Fumbleweed 426 Posted June 5, 2017 White Wonder: 1.01- RB Le'Veon Bell, Pit. 2.12- WR Doug Baldwin, Sea. 3.01- WR Brandin Cooks, NE4.12- RB Joe Mixon, Cin. 5.01- TE Jordan Reed, Was. 6.12- RB Doug Martin, TB7.01- WR Stefon Diggs, Min. 8.12- WR Willie Snead, NO9.01- TE Martellus Bennett, GB10.12- QB Carson Palmer, Ari.11.01- QB Tyrod Taylor, Buf. 12.12- WR John Brown, Ari. 13.01- RB Theo Riddick, Det. 14.12- RB James Conner, Pit. 15.01- K Stephen Gostkowski, NE 16.12- D/ST, New York Giants RicemanX/Mike FFToday: 1.02- RB David Johnson, Ari. 2.11- TE Rob Gronkowski, NE3.02- WR Demaryius Thomas, Den. 4.11- RB Mark Ingram, NO5.02- WR Martavis Bryant, Pit. 6.11- WR Julian Edelman, NE7.02- RB Paul Perkins, NYG8.11- QB Philip Rivers, LAC9.02- RB Rob Kelley, Was. 10.11- QB Ryan Tannehill, Mia.11.02- WR Cameron Meredith, Chi. 12.11- WR Jeremy Maclin, Bal. 13.02- TE Jason Witten, Dal. 14.11- RB Marlon Mack, Ind. 15.02- D/ST, Kansas City Chiefs 16.11- K Cairo Santos, KC Remote Controller: 1.03- RB Ezekiel Elliott, Dal. 2.10- QB Tom Brady, NE 3.03- WR Davante Adams, GB 4.10- WR Michael Crabtree, Oak. 5.03- RB Eddie Lacy, Sea. 6.10- WR Donte Moncrief, Ind. 7.03- RB Frank Gore, Ind. 8.10- QB Dak Prescott, Dal. 9.03- TE Kyle Rudolph, Min. 10.10- WR Tyrell Williams, SD11.03- TE Eric Ebron, Det. 12.10- WR Marvin Jones, Det. 13.03- RB Jacquizz Rodgers, TB 14.10- RB C.J. Procise, Sea. 15.03- D/ST, Arizona Cardinals 16.10- K Caleb Sturgis, Phi. ICEMAN: 1.04- WR Antonio Brown, Pit. 2.09- RB DeMarco Murray, Ten. 3.04- RB Leonard Fournette, Jax. 4.09- RB Christian McCaffrey, Car. 5.04- QB Matt Ryan, Atl. 6.09- TE Delanie Walker, Ten. 7.04- WR Jamison Crowder, Was. 8.09- WR Corey Davis, Ten. 9.04- WR Eric Decker, NYJ10.09- RB Jeremy Hill, Cin.11.04- WR Rishard Matthews, Ten. 12.09- TE Cameron Brate, TB 13.04- QB Joe Flacco, Bal. 14.09- RB Chris Ivory, Jax. 15.04- K Matt Bryant, Atl. 16.09- D/ST, Miami Dolphins Shovelheadt: 1.05- WR Julio Jones, Atl. 2.08- QB Aaron Rodgers, GB3.05- RB Lamar Miller, Hou. 4.08- RB Dalvin Cook, Min. 5.05- WR Larry Fitzgerald, Ari. 6.08- WR Randall Cobb, GB 7.05- RB Ameer Abdullah, Det. 8.08- QB Andy Dalton, Cin. 9.05- RB LeGarrette Blount, Phi.10.08- TE Jared Cook, Oak. 11.05- WR Cole Beasley, Dal. 12.08- TE David Njoku, Cle. 13.05- RB Giovani Bernard, Cin. 14.08- WR Ted Ginn, Jr., NO 15.05- D/ST, Cincinnati Bengals 16.08- K Graham Gano, Car. Robb: 1.06- WR Odell Beckham, Jr., NYG2.07- WR DeAndre Hopkins, Hou. 3.06- RB Todd Gurley, LAR4.07- RB Carlos Hyde, SF 5.06- WR Kelvin Benjamin, Car. 6.07- QB Jameis Winston, TB 7.06- RB Bilal Powell, NYJ8.07- QB Marcus Mariota, Ten. 9.06- WR Quincy Enunwa, NYJ10.07- TE Jack Doyle, Ind. 11.06- WR Robert Woods, LAR 12.07- RB Jamaal Williams, GB 13.06- D/ST, Denver Broncos 14.07- RB Jonathan Williams, Buf. 15.06- TE Evan Engram, NYG 16.07- K Brandon McManus, Den. Matt's Eagles: 1.07- WR Mike Evans, TB2.06- RB Jay Ajayi, Mia. 3.07- WR Alshon Jeffery, Phi. 4.06- WR Keenan Allen, LAC 5.07- RB Ty Montgomery, GB 6.06- TE Zach Ertz, Phi. 7.07- QB Russell Wilson, Sea. 8.06- RB Samaje Perine, Was. 9.07- WR Breshad Perriman, Bal. 10.06- RB Joe Williams, SF 11.07- WR Kevin White, Chi. 12.06- TE Austin Hooper, Atl. 13.07- WR Marqise Lee, Jax. 14.06- QB DeShaun Watson, Hou. 15.07- D/ST, Houston Texans 16.06- K Mason Crosby, GB Fumbleweed: 1.08- RB LeSean McCoy, Buf. 2.05- WR Dez Bryant, Dal. 3.08- QB Drew Brees, NO 4.05- WR Sammy Watkins, Buf. 5.08- TE Greg Olsen, Car. 6.05- WR Emmanuel Sanders, Den. 7.08- QB Ben Roethlisberger, Pit. 8.05- WR DeVante Parker, Mia. 9.08- RB Matt Forte, NYJ10.05- RB Kenneth Dixon, Bal. 11.08- RB Danny Woodhead, Bal. 12.05- WR Adam Thielen, Min. 13.08- TE Zach Miller, Chi. 14.05- RB Duke Johnson, Cle. 15.08- K Dan Bailey, Dal. 16.05- D/ST, Carolina Panthers Vikings4Ever: 1.09- RB Melvin Gordon, LAC2.04- WR Jordy Nelson, GB3.09- RB Isaiah Crowell, Cle. 4.04- WR Jarvis Landry, Mia. 5.09- TE Jimmy Graham, Sea. 6.04- WR Brandon Marshall, NYG7.09- RB Derrick Henry, Ten. 8.04- QB Kirk Cousins, Was. 9.09- WR Pierre Garcon, SF10.04- QB Carson Wentz, Phi. 11.09- RB Jonathan Stewart, Car. 12.04 TE Coby Fleener, NO 13.09- WR Tyler Lockett, Sea. 14.04- RB Alvin Kamara, NO 15.09- K Wil Lutz, NO 16.04- D/ST, Philadelphia Eagles ZeroRBJoe: 1.10- WR Michael Thomas, NO2.03- WR T.Y. Hilton, Ind. 3.10- RB Marshawn Lynch, Oak. 4.03- WR Tyreek Hill, KC 5.10- WR Terrelle Pryor, Was. 6.03- RB Tevin Coleman, Atl. 7.10- RB Mike Gillislee, NE8.03- TE Hunter Henry, LAC 9.10- QB Eli Manning, NYG10.03- QB Matthew Stafford, Det. 11.10- TE Julius Thomas, Mia. 12.03- RB James White, NE 13.10- WR Kenny Britt, Cle. 14.03- D/ST, New England Patriots 15.10- K Sebastian Janikowski, Oak. 16.03- WR Will Fuller, Hou. Ray Lewis' Limo Driver: 1.11- WR A.J. Green, Cin. 2.02- RB Devonta Freeman, Atl. 3.11- WR Allen Robinson, Jax. 4.02- RB Spencer Ware, KC 5.11- RB Adrian Peterson, NO 6.02- QB Derek Carr, Oak. 7.11- WR DeSean Jackson, TB8.02- RB Latavius Murray, Min. 9.11- TE O.J. Howard, TB10.02- WR Mike Wallace, Bal. 11.11- RB Jamaal Charles, Den. 12.02- WR Sterling Shepard, NYG 13.11- K Justin Tucker, Bal. 14.02- QB Blake Bortles, Jax. 15.11- D/ST, Minnesota Vikings 16.02- WR John Ross, Cin. JScott: 1.12- WR Amari Cooper, Oak. 2.01- RB Jordan Howard, Chi.3.12- QB Andrew Luck, Ind. 4.01- TE Travis Kelce, KC 5.12- WR Golden Tate, Det. 6.01- RB C.J. Anderson, Den. 7.12- TE Tyler Eifert, Cin. 8.01- QB Cam Newton, Car. 9.12- RB Terrance West, Bal.10.01- RB Kareem Hunt, KC 11.12- WR Corey Coleman, Cle. 12.01- WR Jordan Matthews, Phi. 13.12- RB Thomas Rawls, Sea. 14.01- WR Tavon Austin, LAR 15.12- D/ST, Seattle Seahawks 16.01- K Dustin Hopkins, Was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted June 15, 2017 According to this mock, Gurley at the 12th RB off the board is still a RB1. A low end RB1, but an RB1 nonetheless. Doub Martin would be an RB3 and Crowell (13th RB off the board) would be a high end RB2. Even though Perkins is slotted in as the top RB in New york, he was the 27th RB off the board, and provided good value as a top end RB3. For WR's Hopkins (11th off the board) would still be a WR1 Keenan allen and Crabtree & Fitzgerald (#21, 22, and 24 off the board) are low end WR2's. WR3 bargains appear to be Diggs (33 overall), Desean Jackson (#35 overall) and Devante Parker (#36 overall) Snead and Decker were also was a bargain as a low end RB4 (#38 & #39 WR taken) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 16, 2017 According to this mock, Gurley at the 12th RB off the board is still a RB1. A low end RB1, but an RB1 nonetheless. Doub Martin would be an RB3 and Crowell (13th RB off the board) would be a high end RB2. Even though Perkins is slotted in as the top RB in New york, he was the 27th RB off the board, and provided good value as a top end RB3. For WR's Hopkins (11th off the board) would still be a WR1 Keenan allen and Crabtree & Fitzgerald (#21, 22, and 24 off the board) are low end WR2's. WR3 bargains appear to be Diggs (33 overall), Desean Jackson (#35 overall) and Devante Parker (#36 overall) Snead and Decker were also was a bargain as a low end RB4 (#38 & #39 WR taken) interesting thoughts. I think the issue with Perkins (and i like him) is the offensive line, all the weapons in the pass game and the lingering presence of Vereen. Perkins remains a bit of an unknown and even as an unquestioned starter, might not see a heavy workload anyway. Allen, Crabtree and Fitzgerald are all great values. Crabtree probably most of all due to not being too old or too injury prone. Hopkins likely deserves to still be a low end WR1 with Brock gone and a Clemson QB in tow. Hopkins is still extremely talented and you kind of have to look at last years numbers and say that is a worst case scenario. Primed for a bounce back year, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted June 16, 2017 interesting thoughts. I think the issue with Perkins (and i like him) is the offensive line, all the weapons in the pass game and the lingering presence of Vereen. Perkins remains a bit of an unknown and even as an unquestioned starter, might not see a heavy workload anyway. Allen, Crabtree and Fitzgerald are all great values. Crabtree probably most of all due to not being too old or too injury prone. Hopkins likely deserves to still be a low end WR1 with Brock gone and a Clemson QB in tow. Hopkins is still extremely talented and you kind of have to look at last years numbers and say that is a worst case scenario. Primed for a bounce back year, IMO. I agree with most everything you said. but I have to think any RB who is the clearcut starter (even on a crappy team) should be at least an RB2. either way, the guy who got him got a great deal and good for him. There is usually a couple of good players who slip through the cracks in almost every draft and he may be one of those. Not really a high profile guy and wont catch a lot of headlines. I figure hes good for 60-80 all purpose yards a game and maybe a TD. There is some upside there, but (like you said) its tough to say how things will shake out in New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 16, 2017 I agree with most everything you said. but I have to think any RB who is the clearcut starter (even on a crappy team) should be at least an RB2. either way, the guy who got him got a great deal and good for him. There is usually a couple of good players who slip through the cracks in almost every draft and he may be one of those. Not really a high profile guy and wont catch a lot of headlines. I figure hes good for 60-80 all purpose yards a game and maybe a TD. There is some upside there, but (like you said) its tough to say how things will shake out in New York. again I like Perkins, I own him in a dynasty. I just wish the Giants had done more to address the offensive line. Instead they beefed up the pass game and added more mouths to feed. They will still deploy a run game, of course, and perhaps the additions at WR and TE help open up running lanes but I just get this feeling the run game might be a bit of an afterthought. still I do think Perkins can/should get drafted a little higher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites