitson

4. BenJarvus Green-Ellis

(Cin - RB)

ravens suck

5. Brandon Pettigrew

(Det - TE)

Layla's Lions

6. Demaryius Thomas

(Den - WR)

Bombarders

7. Antonio Brown

(Pit - WR)

Team Unibrow

8. Robert Meachem

(SD - WR)

real men wea...

9. Anquan Boldin

(Bal - WR)

RamRod Jr

10. Vincent Jackson

(TB - WR)

da boys in p...

11. Jermichael Finley

(GB - TE)

Steel is Real

12. Roy Helu

(Was - RB)

PRIMETIME

Round 7

1. Miles Austin

(Dal - WR)

PRIMETIME

2. Tony Romo

(Dal - QB)

Steel is Real

3. Jeremy Maclin

(Phi - WR)

da boys in p...

4. Jonathan Stewart

(Car - RB)

RamRod Jr

5. Kevin Smith

(Det - RB)

real men wea...

6. Malcom Floyd

(SD - WR)

Team Unibrow

7. Justin Blackmon

(Jac - WR)

Bombarders

8. Dwayne Bowe

(KC - WR)

Layla's Lions

9. Reggie Wayne

(Ind - WR)

ravens suck

10. Shonn Greene

(NYJ - RB)

ahhh!shitson

11. Donald Brown

(Ind - RB)

HOPKINS

12. Rashad Jennings

(Jac - RB)

The Champ Is...

Round 8

1. LeGarrette Blount

(TB - RB)

The Champ Is...

2. C.J. Spiller

(Buf - RB)

HOPKINS

3. Kenny Britt

(Ten - WR)

ahhh!shitson

4. Toby Gerhart

(Min - RB)

ravens suck

5. Cedric Benson

(GB - RB)

Layla's Lions

6. Beanie Wells

(Ari - RB)

Bombarders

7. Fred Davis

(Was - TE)

Team Unibrow

8. Mike Williams

(TB - WR)

real men wea...

9. Isaac Redman

(Pit - RB)

RamRod Jr

10. Ben Roethlisberger

(Pit - QB)

da boys in p...

11. Pierre Thomas

(NO - RB)

Steel is Real

12. Mark Ingram

(NO - RB)

PRIMETIME

Round 9

1. Pierre Garcon

(Was - WR)

PRIMETIME

2. Kellen Winslow

(Sea - TE)

Steel is Real

3. DeAngelo Williams

(Car - RB)

da boys in p...

4. Lance Moore

(NO - WR)

RamRod Jr

5. Josh Freeman

(TB - QB)

real men wea...

6. Joe Flacco

(Bal - QB)

Team Unibrow

7. Darrius Heyward-Bey

(Oak - WR)

Bombarders

8. Michael Crabtree

(SF - WR)

Layla's Lions

9. Ben Tate

(Hou - RB)

ravens suck

10. Sidney Rice

(Sea - WR)

ahhh!shitson

11. David Wilson

(NYG - RB)

HOPKINS

12. Jason Witten

(Dal - TE)

The Champ Is…

 

I got hernandez in the 5th didnt want to reach for a rb cause hillis was gone and there was no quality there in rb to take in the 5th so I thought hernandez was a good value pick there...

[Beer Me Please 1]

I too have adopted the WR first philosophy in PPR leagues the last few years. And it can absolutely work. Outside of the big three RBs, the first couple of rounds is a minefield that I would rather avoid. Question marks everywhere. I'd rather load up on WRs early, then take a bunch of RBs in the middle rounds, and hope that a couple pan out.

 

Like Ace said, the deep wide receiver argument is a fallacy. The top WRs will produce good to great numbers almost every week. The middle rounders will produce average to good numbers most of the time, with the occasional great week.

 

With that said, I don't think the team Hop put together is all that bad. Nothing wrong with the Julio-Marshall combo. They could both legitimately finish in the top 10. I'm not sold on Nicks, and probably would have gone Cruz, but, still not too bad. Depth at RB could be an issue, but, I see Bush and Brown finishing in the top 20 RBs possibly. Both are pretty good receivers (PPR remember) and neither have much competition for touches. Possibly two top 20 RBs. WAY too much emphasis on who someone's #1 RB might be. Obviously, if you take WRs early, you won't have a supposed "stud" name to attach to that #1 RB.

 

Thinking that one MUST take RBs early is an outdated concept. This is a passing league now and with too many RB question marks and too much RBBC.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Hop,

 

You followed the strategy I just think you overpaid slightly for some of the guys you took.

 

I took 3 WR's within my first 4 picks in all 3 of my big money leagues...in all 3 leagues Marshall made it back to me in the 3rd round. It looks to me like you took him in the 2nd round and Nicks in the 3rd. I would have gone Fitz or even Andre in the 2nd and taken one of either Marshall or Nicks in the 3rd, followed by Gates (unless he went early in your league).

 

Couple of questions -

 

1. I'm assuming you took Hernandez in the 4th...was Gates already gone at this point?

2. Either you drafted with a bunch of sharks or the majority of guys went rb heavy all draft long. I was able to secure at least 3 of the Ridley, Kevin Smith, Hillis, McGahee, Benson tier in all 3 of my drafts because most people went WR heavy in the middle rounds after going rb heavy in the first 3. I was zigging when everyone else was zagging and felt it worked as well as ever.

 

I'd be curious to see the whole draft to see what you took where relative to who was on the board.

 

But to those knocking the strategy...it absolutely works in ppr leagues. I've had great success with it over the last 5 years. The whole "WR is deep" argument is a mirage. No way the Colston's of the world are going to present the same week to week elite production of a Julio, Fitz, Calvin, or Andre. I'm not going to get into this never ending argument again but I'll go on record (again, for like the 3rd year in a row now) as saying perceived "value" at wr in the ff community is WAY OFF again this year.

I agree with you almost 100% on everything except for what you said about colston. Now colston isnt the talent of fitz or andre or julio or calvin, but he is a very good wr playing with a great qb. Now that meachem is gone his targets will be spread out sending some to colston. If we look at the end of last year as any kind of indication for this year we will see that brees is still going to throw a ton (not something we didnt already know), and brees is very comfortable throwing it to colston down field a lot.

 

If colstons knees can hold up i see a very good year on the horizon. I tried to get him and harvin on as many teams as possible as i think they represented some of the best value in the draft. Another guy is torrey smith but i somehow missed him in every league, consolation was garcon.

[SameSongNDance 0]

Hop,

 

You followed the strategy I just think you overpaid slightly for some of the guys you took.

 

I took 3 WR's within my first 4 picks in all 3 of my big money leagues...in all 3 leagues Marshall made it back to me in the 3rd round. It looks to me like you took him in the 2nd round and Nicks in the 3rd. I would have gone Fitz or even Andre in the 2nd and taken one of either Marshall or Nicks in the 3rd, followed by Gates (unless he went early in your league).

 

Couple of questions -

 

1. I'm assuming you took Hernandez in the 4th...was Gates already gone at this point?

2. Either you drafted with a bunch of sharks or the majority of guys went rb heavy all draft long. I was able to secure at least 3 of the Ridley, Kevin Smith, Hillis, McGahee, Benson tier in all 3 of my drafts because most people went WR heavy in the middle rounds after going rb heavy in the first 3. I was zigging when everyone else was zagging and felt it worked as well as ever.

 

I'd be curious to see the whole draft to see what you took where relative to who was on the board.

 

But to those knocking the strategy...it absolutely works in ppr leagues. I've had great success with it over the last 5 years. The whole "WR is deep" argument is a mirage. No way the Colston's of the world are going to present the same week to week elite production of a Julio, Fitz, Calvin, or Andre. I'm not going to get into this never ending argument again but I'll go on record (again, for like the 3rd year in a row now) as saying perceived "value" at wr in the ff community is WAY OFF again this year.

 

The problem is, when you see QB stats jump like this..

 

2008

 

1. Drew Brees - 5,069 - 34 - 17

2. Aaron Rodgers - 4,038 - 28 - 13

3. Jay Cutler - 4,525 - 25 - 18

4. Philip Rivers - 4,004 - 34 - 11

5. Kurt Warner - 4,582 - 30 - 14

6. Peyton Manning - 4,002 - 27 - 12

7. Donovan McNabb - 3,916 - 23 - 11

8. Matt Cassel - 3,693 - 21 - 11

9. David Garrard - 3,620 - 15 - 13

10. Chad Pennington - 3,653 - 19 - 7

 

2009

 

1. Aaron Rodgers - 4,434 - 30 - 7

2. Drew Brees - 4,388 - 34 -11

3. Matt Schaub - 4,770 - 29 - 15

4. Peyton Manning - 4,500 - 33 - 16

5. Brett Favre - 4,202 - 33 - 7

6. Tom Brady - 4,398 - 28 - 13

7. Tony Romo - 4,483 - 26 - 9

8. Ben Roethlisberger - 4,328 - 26 - 12

9. Philip Rivers - 4,254 - 28 - 9

10. Eli Manning - 4,021 - 27 - 14

 

2010

 

1. Michael Vick - 3,018 - 21 - 6

2. Aaron Rodgers - 3,922 - 28 - 11

3. Tom Brady - 3,900 - 36 - 4

4. Peyton Manning - 4,700 - 33 - 17

5. Philip Rivers - 4,710 - 30 - 13

6. Drew Brees - 4,620 - 33 - 22

7 . Josh Freeman - 3,451 - 25 - 6

8. Eli Manning - 4,002 - 31 - 25

9. Matt Ryan - 3,706 - 28 - 9

10. Matt Schaub - 4,369 - 24 - 12

 

2011

 

1. Aaron Rodgers - 4,643 - 45 - 6

2. Drew Brees - 5,476 - 46 - 14

3. Cam Newton - 4,051 - 21 - 17

4. Tom Brady - 5,239 - 39 - 12

5. Mathew Stafford - 5,038 - 41 - 16

6. Eli Manning - 4,933 - 29 - 16

7. Tony Romo - 4,184 - 31 - 10

8. Matt Ryan - 4,177 - 29 - 12

9. Philip Rivers - 4,624 - 27 - 20

10. Mark Sanchez - 3,474 - 26 - 18

 

..there's no doubt the WR pool gets deeper. Those extra yards/TDs have to go somewhere right? If what happened last year wasn't a total outlier, the WR pool is indeed deep as hell this year. That coupled with how shallow the RB pool has become and that strategy really does make zero sense.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Here is the team I ended up with again I went 3 wr first 3 picks I am in a 12 team ppr league drafted in the 11 hole....

Qb-Peyton manning,Andrew Luck

Wr-Julio Jones ,Brandon Marshal , Hakeem Nicks,Reggie Wayne

Rb-Reggie Bush,Donald Brown,Spiller,David Wilson,Micheal Bush,Isaih Pead

Te-Aron Hernandez,RudolphIph

I think the strategy went pretty good rb look real bad but strong every where else tell me what you guys think....

Ya know what, i am going to reverse my previous stance. I still think you could have gotten a little better at wr but i think your rb are much better than people are giving you credit for. I absolutely think your team has a shot. If you could have done a few things just a little different i would say your team could have been dominant right off the bat, but dont believe the guys telling you that your team doesnt have a shot. With some solid in season gming you will probably make the playoffs. PM me during the season and tell me how your team is doing. I am curious how it turns out.

[SameSongNDance 0]

Also, to you guys saying it's a passing league, so you should be taking WRs early because they are more reliable, are dead wrong. Since 2009, on average, 58% of the top 20 projected RBs were actually finished in the top 20 by years end (35 of 60). How many WRs, projected in the top 20 actually finished in the top 20 over that same three year span? Again, only 58% (35 of 60). Both positions are equally as volatile in the fantasy world, it just so happens one's a hell of a lot deeper than the other.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Also, to you guys saying it's a passing league, so you should be taking WRs early because they are more reliable, are dead wrong. Since 2009, on average, 58% of the top 20 projected RBs were actually finished in the top 20 by years end (35 of 60). How many WRs, projected in the top 20 actually finished in the top 20 over that same three year span? Again, only 58% (35 of 60). Both positions are equally as volatile in the fantasy world.

Youre correct on that front. One of the variables that shakes it up though is how much more often rbs are injured. Also if you are applying your logic to the draft qb and te are the most consistent positions to remain at the top in scoring. To me this indicates taking qb/te with your first 2 picks is as safe as it gets. To me i have a hard time projecting which rbs will outperform their adp. Its much easier to predict which wr will finish in the top 20. This turns into more of a personal preference, but one that i find more consistent and productive.

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Youre correct on that front. One of the variables that shakes it up though is how much more often rbs are injured. Also if you are applying your logic to the draft qb and te are the most consistent positions to remain at the top in scoring. To me this indicates taking qb/te with your first 2 picks is as safe as it gets. To me i have a hard time projecting which rbs will outperform their adp. Its much easier to predict which wr will finish in the top 20. This turns into more of a personal preference, but one that i find more consistent and productive.

 

Yeah, RBs do have the higher turnover rate but in the end they still somehow finish in the top 20 with the same consistency as WRs. You nailed it with QBs though. QBs are also, week to week, much less likely to "bust". They do represent safety, but that's all they are to me. I'll never condone the strategy of taking a QB in the first round, regardless of these stats, because I think it's much easier to find value later on in the drafts in comparison to each other position. Also, assuming 7-9 of the top 20 projected RBs won't live up to their ADP, at some point you have to trust yourself to tippy-toe around some of the more obvious candidates in the first several rounds such as Turner/Gore who are getting up their in age and have exhibited an obvious slow down or players with extensive injury histories. Anyway, there are more variables to take in account than I can mention but the point remains, statistically, taking WRs in the first several rounds isn't any safer than loading up on RBs. The difference again is that the WR position goes much much deeper from a production stand point. If VBD wasn't a thing, everyone's team would consist of 6 WRs and 2 RBs this year.

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The reason the strategy works is because of the underlying premise that RB's get hurt every 5 minutes.

 

Again....walking out of the first 3 rounds with a WR squad of some combination of the following :

 

Calvin

Julio

Andre

Fitz

Marshall

 

Is going to give you a huge advantage on a week to week basis. Meanwhile history tells you if you take 4-6 handcuffs who are only in 2 way committee's that at least a couple of them will hit.

 

So you get elite production from WR's and TE....moreso than anyone else in your league. Then you supplement that with some of the handcuffs that hit throughout the season. The other angle that isn't being considered is that for every handcuff that hits for you...it's almost a double win because the person who drafted the higher rated "starter" is weakened and unlike you...doesn't have elite NON RB'S to fall back on. For every running back that gets hurt on my squad the effect is minimal since it likely means I'm losing a middle to late round pick....from which it's a lot easier to recover from.

 

Like I said before....the strategy has been absolutely money for me. I've won the championship 3 out of the last 6 years in my big money PPR league and placed in the top 3 in each of the other 3 seasons.

 

As I mentioned in another thread about a month back...I do a TON of research on the middle to late round rb's. If you have another strategy that works for you by all means stick to it....but until I see a reason to go to a more traditional approach I'm going to keep trying to tweak and further improve this strategy even more.

 

About the only thing that can stop/dissuade me from doing this would be multiple people in my league using the same strategy in the same draft. Luckily I only had 1 other guy who did this to me but I could definitely see a situation where you'd be forced to alter the plan if too many people took WR's early.

 

Luckily, most are still entrenched on taking RB's early. As long as that holds true this strategy will continue to work in ppr leagues.

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Just wanted to give you guys a update on my Terrible team... Won first game of year 168-137 and that was with spiller on the bench.... 168 points is not to bad for the worse team ever drafted in fantasy football lol...; )