rrmcguire 36 Posted November 30, 2017 he worth a pickup at all where I would have to drop Booker or Ekeler? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 Over Booker yes. If I'm a Gordon owner and I hold Ekeler as a handcuff, I'd say no. If I just hold Ekeler as a standalone player, then yes I'd drop for Jones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 Mm good question, ppr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,805 Posted November 30, 2017 Hes available in my non ppr....worth a grab? Â Have hunt, mccoy, murray, mixon and henry.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted November 30, 2017 I currently have Kamara, Mixon, Coleman, Burkhead, Ekeler, Booker  Kamara and Mixon my top 2, but Green Bay's schedule for week's 15 and 16 are Carolina and Minnesota Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 Tough decision mm. Â I'm going too say yes for Booker. Â Maybe. Â Lol it's a tough one, because J Wiilams has been very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 Tough decision mm. Â I'm going too say yes for Booker. Â Maybe. Â Lol it's a tough one, because J Wiilams has been very good. I disagree that Williams has played very well. He may have a nice fantasy line last week, but his actual performance was pretty mediocre. Â 21 rushes for 66 yards, 4 receptions for 69 yards was aided by one 54 yard play that was perfectly blocked for him. That on the heels of 18 for 57 the week before and 20 for 67 the week before that. Â Those are not pro level stats, so Williams has done nothing to cement his claim to this job. Who knows how things will shape up, but Jones has actually looked like an NFL starting RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 And I disagree with your disagreement. Â I think he's done a good job. Â Not a great job. Â But that team has been struggling since Rodgers went down. Â And in ppr I think Willams will produce. Â He's good in the passing game. Â Thanks for your reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 30, 2017 And I disagree with your disagreement. Â I think he's done a good job. Â Not a great job. Â But that team has been struggling since Rodgers went down. Â And in ppr I think Willams will produce. Â He's good in the passing game. Â Thanks for your reply Agree. Last week was the first week that Hundley has done anything to make the defenses back off the line even a little bit. Doesn't matter what RB you have, if there's no threat of passing game, there's very little running room. What I saw of Williams was decent against what is a good running defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 And I disagree with your disagreement. Â I think he's done a good job. Â Not a great job. Â But that team has been struggling since Rodgers went down. Â And in ppr I think Willams will put produce him. Â He's good in the passing game. Â Thanks for your reply. Fair enough, but even before Rodgers went down, it was Jones that stole the job from Williams once Monty went down, and Jones looked like a star. Williams supposedly had the inside track, but Jones rendered him essentially useless very quickly. In Jones' first full game starting, he went 19 for 125 and a TD and Williams had one rush for 1 yard. In the first full game without Rodgers, Jones went for 17 rushes for 131 and a TD yards against a much improved New Orleans defense. Williams hasn't come close to a rushing line like that. Â Now Williams may be better as a pass catcher, but Jones has shown that he can be really special already without even needing to catch the ball, so I think its very fair to at least roster Jones and see if he can take the job back ...especially if its only costing you Booker or Ekeler. Â And if it is a full point PPR and thus lean towards Booker or Ekeler, than that's precisely why I don't like PPR. A reception it and of itself is not a productive football accomplishment, so it shouldn't be treated as the equivalent of 10 yards or a sack, but that's a different conversation altogether. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 In the game that Ty Montgomery was injured in, J Williams was the next one up. Â But he was also hurt in that same game, and that's when Jones was given the job, when the other two where hurt. Â And Jones indeed was good, I'm not saying he wasn't. Â All I said was its a tough decision on picking up Jones, because of Williams. Â And its solely based on the fact that, it's hard to trust in any of them going into the playoffs without Rodgers. Â I can see both of them playing, and I think in ppr Williams might be worth more. Â Thanks for the reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 In the game that Ty Montgomery was injured in, J Williams was the next one up. Â But he was also hurt in that same game, and that's when Jones was given the job, when the other two where hurt. Â And Jones indeed as good, I'm not saying he wasn't. Â All I said was its a tough decision on picking up Jones, because of Williams. Â And its solely based on the fact that, it's hard to trust in any of them going into the playoffs without Rodgers. Â I can see both of them playing, and I think in ppr Williams might be worth more. Â Thanks for the reply. and I don't disagree that its hard to trust either going into the playoffs without Rodgers, but the original question was about whether its worth dropping either of Booker or Ekeler to pick up Jones...not whether Jones is a better play than Williams. Similraly, neither of Booker or Ekeler have shown anything to make people think they should be trusted going into the fantasy playoffs. Â thus, I'd personally rather gamble on Jones coming back and stealing the job than hope Booker can become an every week starter or hope Ekeler can carve out enough of a role/Gordon injury to become an every week starter. There's just very little upside right now with either of those 2, and at this point of the season, I want my bench to be high upside guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 Agree, and I also said I would take Jones for Booker. Â But I do have some hesitation in doing so. Â Lol we're on the same page. Â Always a good time posting with you, your very insightful, and I learn a lot from you. Â Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 Agree, and I also said I would take Jones for Booker. Â But I do have some hesitation in doing so. Â Lol we're on the same page. Â Always a good time posting with you. Â Thanks. you too buddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmnutt 8 Posted November 30, 2017 Why so much Aaron Jones hype? He was, and still is the third string RB. What am I missing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted November 30, 2017 Why so much Aaron Jones hype? He was, and still is the third string RB. What am I missing? why do you say he's the 3rd string RB?  when Monty first went down, Jones easily leap frogged Williams and ran away with the starting job when Monty got back, Jones still kept the lead back role and relegated Monty to the #2/pass catching back with both out, Williams has been very underwhelming  what don't you get? I'm not saying Jones will be giving the starting job back, but you at least should be wise enough to realize that if they made it a true "winner take all" competition when everybody is back healthy, that Jones has very likely chance of winning it again. McCarthy likes employing a single back when afforded the opportunity to, so he's not the type of coach that is going to make this a committee. He'd like to see someone step up and run with the job...and Jones certainly has a very good shot to be that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Neil 63 Posted November 30, 2017 Williams is just another backup. Jones is a spark score freak and way better RB in college Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelers2101 7 Posted November 30, 2017 Drop David Johnson and/or Woodhead (already have Collins) for Jones and/or Mike Davis in a shallow standard league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 D J isn't coming back this season, so of course. Â Woodhead is a keep if you like below flex scoring. Â In a ppr I would keep Woodhead and pick up Jones. Â DJ isn't playing again this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmnutt 8 Posted November 30, 2017 Montgomery and Williams were both injured in the same game, which gave way to Jones. So yes he may have leapfrogged, but it was more of being born on third base rather than hitting a triple. So is Jones the pickup even with a healthy Williams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 I would rather have Jones then Booker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted November 30, 2017 If Jones can play for GB, he will be the starter. No question about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted November 30, 2017 looks as though officially limited again today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 30, 2017 Yeah I just read that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,805 Posted November 30, 2017 Would you drop Demarco for him? Not sure I can see playing Henry or Murray if one doesn't get hurt. Â I dunno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted December 1, 2017 No I wouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norcaljeff 1 Posted December 1, 2017 We have 5 slots for RB in my league. Scoring is TD heavy, td=6pts, 25 yds rush or receiving = 1pt. I have Fournette and Kamara, as my starters. Ty Montgomery, TJ Yeldon and Ivory on my bench. Both Aaron Jones and Rex Burkehead are on the wire, what should I do? Who would I drop? Ivory? Swap Montgomery for Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriole8159 86 Posted December 1, 2017 Montgomery and Williams were both injured in the same game, which gave way to Jones. So yes he may have leapfrogged, but it was more of being born on third base rather than hitting a triple. So is Jones the pickup even with a healthy Williams? Â the problem with this logic is that both Williams and Jones were unknowns, and the only real reason that Williams was #2 on the depth chart was because he was drafted in the 4th rd this year while Jones was drafted in the 5th rd. Jones looked better in the preseason even, yet Williams for some reason still got the #2 spot based most likely on that reason. Â thus, when Monty went out, it was essentially a "winner take all" audition for both Williams and Jones, and Jones ran away with it. Williams was not given the lead back role like your simple explanation attests, he would have just gotten the first crack. I was a Monty owner early in the season too and I'm a handcuff believer, and I never handcuffed Williams to Monty because I knew Jones was lurking right behind and could easily be the guy to run away with the job if Monty ever got hurt. Â there's no reason to believe that Williams has earned this job with Jones coming back. now again I'm not saying that Jones will take the starting job or that Williams won't be given a shot to keep either, just that, back to the original point of this thread, its worth adding Jones to see if he can take back instead of rostering Booker or Ekeler. That's a good upside move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crystal Meth Tweekers 26 Posted December 1, 2017 We have 5 slots for RB in my league. Scoring is TD heavy, td=6pts, 25 yds rush or receiving = 1pt. I have Fournette and Kamara, as my starters. Ty Montgomery, TJ Yeldon and Ivory on my bench. Both Aaron Jones and Rex Burkehead are on the wire, what should I do? Who would I drop? Ivory? Swap Montgomery for Jones? Â Â I haven't seen much om Montgomery. Is he back soon? Why 3 Jags RB's? I think if Fournette goes down Ivory gets more carries. Burkehead is a good player he seems to be worth a spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted December 1, 2017 We have 5 slots for RB in my league. Scoring is TD heavy, td=6pts, 25 yds rush or receiving = 1pt. I have Fournette and Kamara, as my starters. Ty Montgomery, TJ Yeldon and Ivory on my bench. Both Aaron Jones and Rex Burkehead are on the wire, what should I do? Who would I drop? Ivory? Swap Montgomery for Jones? I would drop Montgomery and Yeldon. Â Pick up both Jones and Burkhead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 1, 2017 There is little consistent weekly value to be had from the GB ground game.....and has been the case for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrmcguire 36 Posted December 1, 2017 even more interesting now...Ty Montgomery placed on IR...so you're still saying drop Booker rather than Ekeler......Jones' schedule in 15/16 looks a lot tougher than the other two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelers2101 7 Posted December 1, 2017 Note, GB finishes against Carolina and Minnesota weeks 15 and 16. Poor RB matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted December 1, 2017 Monty going to IR could be huge. Hopefully Jones is eased in this week and then takes the backfield over. His game against the Cowboys showed a back far more explosive than Williams. If it goes to a 70/30 or 80/20 split Jones will be a flex play that could tilt games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted December 1, 2017 even more interesting now...Ty Montgomery placed on IR...so you're still saying drop Booker rather than Ekeler......Jones' schedule in 15/16 looks a lot tougher than the other twoI don't understand how the Broncos want too use Booker. Â So I would feel more comfortable with Ekeler. Â Who seems to have found a roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted December 1, 2017 I don't understand how the Broncos want too use Booker. Â So I would feel more comfortable with Ekeler. Â Who seems to have found a roll. I think the upside with Booker is that going into the last couple of weeks they may decide to give him the full load. I think CJ will be a free agent and they don't want him back and the need to know how high they will have to draft an RB or get one in FA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted December 1, 2017 I think the upside with Booker is that going into the last couple of weeks they may decide to give him the full load. I think CJ will be a free agent and they don't want him back and the need to know how high they will have to draft an RB or get one in FA. You know what that's a great point. Â Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedzoneMonster 102 Posted December 3, 2017 Any update on Jones' availability this week? Not a lot of info out there which is kind of surprising. I'd think a lot of J. Williams owners (like myself) are very interested. I can't find anything if he practiced on a "limited basis" or not on Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,805 Posted December 3, 2017 Any update on Jones' availability this week? Not a lot of info out there which is kind of surprising. I'd think a lot of J. Williams owners (like myself) are very interested. I can't find anything if he practiced on a "limited basis" or not on Friday.I have been looking all over myself and can't find anything.He is still on our waivers and I'm trying to find somewhere to add him. Unfortunately I think my worst player that I could even drop is either DeMarco Murray or Derrick Henry. But no I've searched everywhere and can't find anything new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites