Giants' Nicks = Plax who?

It's not the violence, it's everything that I mentioned, the constant replays and too many flags especially. Everything gets reviewed now - every turnover or scoring play gets reviewed, plus coaches challenges, etc. How is it exciting watching a play over and over again on replay, to try to find out if the call is legitimate? It is rare that you have a clear cut play anymore where you get excited about it right away, and you don't have to wait 5 minutes to see if it stands.

The previous play is under review - It seems like every crucial play gets reviewed which takes away from the flow of the game. Part of me longs for the days of no replay. Touchbacks on most kickoffs -remember how exciting a kickoff return for a TD was? Or a big kickoff return to set-up a score? They happen after the other team scores, or at the beginning of the game or the half. Now 90% of kickoffs are touchbacks. Illegal contact, defensive holding, pass interference - seems to be called 5-10 times a game. After every good play by a defensive back, you have to hold your breath for a few seconds to see if that yellow flag comes out. Defenseless Receivers, leading with the crown of your helmet, and roughing the passer. I grew up with LT and Ronnie Lott. How would these guys fare in today's NFL? The first two terms were not even in the NFL until a few years ago, and the roughing the passer penalty very rarely happened. I wonder how much Jim Burt would have been fined for hitting Montana in that playoff game? It was a legitimate hit back then, now it is a fine and/or suspension. I understand that player safety has taken on a whole new light. But because of this, I think that I am starting to like baseball more. I just hope that they don't one day replay everything like the NFL before making a judgement call.

Thank you Caepernick,Owen Daniels, Demaryius Thomas, Desean Jackson, and Greg Zuerlein!

Has this happened to anyone else?

I agree and I was trying to make that point throughout this thread. Last year when Eli only had 1 ring and was coming off a 25 INT season, I can see why people doubted (although he did have 31 TDs and 4000 yards). If you do not think he is Elite and belongs right up there with Rivers and Roethlisberger, then I think you are in denial or an Eli hater. I think you also should put this class with the 1983 class. They have 4 rings (and counting) plus 5 super bowl appearances and they still have about 7 years each to play.

Yes Trent Dilfer did win one Super Bowl. He won one, with arguably one of the best defenses we've seen in a long time. The Giants Defense this year was ranked what, 29th in the league? Dilfer also never trhrew for more than 3000 yards in a season. Eli has thrown for 3000 yards every year he has been a starter, and 4000 yards the last three, narrowly missing 5000 yards this year. Dilfer also had more career INTs than TDs. Eli also averages 26 TDs a year and Dilfer never threw more than 21 TD passes, which he did only twice in a season. To compare the two is assinine. Eli also has the most road playoff wins (5) of any QB, he has beat Favre and Rodgers at Green Bay in the playoffs, and Tom Brady twice. He also broke a record with 15 4th quarter TD passes and has numerous 4th quarter comebacks this year, and in years prior. He also has two SB MVPs. Oh and the Giants rushing game was last in the league this year, so saying they had a vaunted defense and rushing game which got them the championship is just plain stupid.

I am sorry that I didn't write a complete sentence on a fantasy football website. Wow, grammar police are everywhere. Nobody thought of him as a bust before this year, I mean he did have 1 ring before the year started, 2 consecutive 4000 yard seasons, and 31 TDs last year. He also never had a losing season as a starter. So how is that a bust? Did Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith have that under their belt?

True that. I actually am not an Eagle hater, and some fans are actually good fans. I just hate some of their fans, especially after they diss on Eli for no apparent reason (not saying you did, that was your opinion before this year and most non Giants fans would have agreed). But those cocky Eagle fans who were so dissing on Eli when the Giants were bad in 2004 and saying he was a bust with no merit. Part of me actually does want to see an Eagle or Jet fan experience a Super Bowl win, because we have many in the area that I am friends with. This is turning into a love fest. Coughlin is rubbing off on me!

1. Most Giants fans would have, we see every game and see the coolness under any circumstance. I'll admit, there were some bad ones, but as he matures, they are very few and very far between. 2. I think he'll get one more, and have 3 by the time he's about 34. I put the over / under at 3, meaning I'd much rather have the over than "sweat" out 4+ rings if I had the under. 3. I am, I am going to the parade. I was just pissed bcuz I used to work in Philly and remember all the Eagle fans saying Eli is a bust, the trade was stupid, etc. But I knew it wasn't. He took a crappy team like Ole Miss and made them competitive, they had nobody but him. He beat Florida in his senior year and won the cotton bowl.

What's Eli have to do, win 5 rings? He is 8-3 in the playoffs, 5 road playoff wins and 2 rings and two SB MVPs. Numerous 4th quarter comebacks that many people are saying they would rather have ELi over any other QB right now. Plaxico and Steve Smith also became stars under Eli. Nicks and Cruz are becoming stars under Eli. The Eli haters are in denial or so totally warped it is ridiculous.

Then you are in denial or retarded. 2 rings, 2 SB MVPs, most career road playoff wins, 8-3 in the playoffs, never had a losing season, 15 4th quater TD passes to break a record held by his brother and Johnny U.

Yes, we have something in common with all those teams that you mentioned. We are world Champions!!

That's two for Eli and he is only 31 years old. So FOCK YOU and your Eli bashing, no Super Bowl Trophy, pathetic Eagle fan base. Eli is 8-3 in the playoffs, won 5 road playoff games, has two Super Bowl Wins and two Super Bowl MVPs. I'll ask the question again to the masses, would you rather have Rivers or Eli?

It was really about the weather. Saw the report of winds gusting over 40 mph with sustained winds of 25-35 mph and I panicked. Meanwhile, Smith was playing in a dome against a porous Rams Def.

But I thought they would want to play in a dome, rather than potentially bad weather in NY. Anyway, it did cost me $100 as I would have had the high week for the year if I started Stafford. Oh well, lesson learned and I will never do it again. I mean I had Stafford in the line-up all week, then changed it on Sunday right before game time when I saw the weather conditions in Green Bay.